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OK, sorry. Maybe it is a valid question. But I will say that if Nokia starts playing such games *now*, it's going to be a really weird strategic move considering they just switched to GPL software.

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GPL2, not GPL3, so they can get away with "tivolizing" it, technically...

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Of course, but I meant that it would be weird for them to move towards more open and more closed at the same time.

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I am existed to see a sync suite; I just hope it is as good as Nokia’s existing sync suite.

Love the FM transmitter, and Camera with Auto focus + Flash.
I am totally sold on Maemo, just concerned about some product design features.

I hope to see a heap of the existing apps out the box like SSH, RDP, and a contact manager I can access faster then Palm, and better build quality than my n810.

I would also like to see HSDPA for all regions, not just North America or Europe.

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on this photo we can see clearly that it is not oled...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/...n900/pic08.jpg

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If it has a cell phone radio in it.. it's an inflated price. You don't have to compare it to the older Nokia devices.. simply look at ANY equivalent hardware at any point in time with and without a cellular radio (ie iPhone vs iTouch, Nokia tablets (n8x0) vs similar smartphones, Palm Tungsten T5/TX versus Palm Treo's). It seems as if you could easily shave off $300 or more from almost any device by simply not designing a cellular radio into it.

So yes.. it's inflated.

Good point. :) It COULD get worse.

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Looks a bit thick I think. That would be my major gripe.

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No, seriously, side-speakers means less volume but more stereo separation (at least indoors, especially near furniture/walls) compared to face-speakers. Also, the top slide with the screen is thinner so you'd have weaker speakers there anyway even if you solved the layout problem.

PS. As for stylus - Eldar has a prototype from apparently months ago. For all we know, that thingy in the corner might be just a plastic placeholder and stylii will be there only for production devices.

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The only thing I don't like is the statusbar. Kinda huge design fail, icons are too disordered. I'd rather do something like this: http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/0908/bc/d9042aff49d6.png

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hmm, about that statusbar/tray, will it grow rightwards when more icons are put into it, removing the window title in the process?

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Actually, comparing the iPhone 8GB with the iPod Touch 8GB, it's currently 360 euros vs. 230 euros. That's a 130 euro markup for a much more capable device. I really don't think it's that bad.

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Why do you need a window title? Look at Google Chrome... :D

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http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/n...lkix/pic11.jpg

What is the toggle switch?

And the side speakers work fine for me except in loud enviornments where you need to stick the speaker up to your ear to hear. Cant watch a video and have speaker at your ear ... not that you can do that with front spekers either.

Over all, I like it. But really it doesnt look like its all that different(software wise) from Diablo. Lots of UI changes, but the main stuff is the same. I guess we knew that already but I was hoping for some bling bling I guess.

I'll def buy the tablet version if/when it comes out.

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Wish they would make a cheaper version with no keyboard.

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toggle switch is the device lock slider.

This is my dream device, once I have this I won't upgrade for at least a year or two. Maemo, cellphone, hardware which can actually browse the web well, open source, 5mp camera, FM transmitter hardware keyboard and a smaller size to fit in my pocket. All of this was almost there with the N810 my favorite device of all time and now it is a few months away :D

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Ah!! That makes since. Forgot about that one. I have problems with that thing on my n810 sometimes ..... This one looks a little more robust (GOD I hate that word!!).

/rant
"You need to make your process more .. robust!" Ah, thanks boss, very helpful.... Goes along with "It is what it is...". Really? No f'ing way?!! What a waste of breath that is. Falls under the category of "Statments that make me want to slap people".

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You would give up louder, directed audio for softer separation? The N800's speakers aren't exactly deep 6x9's either.. but they're plenty loud. The stereo separation was pretty darn good, too. I was hoping for that to come back. You know.. keep what works well and improve, bring back what worked in the N800's--not bring back what a lot of people didn't like in the N810's.

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but a lot of people like more the n810? what now?

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Just curious, what kind of "bling bling" were you hoping for? Nice UI is where the "bling" usually is, but we've known for almost a year now that this baby's got a really big engine under the hood (Cortex A8) and a fantastic, open source OS (Debian-based Linux) under the UI.

That's all the "bling" I want. But I'm curious about what is missing for you?

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post #100

xD

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I'm looking for that "wholly crap " moment. I guess I'm just too up to date. If i were out of the loop I would probably be really impressed. Maybe a good video of it doing something slick will spur me more. I think someone needs to put out a nicer theme and it will look leaps and bounds better. This of course could be happening with the real launch. Who knows.

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/offtopic

100+ posts in 3 hours .... thats gotta be some sort of record ...

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I was not happy with volume levels for N800 or N810, especially the latter. I could rarely make out the GPS verbal instructions most of the time over road noise alone. I was informed that the N800 was capable of higher volume but it had been intentionally limited. Never got a good answer as to why though.

I just hope the next device is capable of being louder-- let ME decide if it's too loud and turn the volume down myself.

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Elaborate? This aint no iPhone, there's an XTerm available out of the box. . . .

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Heh... I doubt it. ;)

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Exactly!

I had the same feeling when the n810 came out. I just thought it was just an improved n800 which i think was not worth the extra money. But after i bought it i realized how it was better than the n800 considering the keypad, gps and screen readability in sunlight. When compared to that the rover is a huge imporvement to the n810 and it has been a long while since the last update....

Believe me the "feeling that i will stick to my old tablets" will vanish very soon once you see the videos and reviews from forum members.

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I have two problems with your posting, aside from the grammatical ambiguity:

1) I'm curious to know where you obtained that analysis. I would like to know satisfaction rates from 770 to N800 to N810 among purchasers and people who considered purchasing. I'm genuinely curious to see if it's gone up or down along the way. Has Nokia published this information anywhere?

2) I'm referring to the many people who criticized that specific aspect of the N810 (the side-speakers) when they began to buy them up and posted their critique. As I recall, there seemed to be a general opinion that the N800 had the much better audio arrangement.

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According to prior leaked specs, yes, it

is thicker: 59.7 x 111 x 18.2mm

-- N810 was 72 × 128 × 14 mm

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Well if the n800's speakers were better.... that advantage would be very minor compared to the real estate they would have increased on both sides of the device. A lot of people would prefer to have extended screen rather than front facing speakers.....

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What about that 'feeling that I will consider an Android device or a Pandora or anyone who actually improves on the reasons I bought a tablet instead of a smart phone'?

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Well that is your decision.... but Pandora... really? :rolleyes:

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All that black unused space on either side of the displaying screen is... still screen?

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quick guess, french regulations. I bumped into something similar when looking into minidisc players, and people found that the ones sold in europe have the volume limited vs the asian and US versions, because of some french regulation.

So to be quick and cheap, nokia may well have just limited it to that level across the board...

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looks like speaker and mic. At least one side seems to have a small hole in it like one find on a phone...

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Well i dont really know what that space was for... but my guess would be to put in all the phone stuff. Anyway if they wanted to increase the size of the device, i would think screen size would be the first and front spacing speakers will never figure in anyone's list except yours.....

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Maybe it's time Nokia ignored countries who make it hard on everyone else... :D

Hey, one way to effect change!

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"That's your decision?" is stating an obvious point. It doesn't really mean anything in a conversation. :) "Hopping on the N900... that's your decision." See? heh But Pandora, yeah--I think at this point, it still looks more attractive to me. I still prefer the clamshell as a more efficient way to hold all the hardware, I prefer two FULL SIZED SD card slots and I prefer the clamshell design to protect the screen, too. PLUS.. it's not a goofy slide-out keyboard. To that end, the keyboard is laid out VASTLY better. As to whether it'll turn out to be vaporware is another thing.. but I do prefer the overall product over this cell-phone device Nokia wants tablet people to buy.

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Yup... I'm thinkin' the Digia @Web browser we played with awhile back may have given us a clue or two. :)

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A 56% markup isn't too bad. But in the States, you're looking at 162% markup.

That is, an 8GB iPod Touch is $229. An un-subsidized, no-contract-required iPhone 3G 8GB is around $599 (at least according to the news stories, I've yet to see one available at that price.)

Now, carrier subsidized, the phone is $99. But it requires a 2-year, $30/month data plan. As I spend my day at a computer, and have one readily available at home, I can think of better things to do with that $720.

I'm just sayin' - not everyone needs or wants a data plan.