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Prices are by no means equal even throughout Europe, let alone the US. I got my N810 from US, just because it was say 130 euros cheaper than it was in Germany, and some 200 euros cheaper than it was in Serbia. You can see this even now, with ordinary Nokia phones:
For example Nokia E71 costs 340€ in Germany, but only 310$ in the US?!
I could never understand that... :(

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oh ... :(

so does that mean you cannot use the N900 as a BT-modem for your old N810?

or that you cannot tether it to another BT enabled phone if you decide to use it without a SIM card?

or both?

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Are you sure?
DUN has its own component in the Connectivity product in bugzilla.
And bluez has "--enable-pand" (and --enable-dund) in the build options, and AFAIK in Diablo it doesn't.

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Connectivity
Bluetooth: 2.1 (A2DP / AVRCP / DUN / HFP / HSP / OPP)

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Of course I can't be 100% sure until I see it myself. But DUN or PAN is not mentioned in specs.

From http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N900
Maemo4 had DUN support so that's why it's in bugzilla. Bluez has the support, that's not the question. But if it's enabled AND if there's a GUI to use it, that's the question.

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Where did you get that?

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I didn't remember it was such a high price, but it seems you're right. I got the price from the release announcement, which said 449 euros. It doesn't change the general increasing tendency, though.

As for the N900, I don't believe the French price will be under the German one. I bet for 649 euros, as mentionned on most French sites.

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Actually I got that from here
http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/nokia/n900.html

But the Nokia site shows
http://europe.nokia.com/find-product...s#hardware-con

# Bluetooth version 2.1
# Bluetooth profiles: HFP, HSP, A2DP, AVRCP, FTP, OPP

Thats not good at all. :(

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...and I'm sure some of the old bugs are still around, too!

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Why is crap, why is nice? I find the integrated good, but the addon was buggy. And I don't like.

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The integrated app crap:

txt only display is poor, not much graphic delineation in message list view or message view

deleting message, you must wait for it to delete on server before doing anything else with an un-dismissable dialog and when deleting a message over edge it can take a while

the retrieval and auto retrieval settings don't really work and get 'lost'

Your email gets intermingled with your sms and not in a good kind of contact centric way like some clients do now

I am sure there are some other things that led me to think it is crap, but I have not used it in quite a while

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I have a gripe and I wonder if anyone else noticed this.. In one of the marketing video's the user had Google Talk open and to call the person they had to get out of google talk and go to the desktop and clicked a contact widget. I think you should be able to just click on the person's picture in Google Talk and it should bring up there contact info. Wouldn't that make more sense?

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I have a vague memory of reading a TI spec on the omap3 chip used in BeagleBoard, iirc the CPU expected lifetime is significantly reduced already at 600MHz compared to 500MHz. I dont remember exactly, but it could've been factor of 10 difference... Still long enough to last us until the next generation of devices, though :)

Speculating, At 800-900 I imagine the expected lifetime could be too short for nokia to be comfortable a significant amount wouldn't fail within the standard 2 year warranty.

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True, but you see more messages in list. That is a sacrifice to be made. The font used is hegemonic with the rest of the device; in contrast to Nokia Messaging. Nokia Messaging, like Modest, shows more details of the messages at the expense of number of messages shown.

Actually I love how its easy to browse through e-mail and SMS and such on E71, and integrate both in your contacts, giving you choice. Entirely different interfaces for applications on same device which do roughly the same is not a good thing.

In contrast, Nokia Messaging would never retrieve new e-mail. First it gotten my last 9 e-mail. But after that it went poof. I could press Sync a thousand times. Nothing happened. While I had new e-mail all the time. But its OK, I didn't like the interface too much, because it was not fast enough to use like previous default SMS/e-mail interface. (EPOC I think it called.)

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My gripe, looking at the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE&NR=1 , since the screen is resistive, I'll have to be browsing with my finger nail rather than my finger tip.

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Why?? The N810 is resistive and I have very short nails and it works fine....:D Just use your finger tips;)

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Yes I noticed that and thought that strange. It would be even worse if the contact wasn't directly on your desktop and you had to search for them through the contacts list. Hopefully there will be a shortcut in the Conversations app to link directly to the contact.

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Also, for text selection. Less error-prone than the double-tap-to-select feature.

Edit: Actually I read that wrong. This is not quite correct, the cursor mode is simply for interacting with a website (instead of panning).

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You know what really grinds my gears??? :D

NO D-PAD!!!!!!!!!!

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The arrow buttons are certainly an improvement over the crap they put on the N810. It still makes me sad when I look at the D-Pad on my N800, and then look at the one on my N810.

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The french store have it for 599 Euros.

Of course out of stock :)

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Whoa, an N-series device without DUN? Is this a first? Without checking, it seems very rare. Quite unlike Nokia to cripple a feature like this. What's the story here?
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I have had my N810 for quite a while now. Does anyone know if there is a newer version coming out that I can spend my money on?

I really like the Internet Tablet device. I can take it with me when I want, I can leave it home when I don't need it, I can listen to music, browse the web, read RSS, read a book while at home/on a train/at soccer practice.

Did I say I can leave it home when I don't need it or want to protect it from damage? But still take my small cell phone with me all the time :)

This N900 device is not a replacement to the N810. I hope there will be one someday...

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I felt the vibe that there was something clever / sarcastic / (witty?) implied there, I just can't put my finger on it.... maybe edit it, underlining the clever part... or footnotes, perhaps...

DId I say footnotes? Or maybe highlight the (funny?) part in red :)

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iirc, nokia feature phones did that years ago...

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I was promised a magnifying glass attachment that doubled as a hard case!!!! ;)

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ala GameBoy?
http://www.retro-gameshop.nl/gameboy...oyspeakers.jpg

Although I don't remember the speakers being there when I had one....

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Holy crap!!! I used to have that thing!! LOL

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With the speakers?

I had the magnifying light thing, but that seems like a juiced-up version....

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There were lots of different versions by different third-party suppliers. There was no official Nintendo version.

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Now for 649€ in the French store...

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Well it's better than the UK store :-(

http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/sea...x?keyword=n900

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When I looked, I saw a double-click-to-focus that focused on the wrong thing. I imagine it must be a trick of the filming, because choosing the right part of the DOM model of the page is reasonably well researched. For instance, the YARIP extension to FireFox understands how to do it...

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My one gripe: it's not already in my hands!

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Nice that there was some third party support.. and replacement parts.. and upgrades.. and, man---I weep about the way Nokia has handled the Tablets sometimes.

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600 EUR in NL. Should have a standard QWERTY keyboard.

(Still CC only)

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Third party accessories appear when a product is big enough to warrant them. Most Nintendo gaming systems have achieved that level of success. Nokia phones regularly achieve that level of success. The tablets saw screen protectors, automotive mounts, and cases, but never grew large enough to spark an explosion of accessories.

You can fault Nokia for not advertising the tablets, though that appears to have been by deliberate design, but it's not as though they actively prevented other companies from producing accessories.

As for NOA's repair service during the era of the original Game Boy, I wasn't overly impressed. When our NES died, we had to drive two hours the nearest authorized repair drop-off point--a kiosk in a mall--and return a few weeks later when the repair was finished. My last name and old address are still scrawled in black marker on the bottom of both controllers and the console itself, as the kiosk employee warned us that Nintendo often lost units otherwise.

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The Fremantle SDK looks like crap and feels like crap. I wonder how Nokia wants to attract lots of developers with such an ugly, partially inverse-colored, and sluggish SDK.

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Meanwhile, if I want to get my tablet fixed, I have to mail it somewhere else in the world and be without it for well over a month and HOPE that someone will mail it back to me.

I'd rather at LEAST have a kiosk in a mall with a receipt showing that I'd dropped it off in case I never saw it again. :P

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or have it returned unfixed because your in the wrong part of the world vs where it was supposed to be sold...