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as was to be suspected

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Sorry guys i thought i posted the link ( stayed up to late and then fell asleep ) this site is backed by a quite a few other notable sites one namely Cnet which i trust but thats up to you to decide...


site: http://www.celluloco.com/nokia-n900-...b-pr-2419.html

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Well, it says "In Stock" too, which I highly doubt.

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It also says "Coming Soon! ETA: October 21, 2009"

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It may be more complicated than that. My roommate and I have TMO and I cannot use my E90 SIM in her G1. We actually have different data plans (even though the costs are the same) for the two phones. They send different initialization strings to the phones for Internet access set-up. SIM card phones aren't supposed to be like this, but American Telcos are GREEEDY....

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Worse case I will cancel my g1 contract - authenticate her via wifi (thank God for rooted android) and buy the unlimited data plan for 25 bucks.

Yes US telcos are the devil I can agree with that whole heartedly.

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I found it at a place called Techno Tronics for 450$.. Ive tried reading up on the site and seeing how they handle things... looks ok i guess

Any other opinions?

http://www.tronicsjunkyard.com/produ...S-Version.html

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@sigep235: that looks like a scam site. It's selling everything at unrealistic price, especially the iPhone 3GS 32GB.

PS: Are you affiliated with that site? How did you find it in the first place?

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http://forums.crackberry.com/f145/we...62/index2.html

If you have $450 to throw away, seems like a good a place as any to do it. However, if you actually want an N900, I'd shop elsewhere. Just my opinion, though.. I have no concrete information beyond what's contained in the thread I linked. However, you'll also notice they are listing the N97 for $400. Unlikely that's legit, either. Add it all together and I would personally run away as fast as I could while clutching my wallet with both hands. Again..that's just me.

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HAHA... naw im not affiliated with them.. I just want this phone really bad so I have been looking high and low for prices a bit more in my range

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I think that's just what happens. I called T-Mo before I pre-ordered a N900 to be absolutely sure what I was getting into. I was told my present Android data plan ($25 for unlimited data + 400 messages) would not work with the N900, but that all I had to do was call them back when I get it and they would do a quick re-configuration and all would be good. The change would take effect immediately with no change in the cost or service.

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Just wanted to let you know that it is up for pre-order for 649 on amazon!

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Mob...2619444&sr=1-3

No blue tooth headset but no taxes!

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which is ya boy's birthday! Anyone wanna know what I want as a gift??

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(Originally Posted by christexaport
"the RX-51 is with AWS only, and only in the US, from the looks of it. You'll have to order from NokiaUSA.com and have shipped to you. Is that what you've tried?")

Said Kenny:
"The Nokia N900 is being released in various areas of the world ("in selected markets" ) with one model only (as apples to the GSM radio frequencies.) Those frequencies are stated in the specs, and are also stated in this and several other threads here at talk.maemo.
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I'm curious. Do you ever read any of the replies here? It strikes me that for a tech journalist / blogger, there often seems to be a high level of incorrect information in your posts."

I don't think you understood my post, Kenny. It was in response to to R-R, who was having issues ordering from Canada. I was trying to explain that the only N900 model officially announced has been the TMobileUSA model with AWS 3G frequencies. (There have been no models with alternate 3G frequencies announced as of today.) It is only available officially from NokiaUSA.com. All other retailers are speculating orders based on expected wholesale costs, save a few Nokia partners privy to the financials.

R-R had been trying to order from Canada to be shipped to him there, assumably from the Canadian Nokia site, which doesn't have the N900 listed yet, I don't think. I was merely letting him know that ordering from the US site would yeild better results.

You say the N900 will be released in various markets. This is what I assume as well, but for right now, it has only been announced and listed for presale direct from Nokia in the US. Other retailers from America to Asia are taking preorders, but haven't ordered their shipments, can't tell you how many they will have in stock the first week of it hitting the streets, and are participating in what I call credit card lock in. Make the charge and hold the consumer hostage, hopefully for not long, and get a sale.

I don't believe the N900 will be released as one model. With the small audience for the AWS 3G frequencies of about 40 million, it only reaches a small portion of the US market and little else. I'm well aware of the specs, my friend, and not from reading another blogs review, but the Nokia supplied information.

Theoretically, certain Euro and Asian markets can access the 900/2100 frequencies, but without the 850/1900 frequencies, it will be very hard to appeal to many carriers' subscribers. It is almost certain that a 850/1900/2100 model will surface for the non-US markets. No one has confirmed this, but neither has anyone confirmed your single model for all speculation, either.

All that being said, I pride myself in being accurate, and have no problem retracting any incorrect information I may have distributed to anyone. I don't like being called out on the carpet, but if you notice me making an error, by all means email me, or offer links to the correct information. I'm interested in knowing what posts of incorrect information you believe you've seen.

I'm a Symbian guy, and new to Maemo, so I'm mostly learning and observing. I may inject a comment or two from the Symbian point of view, my forte, but I'm no Maemo expert, just an information gatherer. You'll find I'm a voracious reader, and I read most of the posts on this and a few other forums word for word, even when I don't understand fully. Its what I do. So I'm only human, and it isn't at all impossible that I've gathered the wrong info from time to time. Happens to all of us.

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Thing is I had a winmo phone before I got my g1 same exact sim. I switched it into the g1 without telling them it was a g1 and it worked fine. if they do something at their end then its just some BS to get the extra dollars.

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Hmmm...who knows what the real deal is then. That's what T-Mo said. Guess we'll find out the truth when the N900's start getting used.

Whatever really goes on - or not - it's not a money thing as far as my account goes. They were perfectly willing to let me keep the same deal.

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Maybe it was more like they have a several server for voicemail and what not? Like how the iPhone has visual voicemail, and if you switched the SIM card they'll switch you to a normal voicemail system or something.. who knows.

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Christexaport,
Wow, thanks for the nice reply.
I apologize.....I had no idea who I was talking to. For some reason I hadn't ever noticed your website link down in your post signature. Of course I know your site. I've subscribed to your RSS feed before.
I don't know if I have time to respond correctly (obviously, tech blog is NOT what I do) but I'll get started.
Naturally, there's been a lot of guessing going on around here lately as we all anticipate this device. Knowledgeable guys are trying to glean as much info as they can from Nokia's announcements and leaks. New guys are stumbling onto this site with confused and mis-guided questions. I'm just trying to separate the FACTS from the FUD. With this in mind, I happened to notice a couple of your posts that seemed a little different when relating to the facts as I understand them. I may very well be misreading and/or misinterpreting what you've said. Please clear me up as I address your post;
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"(Originally Posted by christexaport
"the RX-51 is with AWS only, and only in the US, from the looks of it. You'll have to order from NokiaUSA.com and have shipped to you. Is that what you've tried?")"
I didn't understand the part about AWS only, and only in the US. because the device has other 3G bands beside the AWS 1700MHz band. But I see now that you were trying to relate to the Canadian and were giving pre-release ordering info only.
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"I was trying to explain that the only N900 model officially announced has been the TMobileUSA model with AWS 3G frequencies."
There is no TMobileUSA model. There is only one model worldwide. AFAIK, it has not been branded by any carrier and from what Nokia is now saying, it doesn't look look there will be any branding in the near future either....or at least no locking down or insertion / removal of items by the carrier.
The only difference in world regional models is the keyboard language.
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"This is what I assume as well, but for right now, it has only been announced and listed for presale direct from Nokia in the US."
Many people on this forum are reporting that they have pre-ordered, from Nokia, in their respective parts of the world.
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"I don't believe the N900 will be released as one model. With the small audience for the AWS 3G frequencies of about 40 million, it only reaches a small portion of the US market and little else."
I don't get this part at all.
The N900's 3G radio uses the 900, 1700 and 2100 MHz bands.
According to this Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks :
1700mhz is only used by T-Mobile in the U.S. at the present time. Is that the 40 million you mentioned?
900 & 2100mhz are used in Australia.
2100mhz is used in Africa, Asia, Western & Eastern Europe.
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"Theoretically, certain Euro and Asian markets can access the 900/2100 frequencies,...."
Are you referring to UMTS Band I as opposed to Band IV for the 2100mhz ?
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"It is almost certain that a 850/1900/2100 model will surface for the non-US markets. "
The only non-US market who use those 3G frequencies is South America.
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"No one has confirmed this, but neither has anyone confirmed your single model for all speculation, either."

What is a single model for all speculation?
The Nokia specifications confirm one model with one set of frequencies.
On one of those video interviews from Nokia World, when questioned about the possibility of other 3G frequencies being included in future versions, the Maemo VP ( I believe it was him) said that they have released THIS model with THESE frequencies and they don't have any other plans.
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"I'm interested in knowing what posts of incorrect information you believe you've seen. "
There would be a couple that I've already replied to;

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...592#post320592
Posts #44 & 45.
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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...894#post321894
Post #39.
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Thanks again for replying.

Re: n900 preorder on Nokia USA
 

Don't know if its already posted here but N900 is now available at Amazon for pre-order at $649 (sold by Nokia).

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Mob...2647108&sr=1-4

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It looks like they measured the box instead of the actual product.

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That is normal for Amazon - important info for shipping.

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Question - why have the European sites got an ETA for shipping listed - and the US doesnt.

I hope it doesnt mean the Euro orders all get filled before ours.

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Guys i need some help with a decision.

I will definitely buy the n900 the moment it comes out. Now here is my scenario:

1. I am currently on at&t without a contract.
2. I am ready to switch to t-mobile. Now my dilemma is wether to take a contract or just take a regular voice + data plan without a contract.

Consider the first scenario: Contract for 24 months.

I can go to amazon and buy a htc touch pro 2 for 150$ and sign a 2 year contract. I have 150$ worth of gift cards for amazon. Then i can sell the touch pro 2 for about 425-450 on ebay and use that money to buy the n900 with the remainder coming from selling of both the n95-8gb and n810. In such a case the plan would be 40$ for the voice and 25$ for unlimited internet.

2. I could not sign a contract and just buy the n900 with my gift card + n810+ n95-8gb+ any additional money if needed. I can call t-mobile and tell them that i have one of thier other phones for which the internet data price is 20$/month + regular 40$ voice plan. What this gives me is 5$/month cheaper plan and the ability to not sign a contract. The only problem is that i do not know if i can call them and take that plan

This is the plan i am talking about:

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons/....mc_t=OnsiteAd

SO guys tell me what would be the best way?

Thanks

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Well sachinn, seeing as they have already said 5th gen maemo device will be out in 2010, I'd hate to be you stuck inn a two year contract if that device is on a nother carrier or whatever. In any case your equation is missing very important imformation, namely that t-mobile early termination fee is $200, but I think they prorate it down to $100 after a while, but not sure.

I think in general the contracts are a horrible idea and just stay away from them.

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Didnt TMob just get rid of the early term fee? Thought I read something recently about them upping roaming charges - but doing away with that.

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I am going with option 2, and going to bring in a not so smart phone when I sign up then pop in the sim in my n900 when I get home.:D

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I went with option 2 as well. I didn't even bring in a phone..I just told them I had a regular phone (exact words...they didn't press for a model name) and they sent me home with a sim card. They had to do some manual billing gymnastics to get the system to accept a no-contract account (I guess it doesn't come up very often), but they got it figured out and sent me on my way. Currently using the sim in my N95 until my N900 arrives.

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So do you guys have an data add on? How much do you pay per month for the data plan and are there any restrictions for data usage?

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I'm paying $20 for unlimited data and messenging per line as an add-on to the family plan. No restrictions on data usage that I'm aware of (since it's not a "smart phone" plan), though I've read that if you go over 10GB for a month they'll throttle you down for the remainder of the month.

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yup that's the data plan I have, I tether to my N800 and use it with Xchat always on, download podcasts daily, browse the internet daily, sporadically watch Utube videos, my usage is normally around 1-2GB/mo at most!

I find that even a "10GB"/mo limit for me is pretty much unlimited...

not sure how much data constatnly using SIPs would use though... might be something I'd like to do with the N900

*EDIT* I lied my usage last month was even less: "748/unlimited"
that's 748 megabytes :P

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I don't think SIP would add that much, not unless you consistenly had hour long conversations with people.

The Nokia Backstroke
 

"There is only one model worldwide. AFAIK, it has not been branded by any carrier and from what Nokia is now saying, it doesn't look look there will be any branding in the near future either....or at least no locking down or insertion / removal of items by the carrier." kenny
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EDIT: Carrier Possibilities Unknown;
Please allow me to update that carrier status because now, TODAY, a Nokia exec did a flip-flop about what another exec had said yesterday about carrier branding, meddling, and future co-operation!!!
The link is on the home page.
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Is this Nokia's cat & mouse with the cell phone companies? It's a gutsy stance, but I'm really glad that Nokia has the power to demand the best arrangement possible for any kind of carrier involvement....no matter what the cost!

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Hi all, Sorry about my English, I'm Spanish.
I can get a free n900 USA, but I don't know if it come in all Maemo factory languages, that is, if the phone let me put it in Spanish.
Or if I can somehow install the Spanish version of the software on the phone.
Anyone help me?
Thanks a lot!

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What do you mean a free n900?

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I mean a factory sealed n900 at nokia store. Not via a company like ATT etc..
A friend of mine is going to NY in november...the phone is more cheaper in USA that in europe, and I want he buy a unit for me for Spain use..

Re: n900 preorder on Nokia USA
 

So it's free as in "libre", not free as in "gratis". You mean unlocked.

The device will most probably work, but beware that it won't be repaired by nokia in Spain under warranty, so you'll either have to send it back to the usa or pay for any repair.

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Has anyone heard about their pre-order?

I hope their not delayed http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=18

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I hope thats not the case, Delays etc less than one month before the phone ships do not fill me with confidence.

EDIT: Just called Nokia USA and they still have the ship date in October.

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http://thenokiablog.com/2009/09/14/n...eptember-27th/

The Nokia Blog is reporting that it will be available to retailers on September 27th. Nice!

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*deep breath*

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Awesome