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mperes 2009-11-05 13:46

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
I'm a Interaction Designer at OpenBossa/INdT - Manaus. In the last three year I've contributed to the Interaction Design, Graphic Design and Rapid Prototyping of many projects for Internet Tablets and Mobile Phones, like Canola 1, Canola 2, Carman and Home Control Center. I've also contributed to some community projects like GPS Camera and E-Coach and helped to forge the new maemo.org visual identity.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/mperes/

Sign me up on the UXers Team :)

b0unc3 2009-11-05 18:10

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
HI, I'm interested too,

http://maemo.org/profile/view/b0unc3/


I'm not an UX coders , but I would like to know more and I think this is the right chance.
I'm interested in UI design and usability, but at the moment, I have done nothing relevant. I've followed some extra-course at University focused on this topic.
Of course, I can cede my place to another UX hackers :)


Daniele.

mikemorrison 2009-11-05 21:25

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
I am also interested!

My maemo profile:

http://maemo.org/profile/view/mike_morrison/

And two of the projects that I'm working on:
I've ported gtktide to Maemo 5 but I have a few more tweeks to make before submitting it to extras. I haven't ported quiver yet although it builds 'as-is' in scratchbox. It will require some work before it looks nice in maemo 5. I think this hackfest would be a great place to get ideas on enhancing the user experience in both of these programs.

quiver could also be used as one of the example for a program "needing workin in usability" or "needing work in graphics".

zaheerm 2009-11-05 22:43

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Concept: Simple Video Editor

Lets you cut, merge and title videos taken say with your phone's camera and title them ready to keep, share with friends, facebook, flickr etc.

Concept: Simple Video Slideshow creator

Lets you select photos and some audio and creates a slideshow video ready to share.

qgil 2009-11-06 07:26

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
zaheerm, good that I happen to know you are http://zaheer.merali.org/ = one of the GStreamer rock stars around. The simple video editor sounds like a good idea for concepting but... do you mean really starting from scratch? What do you think about getting Bilboed in the loop (another GStreamer Maemo lover) and work to bring PiTiVi to Maemo 5? http://www.pitivi.org/ Or something along those lines not to start from scratch.

Video editor is something currently missing and the N900 is capable of capturing great video shots, so the idea makes total sense and we are willing to support it.

lcuk, I was wondering if the best favour the Long Weekend could do to liqbase was on concepting, since I believe this is still the biggest weakness in that project. Once the concept is clear I'm sure you will have or find the hands to make it more usable and beautiful.

Also, did someone think of Mauku as a good candidate for the Graphics day?

lcuk 2009-11-06 08:14

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
quim,

the concept is easiest for me to talk about, hard to write down

the elevator pitch comes down to:

liqbase is an ideas playground.
i want a wall mounted computer to replace my pinboard and use small human oriented apps with sketch based input.
i want it to talk to my handhelds and sync so when tracy makes a note that shes working it will be updated on mine.
i want it to be usable by computerphobes and kids and the elderly (before you dismiss yourself, think of you in 50 years, I am..!) - it should be ubiquitous and intuitive computing.

my biggest lacking skill is presentation :$

qgil 2009-11-06 08:54

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
It's out of scope to start another thread about the core purpose of liqbase here, but the purpose of the hackfest is precisely that others tell you how to improve the concept/usability/graphics of your project.

After all this time and all this fuzz liqbase still is far from having delivered a product, even if it contains all the elements to become a successful product. Probably a core problem is the lack of a crispy concept, and I'm not the first one telling you this (neither for the first time). :)

So I would say that if you want to keep having your own "liqbase framework" approach in the lines described above, fair enough. If instead you are welcoming external ideas to get that sketch based application organizing your stuff neatly in a visual calendar, then your project is a good candidate for Friday.

ragnar 2009-11-06 08:54

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Lcuk, I would personally love one or two clear and easy to understand and to use tasks than a wonderful playground of everything possible in the world. ;)

Your stuff rocks, but in order for a lot of people to start using it, having one or two clear use cases from the very start to the very end (including features where you could easily export the stuff out of liqbase and publish/send it to someone else), I think that would be really cool.

Edit: Sorry for thread hijacking, this discussion should probably continue in some other thread.

qgil 2009-11-06 09:01

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
This one comes to mind: A plea to lcuk.

Let's go back to topic.

zaheerm 2009-11-06 09:31

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 367041)
zaheerm, good that I happen to know you are http://zaheer.merali.org/ = one of the GStreamer rock stars around. The simple video editor sounds like a good idea for concepting but... do you mean really starting from scratch? What do you think about getting Bilboed in the loop (another GStreamer Maemo lover) and work to bring PiTiVi to Maemo 5? http://www.pitivi.org/ Or something along those lines not to start from scratch.

Video editor is something currently missing and the N900 is capable of capturing great video shots, so the idea makes total sense and we are willing to support it.

Porting PiTiVi would work, but the UI would need to be tailored for the N900. PiTiVi (and gnonlin/gstreamer) has a lot of guts needed for a video editor behind the scenes so using it and a UI designed for the N900 with the simple use cases that one could and want to do on that form factor with the hardware it has would make a lot of sense.

Bringing Edward in would also be great, he only lives in central Barcelona :)

thp 2009-11-06 11:56

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 365468)
GPodder in Graphics. With a bit of pimp this app would earn many more users, I believe.

I'd be happy to have gPodder get some support from graphics wizards at the hackfest :)

qgil 2009-11-06 12:12

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
GPodder in! http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelon...Way_of_working

Thomas, start planning to join us in Barcelona. Instruction for you and the rest of invited participants will come hopefully on Monday-Tuesday.

We will decide on the rest of slots, aiming to confirm a project per day.

Something we are missing is more local developers. Not necessary to fill the slots for featured projects but at least to get involved in the hackfest. Alright, the PiTiVi lead developer is based in Barcelona. Who else?

yerga, actually your WordPy gets plenty of good feedback but would benefit from some UX love, isn't it? You also have a myriad of additional projects and I don't know what is currently your primary one.

Then jsmanrique had Elisator and other (Python?) ports. Not apps for the mainstream but still Elisator was something quite unique that would benefit a lot now that there is a good camera to take pictures of milk samples.

Who else, who else...? Who else in Spain has potentially cool stuff for Extras?

bilboed 2009-11-06 12:18

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 367041)
zaheerm, good that I happen to know you are http://zaheer.merali.org/ = one of the GStreamer rock stars around. The simple video editor sounds like a good idea for concepting but... do you mean really starting from scratch? What do you think about getting Bilboed in the loop (another GStreamer Maemo lover) and work to bring PiTiVi to Maemo 5? http://www.pitivi.org/ Or something along those lines not to start from scratch.

Video editor is something currently missing and the N900 is capable of capturing great video shots, so the idea makes total sense and we are willing to support it.

I would most definitely like to come to provide input and feedback on what's needed to create a video editor on maemo. I'm in the process of writing code in GStreamer to make that even easier.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/bilboed/

yerga 2009-11-06 12:48

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 367196)
yerga, actually your WordPy gets plenty of good feedback but would benefit from some UX love, isn't it? You also have a myriad of additional projects and I don't know what is currently your primary one.


Yeah, I'd love to go, it's a perfect date (bank holiday here) but my main problem is that I have serious difficulties with Shakespeare's language in real life, so I don't know how productive would be the session.

qgil 2009-11-06 13:07

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Please come. Every time you find a new excuse. :P

VDVsx 2009-11-06 14:10

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 367222)
Yeah, I'd love to go, it's a perfect date (bank holiday here) but my main problem is that I have serious difficulties with Shakespeare's language in real life, so I don't know how productive would be the session.

That's not a valid excuse ;)

If I attend, I promise that you'll not be the one only speaking bad English :p. I can also speak Portuñol if that helps :D .

yerga 2009-11-06 14:59

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
I know it's a lame excuse, but it's the most important!
I promise to practice during this month as much as I can but YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WARNED :p
How last option I'll bring a pocket dictionary with me ;)


Proposal: Let's to have some UX love for MaStory (formerly WordPy) then. It would be ideal that ARJWright would be there too because sure he has many things to say about it, but I don't know how feasible it can be.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/yerga/

qgil 2009-11-07 11:01

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Tomaszd, interersting but this belongs to the Maemo-Barcelona Long Weekend thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33905 . Please delete your email here and post it there, where other people interested in L10n might see it. We still need to reach that critical mass.

Here the discussion is about the UX metts Code activity only. Yes, currently it's a bit of a mess but We'll sort out collateral events and discussions during next week.

joshua.maverick 2009-11-08 23:09

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
@qgil, this may be in the wrong thread, but here goes:

I'm new to the community but I love design so I'm interested for sure:

Here is some of my Maemo Work

http://maemo.org/profile/view/joshuamaverick/

Personal IP Icons

Xournal Icons

maemo Mapper Icons (latest work)

WordPy App Icons

jMav smokeyLight Wallpapers

Personal Photo Frame Icon

Personal GPRS Icon

My company Maverick where I do Flash/Design as Interactive Director

I may be new here, but I really think I could help with furthering the design and visual appeal of maemo and maemo apps and widgets. Pick me, pick me! lol

Thanks for the consideration, I'd love to help out/contribute

Joshua Richards

qgil 2009-11-09 09:07

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
fyi

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=369314
In your opinion: great Maemo 5 apps needing some UX love

VDVsx 2009-11-09 11:20

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
I was wondering, if there will be space to develop something new during the hackfest, i.e put some ideas into the table and make the concept and the initial prototypes there :rolleyes: .

andy80 2009-11-09 11:21

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 369431)
I was wondering, if there will be space to develop something new during the hackfest, i.e put some ideas into the table and make the concept and the initial prototypes there :rolleyes: .

not a bad idea :)

anidel 2009-11-09 11:27

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 369431)
I was wondering, if there will be space to develop something new during the hackfest, i.e put some ideas into the table and make the concept and the initial prototypes there :rolleyes: .

You mean like.. uhm.. a proper RSS reader ? ;)

lcuk 2009-11-09 11:38

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
I did not want to threadjack which is why I kept it to a minimum.
this is also why I said think the Calendaring sketch wall is a simple logical application principle to start with.
its an easy thing which shows the principles well and can be adapted and changed to multiple purposes.
I will ensure by the time of the meetup that the calendar is completely standalone and available, just need to extract it from the playground itself and put a package round it.

I have been to some barcamps recently and they have a real world paper based grid which the sketching/calendaring ui would work well for.
pic here: http://liqbase.net/barcamp_grid.jpg

I've been a bit tied up this last week or so sorting out a dayjob (having some form of stable funding is much more important than anything for the family)

qgil 2009-11-09 12:36

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
liqbase Calendar slected for the Concepting day!

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelon...Way_of_working

lcuk, start getting prepared to come to Barcelona. Same as with GPodder and the rest of porjects scheduled, please ask to the contributors of your project to go to the Long Weekend as well. They will get preference in the invitations & sponsorship.

conny 2009-11-09 12:52

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
After giving it some more thought I´ve added myself to the wiki list now, although I´m not sure that I can contribute something useful to this event. I have some opinions about UX and translations, but that´s about it.
Please keep that in mind when you´re selecting people. I´m also happy if someone more UX focused is going instead of me :)

joshua.maverick 2009-11-09 22:49

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Do I just edit the wiki and put requested, or is there someone else doing that?

I'd like to go and design myself, and maemo apps, to death. And I think we need some more Canadians there!

VDVsx 2009-11-09 22:54

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 370370)
Do I just edit the wiki and put requested, or is there someone else doing that?

Feel free to add you name there :).

lcuk 2009-11-10 09:21

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 369431)
I was wondering, if there will be space to develop something new during the hackfest, i.e put some ideas into the table and make the concept and the initial prototypes there :rolleyes: .

I would personally like to see something proper and new and cool too.

There was a post a while ago called:
"Would you like to see a dedicated Snake game for the N900?"
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32907

It is an iconic classic Nokia game and we could put our own Maemo spin on it :)

qgil 2009-11-10 10:29

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Speaking of new things: the Video Editor project gets the second slot of Friday.

There is many GStreamer developers in Barcelona, Zaheer made innocently a proposal in the right time and all these developer will benefit from good UX input.

dneary 2009-11-10 11:36

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Hi,

I added my name to the wiki but didn't say anything here - do I need to request an invitation here also?

I'm interested in attending for a number of reasons - a long-time interest in usability and design in the GNOME project, and through being Docmaster, an interest in improving UX docs for developers.

Dave.

jtorra 2009-11-10 21:11

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Hi,

I've been doing some stuff for internet tablets since I've bought a 770 in 2006.

- The first project was a port of the Nethack game with a customized UI to be used in the tablets.
- The following was an attempt to port VLC and some libmpeg2 assembly optimizations as my university graduate project.
- The last one is the Tuner Tool that I wrote as introductory project into gstreamer.

As part of my work at Fluendo I've been involved on some of the codecs shipped by Nokia in the different devices.

I don't have any specific project in mind for the hackfest, maybe porting nethack to maemo 5 and improve the UI, or I could also join to the video edition project.

Josep.

kriksu 2009-11-10 23:47

Re: CONFIRMED: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Hi, I'm a Symbian C++ developer, and I live in Barcelona. It would be a pleasure to take part in this project. I've only got end-user experience with Maemo platform, but it could be a great opportunity to start doing something more with it, since it's becoming a serious player in the mobile world.

I would only be able to attend the meetings on Friday. I hope it wouldn't be a problem.

qgil 2009-11-11 11:26

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Many heavy weights in the Maemo UX teams have confirmed their participation in the UX meets Code hackfest. Squeeze all the help you can get from them!

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelon...d#Participants

We are hoping to open the formal registration and sponsorshipm requests as soon as we have the registration tool up and working (the same we used for the Summit). We will follow the same process with Kaleva Travel as we had in the Summit and I'm looking for a right hotel t have shared rooms for the sponsored participants, just like we did in the Summit.

qgil 2009-11-12 10:56

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Budget, travel agency, venue, UX specialists, almost the hotel rooms... all is prepared to start approving sponsorship requests and start booking flights BUT

day after day I'm waiting for some help to fine tune the registration page so we can start calling to the Maemo - Barcelona Long Weekend participants. In previous events it has been Niels the person creating the registration events but this time he is on holidays. But there must be someone elsem knowing how to do this...

I have asked for help first in the maemo-community list and now directly to Nemein, since it's a Midgard module and I don't know how to edit the form (we don't have shirts and the areas of focus are different than in the Summit, that's all). As soon as this is fixed we will be able to start processing your requests, and we will go fast.

If tomorrow morning this is not fixed then I will send an email with travel instructions to the people invited and the worst that will happen will be that you will need to register formally when the registration tool is up and running.

javispedro 2009-11-12 11:55

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Btw, do you know that Dec 6th is a Bank holiday in Spain? Since you called the "other event" a "Long Weekend" I assume you know, but just to be on the safe side...

anidel 2009-11-12 12:12

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Well, Dec the 6th is Sunday. Shouldn't matter, should it?

qgil 2009-11-12 13:55

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Yes, I was wondering whether the Pont de la Immaculada Constitucio would help us getting more people or the opposite.

qgil 2009-11-12 14:45

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
By the way, with so many UX sensitive people around... would it be possible to get some help and get a very nice wiki page?

aSIMULAtor 2009-11-12 21:49

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 
Hello

I would like to request to attend this event.

- http://maemo.org/profile/view/asimula/
- I'm a UX designer specializing in layout design and have experience in Maemo 5 ;)


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