Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

no problem men,by the way the manglish people who made the sygic, they from my country too so <<<twoboxen>>> don't buy it is made in manglish ok puto

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lets talk again over sygic.
i've had it on my nokia e71 and i've kicked tomtom because of that...
i like sygic and i will pay for it if they don't give me a review version ;)

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does sygic offers something similar to "street view" from google?

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tomorrow i will call them, maybe i can get some more news about it, when exactly they start selling this, i hope i can download just maps for florida like i done with garmin, i don't need for whole us for now waste of space on memory card

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Only if you're in the US (and possibly Canada) - the rest of the world don't get free navigation.

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

When When When will this little gem be avail?

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I agree, free navigation on high end phones would be a smart move for Nokia. However, they don't need to buy Sygic for that, they already bought NAVTEQ, who makes excellent maps and software for navigation devices.

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

nvm.......

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Excellent point. Then they should just provide better Ovi Maps.
The competition is harsh, they should use their resources ("NAVTEQ") to beat others.

Nokia always says "We have the 50% of smartphone market", OK but you are losing to others.

First, they enter the touchscreen phone market late.
Second their current OS (Symbian) is not good as iphone's or Android's.

N900 is a great move but why wait; offer more.

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

Are you counting english as one of the 6? ;) I jest.

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Well, shoot, if their english punctuation is anything like yours I had better avoid it! I can't imagine trying to follow a Freudian stream of directions.

go left 4 miles straight hang right hang left lanes available etc. I have no idea what I'm saying! Me, the huge racist idiot for not understanding what you're saying. Clearly, my fault, and I apologize.

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So all i can tell you don't buy it simple is that, or be glad somebody finally made navigation turn-by-turn for us, other thing if am not counting English as 6 i m still fine, because i know 5 more than you, and what you know only yours ?

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I could keep going, but I would end up just being mean. I'll stop. You're right, and I'm wrong. You're smart, and I'm dumb. Best wishes, friend.

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Best wishes for you too

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@twoboxen: that's not a freudian stream, that's a stream of consciousness like those from James Joyce. Just my 2(euro)cents ;)

Back on topic... It is going to be hard for Nokia to sell an updated version of Maps for the N900 if the majority of those needing voice guidance turn to Sygic and spend their money for that and for this year's maps. So, imho, they must have no new version of Maps ready at least for 2010.

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Nokia haven't come out with a KILLER APP that makes you want to have this phone. Unlike Android...they have Google Map Navigation. Heck, they're not even prepare to lunch their Ovi Store. This is the worst marketing strategy ever for any company. If you want a product to succeed...you ALWAYS come out with a killer app too...like when a new game console come out, they always have some sort of killer games ready for launch. Nokia suck in every possible way.

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I'm NOT using Android because of google Maps...
maemos KILLER APP: X-Terminal
I don't recommend to LUNCH the Ovi Store

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You are correct... that's what I get for typing without thinking :)

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As long as google maps dont give me the option to download the maps on the device, its not really a serious turn by turn navigation opponent for me.

Ok in my home country i dont mind to much because i have "unlimitted" data plan (not really but i didnt hit it yet). But in my home country i dont use maps that often.. When do i use maps? If i am on vacation or traveling for work to other places in europa or the states..

And then that 80 euro i pay Nokia or Sygic for a whole year is peanuts compared to what i have to pay my telecom provider for roaming data....

So google maps is nice, but dont tell me that it is free and cheap to use... Because that is not the case.

Being able to download maps is a pre..

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

Good point. I did not know that I have to be connected all time.
Then definitely Sygic or Ovi maps is better.

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Sygic have just contacted me and invited me to test the Navigation Software. I'll let you know what I think.

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Hows that? can i test it too? ;);)

is there a beta test group for sygic products? id give some time to the cause

Ross.

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Is it invitation only? Can we also test it?

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So when will you get it?

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currently testing but can't do too much today because of the snow. Initial thoughts are that it has a lot more features than the nokia voice guidance that i had on the n95.

the touch screen zoom buttons are a tad too small. i don't think i have over-sized fingers.

am also stuck with a uk male voice for the guidance when i'd prefer a uk female voice that isn't irritating. My guess is that you'll be able to add other voices in the release.

will post more after i try it on a journey, snow permitting tomorrow.

and who is the childish person who posted an offensive tag on this thread?

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Does the voice announce the street name?? Can you upload a video on Youtube and demonstrate how it run.

Another question: Does this app require internet to run and download map on the fly?

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Sygic belongs to Teleatlas and Teleatlas belongs to TomTom. Teleatlas is the direct competitor of Navteq. And Navteq...
Navteq has superior map quality over Teleatlas in western europe. Teleatlas is about 1-2 years behind in updating their raw material where Navteq offers newer - and since all Navteq powered apps I know usually have the better routing - I also suppose even better material. This doesn't help the case though that OVI Maps on N900 seems to be a waste ;)
No, it doesn't. And no other "offline" navigation software does. Google Maps is an *online* software, it needs an active connection to the net to work and thus can provide features like street view and the like. Sygic Drive is meant for offline route guidance and it's only meant for that and it does that quite well.
I am not quite sure, but I think there is a TTS-module (text-to-speach eg announce street names) available for the Windows Mobile version of Sygic, but I'm not to sure about that, didn't use Sygic on WM for quite a while. It provides good general directional announcements though.
You usually buy Sygic on an SD-Card where everything comes preinstalled. Don't know how they deal with program-only-downloads from stores like OVI or Windows Marketplace and the like. I suppose you can make the software download the maps via a internet connection as for example FALK CoPilot does on Android. After you started the prog for the first time it asks you to download the map data. But this will be a one-time download only, once you have the maps, they stay on your card/in your memory and get used by the program/device.

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Ok, I haven't had much opportunity to test because of the snow in the UK but have now done three short journeys.

Firstly, the software has some great features and I say that coming from the voice guidance software that I previously had on the Nokia N95. I haven't had a dedicated Sat Nav before so can't really make a comparison.

There are loads of features, too numerous to go into in a shortish posting, but comparing the old Nokia software with the sygic is almost like comparing an old BMW with a new one with lots of gadgets.

I don't want to actually review the product as it would take too long to do and I just don't have the time to do it.

But I will get straight to the point and comment on the weaknesses. This is not an attack on the product as I do think it is very good and I like much of it.

However, one of the annoyances is that it is not overtly easy to switch between applications with the sat nav running as it runs in full screen and I couldn't find a way to flick quickly to another app. As far as I can tell, the only way to do this using the sygic menus is to close the sat nav down entirely.

A way around this is to click the top button on the n900 and select phone and then minimise that and you can then browse through other apps keeping the sat nav open.

But for me, the deal breaker could well be the next, and for me the most important point. There seems to be a lag in the voice and maps. The old Nokia N95 sat nav maps were generally 'spot on' when the voice said, "turn right" you could guarantee you were right at the point that you needed to do so.

The sygic however, has told me to make a turn in x amount of yards - but then I have actually taken the turn and gone about 50 yards before the map updated. (Good job I knew where I was going).

Perhaps might this be down to conditions? I don't know but I never had that problem with my N95 unless I had lost the GPS altogether.

For me this is the most vital part of the sat nav and even though the Sygic app is crammed with useful features that would usually win me over - the apparent lag between voice and map from time to time (on the shortest of journeys - 1.8 miles) is enough for me to have second thoughts about purchasing this and buying a dedicated sat nav instead.

To be fair in this process I have to go to London on the weekend and I will drive in and out and then make any additional comments regarding the lag.

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

So it looks to have all the same features as the iphone version?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoDPeI3xZAI

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

Yes, briefly looking at that video it looks pretty much the same functionality.

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Looking forward to your coments on the London trip.
If Syngic is out of sync when you are about to make a turn, there is no point of buying it..
How is it in the trial version, can you add poi's?

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I hope it will be released on monday...

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Hopefully the lag is a matter of unpolished trial version. Still crossing my fingers for this only N900 voice nav at the moment.

I'm also curious to see how it worked out for your London trip.

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Me too...report, plz.

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Does ctrl-backspace work?

Could it be that it's the GPSses fault and not Sygics? Is the location on the map correct?

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I noticed this lag behaviour of Sygic on my N97 too. It renders the navigational skills of this device to zero. I blamed the underpowered hardware and the bad N97 GPS antenna for it. Hopefully this is not the case with N900. I agree with you, Sygic on N95 works flawlessly.

Since i rule out the poor hardware (whats the cpu consumption when using Sycig?), maybe N900 gps is also too weak or reacts too slow?

The position often jumps around on Sygic/N97, wanting me to turn around on the highway :eek:, just to see that my position is fixed on the city streets next to the highway. Can you confirm such behaviour on N900 ?

ein_guter

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This may be premature (as it's still "coming soon"), but in http://sygic.com/index.php/en/how-to-buy.html you can buy every version except Maemo5 with entire Europe or North America maps :-(

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 

Pitty that there's no such thing for Diablo :(

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Today I tried the new Ovi maps after the latest dist-upgrade. Bluetooth position seems to be updated at quite a low frequency, say two times per second. Might be that the satnav program lags in comparison to real position for this reason?

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OK
London trip accomplished.
I set off from Surrey this morning about 9:00am, heading for Streatham, South London.

Almost immediately the lag was evident for a while and then became occasional. Now i am not sure if this was the software, the gps or some other issue but it does seem to lag at times.

As my journey progressed I didn' seem to notice the lag but i was trying to get used to driving and the new screens. I think i prefer the N95 mapping views but that may just be because i am not used to the sygic screens. One really annoying thing which i couldn't work out while driving was the speed limit display onscreen was showing weird speeds.

I knew what limits should have been displayed but i was getting indicators like 25 and 35 which was confusing me. I then twigged that the road speed limit icon was displaying the kilometer speed limit and not the mile speeds.

Now the first thing i thought was i'm sure i changed the settings to miles instead of kilometers and this was confirmed when i got back and checked.

Another thing was that i didn't receive any speed camera warnings at all. I used to like this feature on the N95 so alas that was absent.

On my return journey i thought, hey lets go crazy and just follow the sat nav. I hit some heavy traffic and tried the re-route which was a big mistake. I had to make lots of turns quite quickly and there seemed to be lag which is not good when you are completely lost.

Sygic voice doesn't name the street you need to turn into but if it is a named road it will say turn right into A1000 or whatever. I found it confusing when the voice was telling me to take a turn and the screen would show what street to turn into but then after looking at the turn it seemed to be the wrong street.

Whether this was another instance of the lag i'm not sure but it confused me and i spent ages stuck trying to get out of the traffic and find out where i was going.

At one point it just seemed to be sending me in one big loop. That may be software lag, gps issues or user incompetence - coupled with unfamiliar screens.

I took to the voice guidance on the N95 almost immediately and loved it. I will persevere while testing the sygic software but if you asked me right now if i would buy it then I wouldn't. Very rarely did i notice lags on the N95 and even then the mapping was quick to restore and clear. Perhaps i am not being fair to sygic at the moment so i will keep using and testing it for a few weeks until the testing period runs out before making a decision on this. If the retail price on this is expensive when it is released then i may well go for a dedicated sat nav instead.

I will post further feedback if it is useful for anyone?