Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

stop screaming. you did it about 30 times in this post. Its quite annoying reading posts like yours.

How long is a meter? Every measurement comes with an uncertainty. Assuming is when you observe something and draw a conclusion together with a certain uncertainty. He has a right to assume anything. To be critical is good, necessary and encouraged in sciences.

Well it depends on how you define multitasking. That the software is using CPU at all times or if only one uses CPU at a time a the others are sort of in a hibernation state ready to be picked up at any time. From what I have seen, the n900 is capable of true multitasking. It does not mean, however, that all the 30 applications seen on youtube are utilizing CPU simultaneously. Nevertheless, the author of this thread is asking relevant questions that are refreshing in such a Nokia-friendly site as this. Don't shout.

You seem to be assuming lots of things yourself.

The author doesn't question this


First of all, iPhone does multitask, just not out of the box.
Its not much harder to make the iPhone multitask than installing the package needed on the n900 to get the terminal-window running. Secondly, my amiga 500 and my nokia n73 could multitask; this isn't the new world. Thirdly stop shouting.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean others don't see it. Now you are assuming again. It's just like people said 24 FPS on a TV is enough to make it smooth. I need about 80 fps in a computer game to call it smooth. I doubt the nokia n900 is capable of that even in the menu. It is how you define smooth. What is your definition?

no comment

Actually, it seems as if you are the one assuming too much.

Excuse me but you are the worst troll.

You are just plain rude and should stay away from forums where people meet to discuss on an intelligent level.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

I am running Maemo 5 on my desktop computer hence it doesn't have to be n900.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

want a wireless cable? RealityCheck you make yourself become a clown and I dont know why. You have no idea of the tech side of the world! Now consider to be able to forward your picture/video to somewhere else just now as one of the first of humankind... not earlier now is the second. that was lots of years ago. now you fwd your video to a network-attached-beamer...

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Exactly my point. At least someone seems able to reason on this forum. The others are just plain immature.

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I can watch a computer game on youtube and say its shite without having played it myself. There are thousands of people reading this forum because they don't own the device. If we buy the device or not is decided partly by the input and feedback we get from forums like this one. Yes you are supposed to take his opinion, especially since he has held one in his hands which is more than most people here have. You've exposed yourself as irrelevant and stupid. Tell me, what is the minimum amount of time spent with the device for forum-writing-qualification?

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Youre right, you can form an opinion about something by watching it for a few seconds. But that would be the difference right there between an opinion and an informed one.

So shoot me for choosing to take the word of several ( at least 20 ) device reviewers, who will have had pre-production devices ( ie not as good as porduction devices ) to review and have not mentioned the issues raised by realitycheck. Shoot me again for believing my own eyes based upon the several ( at least 20 ) videos I have seen of the device running the apps, switching between apps, playing video etc.

If that makes me irrelevant and stupid, so be it.

However Im not the one starting threads ( that scare every potential owner of this device ) based upon very flimsy evidence ( if any ).

I am not for blindly defending a product, or a manufacturer - far from it. If you read some of the other threads here you'll see Ive been having a go at ossipena for endlessly defending Nokia no matter how much they cock things up.

So I am all for healthy criticism, as long as the person doing it can back up their claims ( in any way at all ). Otherwise all we have is a classic troll. If you want to associate yourself with this guy by defending his viewpoint you go for it. Dont expect me to listen to you either then.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

I have been using an N900 for over a month now, and not experienced one single issue you mention. Take it from me, you have obviously been exposed to either an N900 with possibly a corrupt memory card fitted, or one that has early prototype firmware.

I have been running several applications at any one time, without any issues, no jerky side scrolling, in fact, mine has been smooth scrolling thoughout a couple of firmware changes.

Please do you homework before posting in future, as this thread is quite simply taking valuable time of members here who could be elsewhere within the forums, helping and advising other members who really know what they want out of the N900.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Erm.... The author of that application already explained in this thread that RealityCheck was right about that, and that the video was being generated by other 'heavyweight' computers under the control of the N900.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Why are you talking about true multitasking(no application idling) ?
Imagine how fast the battery would drain if applications wouldn't idle when needed.

Then you would be complaining about battery life.

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even though i had allready to reflash the device and had random reboots, i am not disappointed.

all those points OP mentioned, works flawlessly!

and shipping delays? i will soon punch somebody in the face if that ******** is still around even though shipping has been started...

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

So shipping has started. Maybe 5% or 10% ( No I dont have the true figures. I doubt even Nokia have the figures ) of the people who ordered have their devices. Another large percentage are still waiting for confirmation of shipping, or they have had their orders cancelled.

So I guess you'll be punching a lot of people in the face.

Dont worry, once Nokia actually fulfil their role as a manufacturer/distributor, people might leave poor, poor Nokia alone and you can relax.

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I did not say it is true I just said it is possible, suggesting a invisible A/V cable is like bidding on wireless lan cables on ebay

and btw most of the "did you see the lag in the video" has nothing to do with the n900! the youtube videos got stuck at several points

now consider to stop complaining of bad behavior please.
this is a forum and noone is to shout or something, if you pick it up you make yourself become a clown, just step back and let the **** fight.

some things are new to people some are not. I was stating that above as it is a known thing or what do you think TV is working with, cables? (now dont start with me I know its not networking)

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

I won't defend the poster to whom you replied, but surely you see where the assuming actually started, don't you?

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

f pickels, the posters like Bratag are actually on the payroll of Apple, Blackberry, AT&T, and Verizon. They are being paid to make the N900 "community" look so repulsive that interested readers will look elsewhere. Hell, it worked with me.

So here is the indicator you'll need to discern Apple operatives (like Bratag) from the real Maemo community: they call critics trolls.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Wayyy too simplistic.

Long-established members have used the troll epithet against certain critics, ie, those with disingenuous "points" and/or obvious agendas.

Hey, if we're gonna get conspiratorial, let's run with it... :D

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

About delays, here is an article from ITviikko@Finland.

google translate: http://translate.google.com/translat...F7&sl=fi&tl=en

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

That only applies applys to Finland, altough situation is propably similar elsewhere.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

omg.....i want one,still...i dont listen to you all n900 haters....finland big shops sell them in two weeks time:D

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

I just have a low tolerance for stupidity. The original poster did not make ONE valid argument - every single point was easily reputed. If want to have a whine (especially if you don't even OWN the device yet) then might I suggest http://sadviolin.com

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Your ignorance is as evident as your stupidity...troll!

So let me guess--I'm on the Apple bandwagon?

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Although i had some misunderstanding with Bratag he's a good guy and a good poster. Maybe sometimes he overreact, but everything you said is pure BS.

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If it is then it's BS that's being repeated by several sources, some of whom claim to have the production N900. The idea that it's an Apple conspiracy is laughable. So far, the N900 isn't even a blip on the radar as far as actual sales like, say, the Droid's estimated 100,000 in the first weekend in the US (source: Bloomberg).

The fact of the matter is that the N900 desperately needs the 1.1 OS release. The current version seems to be buggy, which is to be expected in the 1.0 release of any OS, especially when combined with new hardware. This forum could stand to be more sympathetic with detractors if we are going to win them over instead of becoming a tightly knit but inward looking fringe group.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

...and many of the statements have been discredited, including by some of us with less mature devices.

Posting complaints in an internet forum is cheap. Reviews on objective, respected technical sites will carry the real weight.

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If they released 1.1 too quickly, it wouldn't actually have the improvements you're hoping for. They'd be in 1.2 or later :-)

They can only write, test and polish the code so fast...

Strongly agree. Successful open source needs to work constructively with criticism, and keep welcoming constructive critics so they become participants, not attack them.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

True on both counts.

Still, as to your first point, there's an old saying: "the customer is always right." A disgruntled customer can be told how to fix his problem or that his problem exists and is being addressed or even that his problem exists but it can't be fixed. Telling him to sit down and shut up it is not the best way to convince him to stay a customer (not that you, yourself, have done that).

Similarly, there have been reviews on respected technical sites which have been attacked by some as being unobjective because they brought up issues or they committed the cardinal sin of mentioning the iPhone. People need to accept that not every review will yield a 10 out of 10 or even a recommendation. That does not mean the reviewer or the site isn't objective, it means their criteria are different.

I think the reviews, both from users and from sites, have been primarily positive. In the face of those that aren't, I am hopeful that maemo.org can respond in a positive manner.

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Multitasking or not... (I would say it IS multitasking)
I have a HTC Touch HD which I have flashed with a Leo (HTC HD2 w/1ghz snapdragon cpu) rom running 6.5. It runs pretty stable... but when opening 3 apps like browser, camera and Cbr reader... it uses 75% ram and begins to get buggy...1 or 2 more apps and it gets so laggy I have problems shutting the apps down. When tryin to "multitask" like that, I pray that no one calls me or I would be in a world of hurt :p

I'm so looking forward to the n900 and to finally own a "phone" with a full qwerty... ever since I saw the Nokia 6800... And no its not a watch ;)
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1259102875

Oh and in the infamous video with the screen tear (not the water running from your eye when getting an iPhone for christmas) I think it might be the wallpaper moving at a different speed than the icons (to give the float effect) tho I must say that I have a hard time seeing it... AND its a FIRST look video...

that or its swamp gas lighting up a hot air balloon giving the effect of light moving very fast over the sky, then hovering over your car just to speed out in to space... :p (sorry ranting... Zzzleepy)

Re: Disappointed with N900 - Reality Check!
 

Another "I don't know anything about the device, but i like to rant." topic... LOL

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Such is the price of fame. :rolleyes:

At least we're not the only ones. I took a look at the Droid forum and they have the same kind of posts. I liked the title of one of the newer ones: "This cant seriously be how this phone is supposed to operate."

To paraphrase Barnum, you can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.