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mikec 2009-11-25 19:04

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
and here's the output from a good unit. You can see the mics at device 24:[0-0] and 25:[0-1]

0: [ 0] : control
16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
33: : timer

mikec 2009-11-25 19:06

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGrim (Post 392075)
I seriously don't think this is software. We'll need someone from nokia to confirm, but i think the headset mic and the embedded one use the same hardware from some point on, which implies the same software too. Are there separate controls for headset and embedded mic ?
If they do use the same path, it becomes obvious that it's just faulty hardware
EDIT: could people please start posting serial numbers?

Mr Grim I am inclined to agree with you, but no harm in looking at both. You can see from the /proc/asound/devices there appear to be two mic devices

tanekray 2009-11-25 19:07

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mklass (Post 391801)
I have just opended mine an played with it for like 10 mins plugged charger in then made a call to test.... it worked fine :D

I need to make a note to do the same next week.
BTW you need to change your footer :)

or not...:confused:

sony123 2009-11-25 19:08

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Hi all,

I am no expert in linux but I checked the Summit device's log file it seems to me the log for audio driver is:
[ 2.940551] ASoC version 0.13.2
[ 2.954132] AIC3X Audio Codec 0.2
[ 2.956695] asoc: tlv320aic3x <-> omap-mcbsp-dai-0 mapping ok
[ 2.958221] asoc: Bluetooth codec <-> omap-mcbsp-dai-1 mapping ok
[ 3.010009] input: RX51 (tlv320aic3x) Jack as /class/input/input2
[ 3.034088] ALSA device list:
[ 3.034149] #0: RX51 (tlv320aic3x)

[ EDIT ] A quick google seems to suggest tlv320 is an audio codec.

Maybe someone can check the folder
[ 3.010009] input: RX51 (tlv320aic3x) Jack as /class/input/input2
and see what input2 points to.....

By the way the debounce clock message should not be something to worry about. If my guess right it's just a filter to filter out asynchronous signal on the MMC data bus. Maybe it's not needed so Nokia didn't use it.

maemoexperts 2009-11-25 19:30

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Hi,

Thanks for carrying on the conversation, I had to get some shut eye, was shattered.

Heres the dmesg output :
Code:

[ 3.057067] Disabling unused clock "dpll4_m5x2_ck"
[ 3.057098] Disabling unused clock "dpll3_m3x2_ck"
[ 3.057159] Disabling unused clock "sys_clkout1"
[ 3.057525] Bootup reason: pwr_key
[ 3.057617] OMAP GPIO switch handler initializing
[ 3.060150] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 3.060180] proximity (GPIO 89) is now open
[ 3.060211] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open
[ 3.060241] headphone (GPIO 177) is now disconnected
[ 3.060272] cam_shutter (GPIO 110) is now closed
[ 3.060302] cam_launch (GPIO 69) is now inactive
[ 3.060333] cam_focus (GPIO 68) is now inactive
[ 3.060363] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30 variant c rev 1
[ 3.072601] omapfb: acx565akm rev 8b LCD detected
[ 3.088562] tpa6130a2 2-0060: Headphone amplifier initialized successfully
[ 3.135864] UBIFS: mounted UBI device 0, volume 0, name "rootfs"
[ 3.135955] UBIFS: file system size: 254693376 bytes (248724 KiB, 242 MiB, 1974 LEBs)
[ 3.136016] UBIFS: journal size: 9033728 bytes (8822 KiB, 8 MiB, 71 LEBs)
[ 3.136077] UBIFS: media format: 4 (latest is 4)
[ 3.136108] UBIFS: default compressor: lzo
[ 3.136138] UBIFS: reserved for root: 4384586 bytes (4281 KiB)
[ 3.136688] VFS: Mounted root (ubifs filesystem).
[ 3.136871] Freeing init memory: 144K
[ 4.628601] Registered led device: twl4030:vibrator
[ 4.809082] twl4030_rtc twl4030_rtc: rtc core: registered twl4030_rtc as rtc0
[ 4.861602] tsl2563 2-0029: model 7, rev. 0
[ 4.931854] lp5523 2-0032: LP5523 Programmable led chip found
[ 5.041442] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[ 5.111236] I2C driver for Si4713 FM Radio Transmitter
[ 5.823547] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.15
[ 5.853881] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[ 5.853942] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 5.853973] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 5.903320] hci_h4p hci_h4p: Registering HCI H4P device
[ 5.931854] i2c_omap i2c_omap.2: controller timed out
[ 5.988677] lp5523 2-0032: got interrupt from led chip
[ 5.989257] lp5523 2-0032: interrupt from led chip 4f
[ 5.989288] lp5523 2-0032: all engines configured
[ 5.989349] lp5523 2-0032: disabling engines
[ 5.989959] Registered led device: lp5523:kb1
[ 5.990112] Registered led device: lp5523:kb2
[ 5.990234] Registered led device: lp5523:kb3
[ 5.990386] Registered led device: lp5523:kb4
[ 5.990539] Registered led device: lp5523:b
[ 5.990661] Registered led device: lp5523:g
[ 5.990814] Registered led device: lp5523:r
[ 5.990936] Registered led device: lp5523:kb5
[ 5.991058] Registered led device: lp5523:kb6
[ 6.073791] radio-si4713 2-0063: Detected Si4713 (0x0d) Firmware: 3.0 Patch ID: 00:00 Component: 3.0 Chip Rev.: unknown
[ 6.096069] nokia-av nokia-av: accessory detect module initialized
[ 6.161590] TSC2005 driver initializing
[ 6.162261] input: TSC2005 touchscreen as /class/input/input3
[ 6.173522] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.0: Failed to get debounce clock
[ 6.283935] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.1: Failed to get debounce clock
[ 6.414489] omap_wdt omap_wdt: OMAP Watchdog Timer Rev 0x31: initial timeout 60 sec, nowayout is on
[ 6.441986] SSI DRIVER Version 1.1-rc2
[ 6.442535] omap_ssi omap_ssi: SSI Hardware REVISION 1.0
[ 6.545196] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
[ 6.583190] smc91x: not found (-19).
[ 6.590667] wl1251: loaded
[ 6.591400] wl1251: initialized
[ 6.666809] mmc0: host does not support reading read-only switch. assuming write-enable.
[ 6.666900] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 8fe4
[ 6.673217] mmcblk0: mmc0:8fe4 SU16G 14.8 GiB
[ 6.673553] mmcblk0: p1
[ 6.900756] mmc1: new high speed MMC card at address 0001
[ 6.916381] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 MMC32G 29.8 GiB
[ 6.916717] mmcblk1: p1 p2 p3
[ 6.967437] CMT speech driver v0.2.0
[ 6.970214] NET: Registered protocol family 35
[ 6.999267] SSI McSAAB PROTOCOL Version: 2.0-rc1
[ 7.286468] dspbridge_init: 412800 bytes @ 80600000
[ 7.367980] omap-iommu omap-iommu.1: isp registered
[ 7.531951] omap-iommu omap-iommu.1: isp: version 1.1
[ 7.676818] smia-sensor 2-0010: firmware: requesting smia-sensor-01-022b-04.bin
[ 7.701568] smia_reglist_import: meta_reglist version 2009-07-27
[ 7.701660] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 488fmt 30314142 ival 100/1502 ptr d0c392a0
[ 7.701660] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 488fmt 30314142 ival 100/3003 ptr d0c39228
[ 7.701690] smia_reglist_import: type 1 w 0 h 0 fmt 30314142 ival 100/0 ptr d0c39090
[ 7.701721] smia_reglist_import: type 0 w 0 h 0 fmt 30314142 ival 100/0 ptr d0c39038
[ 7.714477] et8ek8 3-003e: firmware: requesting et8ek8-0002.bin
[ 7.739044] smia_reglist_import: meta_reglist version V14 03-June-2008
[ 7.739105] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314442 ival 100/1292 ptr d0c3c1f4
[ 7.739135] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314142 ival 100/399 ptr d0c3c454
[ 7.739166] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984fmt 30314142 ival 100/501 ptr d0c3c57c
[ 7.739166] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984 fmt 30314442 ival 100/2500 ptr d0c3c614
[ 7.739196] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984 fmt 30314442 ival 100/3000 ptr d0c3c28c
[ 7.739196] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 864 h 656 fmt 30314142 ival 100/2988 ptr d0c3c324
[ 7.739227] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 492 fmt 30314142 ival 100/499 ptr d0c3c4e4
[ 7.739257] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 492 fmt 30314142 ival 100/2993 ptr d0c3c3bc
[ 7.739257] smia_reglist_import: type 1 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314142 ival 100/1207 ptr d0c3c04c
[ 8.360137] g_file_storage gadget: File-backed Storage Gadget, version: 7 August 2007
[ 8.360229] g_file_storage gadget: Number of LUNs=2 Number of buffers=16
[ 8.360260] musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: MUSB HDRC host driver
[ 8.360839] musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[ 8.361328] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 8.361663] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 8.361755] hub 1-0:1.0: 1 port detected
[ 11.699462] McSAAB: ACWAKE DOWN
[ 11.699523] McSAAB: ACWAKE UP
[ 11.699584] McSAAB: WAKELINES TEST OK
[ 15.225830] kjournald starting. Commit interval 1 seconds
[ 15.230529] EXT3 FS on mmcblk1p2, internal journal
[ 15.230560] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode.
[ 15.507080] Adding 786424k swap on /dev/mmcblk0p3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:786424k
[ 15.951049] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.13
[ 15.951080] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 16.061889] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6
[ 16.061920] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 16.069702] hci_h4p hci_h4p: firmware: requesting bcmfw.bin
[ 16.696136] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 16.696258] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 16.697662] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 20.692871] misc iphb: Module registered in 2.6.28-omap1, built Oct 28 2009 15:33:55
[ 38.540069] warning: `dnsmasq' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[ 44.884674] cfg80211: Regulatory domain changed to country: EU
[ 44.884704] (start_freq - end_freq @ bandwidth), (max_antenna_gain, max_eirp)
[ 44.884735] (2402000 KHz - 2482000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[ 44.884765] (5170000 KHz - 5190000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884765] (5190000 KHz - 5210000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884796] (5210000 KHz - 5230000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884796] (5230000 KHz - 5330000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[ 44.884826] (5490000 KHz - 5710000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 3000 mBm)
[ 48.673614] gprs0: attached
[ 48.759521] SCSI subsystem initialized
[ 49.179321] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[ 615.510009] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed
[ 718.284667] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 740.252380] cam_shutter (GPIO 110) is now open
[ 860.877441] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed
[ 869.867858] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1in for bulk IN, maxpacket 512
[ 869.867889] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1out for bulk OUT, maxpacket 512
[ 869.867950] g_file_storage gadget: high speed config #1
[ 882.312438] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1in for bulk IN, maxpacket 512
[ 882.312469] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1out for bulk OUT, maxpacket 512
[ 882.312530] g_file_storage gadget: high speed config #1
[ 1174.478942] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 1184.418029] twl4030_keypad twl4030_keypad: Spurious key event 4-2
[ 1184.615020] twl4030_keypad twl4030_keypad: Spurious key event 4-2

and also the cat /proc/asound/cards output :
Code:

cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [RX51 ]: tlv320aic3x - RX51
RX51 (tlv320aic3x)

and finally for product batch comparison, the serial number :
Code:

356938030154760
Brb, need coffee .........

Venomrush 2009-11-25 19:37

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikec (Post 392078)
and here's the output from a good unit. You can see the mics at device 24:[0-0] and 25:[0-1]

0: [ 0] : control
16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
33: : timer

What did you put in terminal to get this?

jjx 2009-11-25 19:41

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 391696)
Never drain the battery, ever.

Surely this is a device where draining the battery is inevitable from to time, probably when you're in the middle of an important call :) because it's not got that much battery life if you're out using it all day.

mikec 2009-11-25 19:43

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 392136)
What did you put in terminal to get this?

I got one of the guys to : cat /proc/asound/devices

i dont have a device.

jjx 2009-11-25 19:45

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 392035)
It's very bad for the battery to do a deep discharge. If it needs to be charged often, charge it often. Every accidental discharge-till-it-turns-off will reduce the capacity and lifetime of the battery. This is how it is with lithium-ion and lithium-polymer batteries.

That's the opposite of what my first Nokia phone's manual said (also using an Li-ion battery). It advised fully charging and discharging for a couple of cycles at the beginning.

Have the battery designs changed to reverse this advice completely?

Also: You said if the battery is fully discharged, it will be impossible to charge it because the N900 cannot boot into charging mode. Where does "accidental discharge-till-it-turns-off" fit into this? Will that brick the device, or that an incomplete discharge which turns it off by hitting a threshold?

mikec 2009-11-25 19:45

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemoexperts (Post 392120)
Hi,

Thanks for carrying on the conversation, I had to get some shut eye, was shattered.

Heres the dmesg output :
Code:

[ 3.057067] Disabling unused clock "dpll4_m5x2_ck"
[ 3.057098] Disabling unused clock "dpll3_m3x2_ck"
[ 3.057159] Disabling unused clock "sys_clkout1"
[ 3.057525] Bootup reason: pwr_key
[ 3.057617] OMAP GPIO switch handler initializing
[ 3.060150] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 3.060180] proximity (GPIO 89) is now open
[ 3.060211] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open
[ 3.060241] headphone (GPIO 177) is now disconnected
[ 3.060272] cam_shutter (GPIO 110) is now closed
[ 3.060302] cam_launch (GPIO 69) is now inactive
[ 3.060333] cam_focus (GPIO 68) is now inactive
[ 3.060363] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30 variant c rev 1
[ 3.072601] omapfb: acx565akm rev 8b LCD detected
[ 3.088562] tpa6130a2 2-0060: Headphone amplifier initialized successfully
[ 3.135864] UBIFS: mounted UBI device 0, volume 0, name "rootfs"
[ 3.135955] UBIFS: file system size: 254693376 bytes (248724 KiB, 242 MiB, 1974 LEBs)
[ 3.136016] UBIFS: journal size: 9033728 bytes (8822 KiB, 8 MiB, 71 LEBs)
[ 3.136077] UBIFS: media format: 4 (latest is 4)
[ 3.136108] UBIFS: default compressor: lzo
[ 3.136138] UBIFS: reserved for root: 4384586 bytes (4281 KiB)
[ 3.136688] VFS: Mounted root (ubifs filesystem).
[ 3.136871] Freeing init memory: 144K
[ 4.628601] Registered led device: twl4030:vibrator
[ 4.809082] twl4030_rtc twl4030_rtc: rtc core: registered twl4030_rtc as rtc0
[ 4.861602] tsl2563 2-0029: model 7, rev. 0
[ 4.931854] lp5523 2-0032: LP5523 Programmable led chip found
[ 5.041442] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[ 5.111236] I2C driver for Si4713 FM Radio Transmitter
[ 5.823547] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.15
[ 5.853881] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[ 5.853942] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 5.853973] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 5.903320] hci_h4p hci_h4p: Registering HCI H4P device
[ 5.931854] i2c_omap i2c_omap.2: controller timed out
[ 5.988677] lp5523 2-0032: got interrupt from led chip
[ 5.989257] lp5523 2-0032: interrupt from led chip 4f
[ 5.989288] lp5523 2-0032: all engines configured
[ 5.989349] lp5523 2-0032: disabling engines
[ 5.989959] Registered led device: lp5523:kb1
[ 5.990112] Registered led device: lp5523:kb2
[ 5.990234] Registered led device: lp5523:kb3
[ 5.990386] Registered led device: lp5523:kb4
[ 5.990539] Registered led device: lp5523:b
[ 5.990661] Registered led device: lp5523:g
[ 5.990814] Registered led device: lp5523:r
[ 5.990936] Registered led device: lp5523:kb5
[ 5.991058] Registered led device: lp5523:kb6
[ 6.073791] radio-si4713 2-0063: Detected Si4713 (0x0d) Firmware: 3.0 Patch ID: 00:00 Component: 3.0 Chip Rev.: unknown
[ 6.096069] nokia-av nokia-av: accessory detect module initialized
[ 6.161590] TSC2005 driver initializing
[ 6.162261] input: TSC2005 touchscreen as /class/input/input3
[ 6.173522] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.0: Failed to get debounce clock
[ 6.283935] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.1: Failed to get debounce clock
[ 6.414489] omap_wdt omap_wdt: OMAP Watchdog Timer Rev 0x31: initial timeout 60 sec, nowayout is on
[ 6.441986] SSI DRIVER Version 1.1-rc2
[ 6.442535] omap_ssi omap_ssi: SSI Hardware REVISION 1.0
[ 6.545196] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
[ 6.583190] smc91x: not found (-19).
[ 6.590667] wl1251: loaded
[ 6.591400] wl1251: initialized
[ 6.666809] mmc0: host does not support reading read-only switch. assuming write-enable.
[ 6.666900] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 8fe4
[ 6.673217] mmcblk0: mmc0:8fe4 SU16G 14.8 GiB
[ 6.673553] mmcblk0: p1
[ 6.900756] mmc1: new high speed MMC card at address 0001
[ 6.916381] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 MMC32G 29.8 GiB
[ 6.916717] mmcblk1: p1 p2 p3
[ 6.967437] CMT speech driver v0.2.0
[ 6.970214] NET: Registered protocol family 35
[ 6.999267] SSI McSAAB PROTOCOL Version: 2.0-rc1
[ 7.286468] dspbridge_init: 412800 bytes @ 80600000
[ 7.367980] omap-iommu omap-iommu.1: isp registered
[ 7.531951] omap-iommu omap-iommu.1: isp: version 1.1
[ 7.676818] smia-sensor 2-0010: firmware: requesting smia-sensor-01-022b-04.bin
[ 7.701568] smia_reglist_import: meta_reglist version 2009-07-27
[ 7.701660] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 488fmt 30314142 ival 100/1502 ptr d0c392a0
[ 7.701660] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 488fmt 30314142 ival 100/3003 ptr d0c39228
[ 7.701690] smia_reglist_import: type 1 w 0 h 0 fmt 30314142 ival 100/0 ptr d0c39090
[ 7.701721] smia_reglist_import: type 0 w 0 h 0 fmt 30314142 ival 100/0 ptr d0c39038
[ 7.714477] et8ek8 3-003e: firmware: requesting et8ek8-0002.bin
[ 7.739044] smia_reglist_import: meta_reglist version V14 03-June-2008
[ 7.739105] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314442 ival 100/1292 ptr d0c3c1f4
[ 7.739135] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314142 ival 100/399 ptr d0c3c454
[ 7.739166] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984fmt 30314142 ival 100/501 ptr d0c3c57c
[ 7.739166] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984 fmt 30314442 ival 100/2500 ptr d0c3c614
[ 7.739196] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 1296 h 984 fmt 30314442 ival 100/3000 ptr d0c3c28c
[ 7.739196] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 864 h 656 fmt 30314142 ival 100/2988 ptr d0c3c324
[ 7.739227] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 492 fmt 30314142 ival 100/499 ptr d0c3c4e4
[ 7.739257] smia_reglist_import: type 10 w 648 h 492 fmt 30314142 ival 100/2993 ptr d0c3c3bc
[ 7.739257] smia_reglist_import: type 1 w 2592 h 1968 fmt 30314142 ival 100/1207 ptr d0c3c04c
[ 8.360137] g_file_storage gadget: File-backed Storage Gadget, version: 7 August 2007
[ 8.360229] g_file_storage gadget: Number of LUNs=2 Number of buffers=16
[ 8.360260] musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: MUSB HDRC host driver
[ 8.360839] musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[ 8.361328] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 8.361663] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 8.361755] hub 1-0:1.0: 1 port detected
[ 11.699462] McSAAB: ACWAKE DOWN
[ 11.699523] McSAAB: ACWAKE UP
[ 11.699584] McSAAB: WAKELINES TEST OK
[ 15.225830] kjournald starting. Commit interval 1 seconds
[ 15.230529] EXT3 FS on mmcblk1p2, internal journal
[ 15.230560] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode.
[ 15.507080] Adding 786424k swap on /dev/mmcblk0p3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:786424k
[ 15.951049] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.13
[ 15.951080] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 16.061889] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6
[ 16.061920] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 16.069702] hci_h4p hci_h4p: firmware: requesting bcmfw.bin
[ 16.696136] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 16.696258] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 16.697662] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 20.692871] misc iphb: Module registered in 2.6.28-omap1, built Oct 28 2009 15:33:55
[ 38.540069] warning: `dnsmasq' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[ 44.884674] cfg80211: Regulatory domain changed to country: EU
[ 44.884704] (start_freq - end_freq @ bandwidth), (max_antenna_gain, max_eirp)
[ 44.884735] (2402000 KHz - 2482000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[ 44.884765] (5170000 KHz - 5190000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884765] (5190000 KHz - 5210000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884796] (5210000 KHz - 5230000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2300 mBm)
[ 44.884796] (5230000 KHz - 5330000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[ 44.884826] (5490000 KHz - 5710000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (600 mBi, 3000 mBm)
[ 48.673614] gprs0: attached
[ 48.759521] SCSI subsystem initialized
[ 49.179321] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[ 615.510009] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed
[ 718.284667] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 740.252380] cam_shutter (GPIO 110) is now open
[ 860.877441] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed
[ 869.867858] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1in for bulk IN, maxpacket 512
[ 869.867889] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1out for bulk OUT, maxpacket 512
[ 869.867950] g_file_storage gadget: high speed config #1
[ 882.312438] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1in for bulk IN, maxpacket 512
[ 882.312469] musb_hdrc periph: enabled ep1out for bulk OUT, maxpacket 512
[ 882.312530] g_file_storage gadget: high speed config #1
[ 1174.478942] slide (GPIO 71) is now open
[ 1184.418029] twl4030_keypad twl4030_keypad: Spurious key event 4-2
[ 1184.615020] twl4030_keypad twl4030_keypad: Spurious key event 4-2

and also the cat /proc/asound/cards output :
Code:

cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [RX51 ]: tlv320aic3x - RX51
RX51 (tlv320aic3x)

and finally for product batch comparison, the serial number :
Code:

356938030154760
Brb, need coffee .........

cheers looks like your sound-chip is being recognised.
can you do : cat /proc/asound/devices

pwannell 2009-11-25 19:47

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemoexperts (Post 392120)

and finally for product batch comparison, the serial number :
Code:

356938030154760
Brb, need coffee .........

Looks like mine was built before yours mate, mine is;
Code:

2970
I shall know if mines faulty prob on Friday. :-(

tanekray 2009-11-25 19:49

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjx (Post 392160)
That's the opposite of what my first Nokia phone's manual said (also using an Li-ion battery). It advised fully charging and discharging for a couple of cycles at the beginning.

Have the battery designs changed to reverse this advice completely?

Also: You said if the battery is fully discharged, it will be impossible to charge it because the N900 cannot boot into charging mode. Where does "accidental discharge-till-it-turns-off" fit into this? Will that brick the device, or that an incomplete discharge which turns it off by hitting a threshold?

I am also confused over this :confused: I thought occasional total discharges were good, if not recommended in the first few weeks.

edit :soz just realised this is the wrong thread for this.

Bundyo 2009-11-25 19:55

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Are you guys sure about this discharge thing? Mine has shut down on several occasions because of discharged battery but I never had any problems charging it. I know though that charging from the data cable sometimes doesn't trigger because it is actually software controlled. However the dumb power socket charger should charge like a champ.

maemoexperts 2009-11-25 19:59

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
As requested.

Code:

~ $ cat /proc/asound/devices
 0: [ 0]  : control
 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
 25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
 33:        : timer
~ $

Same as the previous quoted output.

MrGrim 2009-11-25 20:01

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
I'm pretty sure the device shuts down with something like 5% charge so it has some to spare to keep settings without eating into the internal battery. So if you don't try to hard to discharge it, you should be fine
Now can we get back to the subject? I see the serial numbers are kinda wide apart, if it's a manufacturing problem it's most likely intermittent

mikec 2009-11-25 20:13

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemoexperts (Post 392200)
As requested.

Code:

~ $ cat /proc/asound/devices
 0: [ 0]  : control
 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
 25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
 33:        : timer
~ $

Same as the previous quoted output.

looks like all the software and sound hardware is coming up fine.
and when you run alsamixer do you see the mixer for the audio capture? if you do check that the mixer is turned all the way up.

and then try an audio capture using :arecord

maemojedi 2009-11-25 20:16

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
spoke to my girlfriend and she said the audio was crisp!

I didn't tell her I had the phone but she noticed the difference right away so iono

dnastase 2009-11-25 20:18

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwotski (Post 392041)
To see the audio driver, couldn't you just do:

lsmod | grep snd

and

cat /proc/asound/cards

?

I already did that, it's not that easy :confused:

Nokia-N900-42-11:/sys/devices/platform# lsmod | egrep -i "snd|aud|sound"
Nokia-N900-42-11:/sys/devices/platform#

Nokia-N900-42-11:/sys/devices/platform# cat /proc/asound/devices
0: [ 0] : control
16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
33: : timer

nuknuk 2009-11-25 20:18

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
This is way above me lads is it fixable or do i send back for a replacement
p.s i spoke to nokia tech guy today and he said i was the first person to call with a problem with the n900 lucky me anyway he is going to call me back tomorow he had a n900 in front of him and it to was mic not working anyway thanks again.

Venomrush 2009-11-25 20:18

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGrim (Post 392205)
Now can we get back to the subject? I see the serial numbers are kinda wide apart, if it's a manufacturing problem it's most likely intermittent

They are not wide apart if you look closely.
Other UK users receiving theirs assuming from the same batch because they were all on the same flight from Germany, did not have the issue.

The main difference was the others did not charge their N900s before turning it on for the first time.

Like someone mentioned before there might be static from the phone. I think the hardware got fried?

pwannell 2009-11-25 20:20

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
3 so far, and the only commonality at the moment is the 356938030154
mine ends 52. We really need some more serial number though tbh

thiswayup 2009-11-25 20:20

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Nuknuk and Maemo only 50 apart? Is that a clue?

356938030154810
356938030154760

Venomrush 2009-11-25 20:21

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 392242)
This is way above me lads is it fixable or do i send back for a replacement
p.s i spoke to nokia tech guy today and he said i was the first person to call with a problem with the n900 lucky me anyway he is going to call me back tomorow he had a n900 in front of him and it to was mic not working anyway thanks again.

nuknuk, is there a dedicated support phone line for the N900 similar to one for N97?

pwannell 2009-11-25 20:22

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
and lets be honest here, all those who have got their phones atm are what 50-100 people?

hoggerz 2009-11-25 20:22

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwannell (Post 392164)
Looks like mine was built before yours mate, mine is;
Code:

356938030152970
I shall know if mines faulty prob on Friday. :-(


He hasn't received his yet so you can't consider his as not working

Hoggerz

nuknuk 2009-11-25 20:24

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
I called 08450455555 i of to pub with lads now am sure i will get the piZZ take about this phone anyway cu later good luck.

pwannell 2009-11-25 20:24

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hoggerz (Post 392261)
He hasn't received his yet so you can't consider his as not working

Hoggerz

Exactly, i'm just preying and hoping at the moment, but it looks like im a few thousand apart.

horus 2009-11-25 20:25

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
There should be no direct correlation between fully charging a battery to boot into an OS and the success/failure of that for which a microphone works.

People should be whinging to Nokia considerable amounts / threaten to tell popular news blogs sites, et cetera et cetera. Make them do their damn jobs.

Laughing Man 2009-11-25 20:28

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Yeah this is something basic. Very very basic.

jsharper 2009-11-25 20:42

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
What type of mic is it? If it's a mic that needs a DC current, maybe someone loaded the parts placement machine backwards and some of them got placed with the wrong polarity?

MrGrim 2009-11-25 20:52

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsharper (Post 392314)
What type of mic is it? If it's a mic that needs a DC current, maybe someone loaded the parts placement machine backwards and some of them got placed with the wrong polarity?

That's pretty much irrelevant, assuming no one wants to open the device and re-solder the mic (if this turns out to be the problem, which i doubt).
If it's hardware, i'm afraid there really is only one solution: return

maemoexperts 2009-11-25 21:13

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Does anyone have any problems with TV Out ? because that doesn't work for me either.

pwannell 2009-11-25 21:15

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
bloody hell maemo your having some problems.....:-(

hypnotik 2009-11-25 21:20

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemoexperts (Post 392381)
Does anyone have any problems with TV Out ? because that doesn't work for me either.

I'll test it out as soon as my girlfriend finishes watching a movie on the TV. I'll load up a vid onto it in the mean time. some peep show season 6 maybe.

Devil 2009-11-25 21:21

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwannell (Post 392388)
bloody hell maemo your having some problems.....:-(

yes.. i am getting mine as well but still in doubt. also because of these failures im reading on the forum.

could anyone create a POLL in a new topic (i don't know how to create a poll) with the options "works perfectly out of the box, no problems", "hardware issue", "software issue" or whatever seems appropriate to the poster. (maybe also the option: works perfect but unhappy with performance/didnt live up to expectations by far)

i would like to see percentages of how many people are experiencing problems. this might be a good way to sum these up.

grtngz devil

tanekray 2009-11-25 21:30

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 392264)
I called 08450455555 i of to pub with lads now am sure i will get the piZZ take about this phone anyway cu later good luck.

Yep, you probably will ;) I rave on about the phone, and no-one else I know has even heard of it, so I would be :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o to get a broken one too.
Lets hope these clever ppl here can come up with a solution which saves sending it back.

hypnotik 2009-11-25 21:31

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 392397)
yes.. i am getting mine as well but still in doubt. also because of these failures im reading on the forum.

could anyone create a POLL in a new topic (i don't know how to create a poll) with the options "works perfectly out of the box, no problems", "hardware issue", "software issue" or whatever seems appropriate to the poster. (maybe also the option: works perfect but unhappy with performance/didnt live up to expectations by far)

i would like to see percentages of how many people are experiencing problems. this might be a good way to sum these up.

grtngz devil

I created this poll if anyone cares:

http://www.doodle.com/k7bpug7bawdh9k92

I suggest we put in our username's if people are interested (to prevent ballot stuffing - this forum's polls are prone to ballot stuffing). Edit: added a few more poll options.

FC_ 2009-11-25 21:33

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
There are a few people in The Netherlands, including me, who are having the same problem. I returned mine to Nokia today. My serial number is *6792.

I also had the same problem as the guy in this thread, and fixed it by reflashing with the eMMC rom. And then found out the microphone was broken :(

Venomrush 2009-11-25 21:42

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FC_ (Post 392425)
There are a few people in The Netherlands, including me, who are having the same problem. I returned mine to Nokia today. My serial number is xxxxxxxxxxxxx.

I also had the same problem as the guy in this thread, and fixed it by reflashing with the eMMC rom. And then found out the microphone was broken :(

What problem are u referring too?
mic defect?

FC_ 2009-11-25 21:45

Re: N900 no mic audio
 
Yes, that's what the name of this thread is referring to isn't it :)


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