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cman74 2007-01-07 22:25

Re: The Nokia N800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 27979)
What in the name of the Seventh Hell is that blotch on the bottom left side of the screen?

It's the tab that you pull to take the clear screen protector off. Still have mine on until I order a proper screen protector.

Karel Jansens 2007-01-07 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cman74 (Post 27981)
It's the tab that you pull to take the clear screen protector off. Still have mine on until I order a proper screen protector.

Oh, good. From the video it looked like one of those "self portrait mirrors" many camera cell phones have and I've been trying to think up new names[*] to describe the stupidity of the designer who thought that was a good idea...
____
[*] "Aaaargghh! you stupid f**kface!!!" was the best I could think of sofar.

phi 2007-01-07 23:03

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So anyone wanna post a video on how slow or fast it handles youtube/google video?

flareup 2007-01-07 23:05

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heads up - previous link works, nokia europe in stock and taking orders at 269 quid. I think I was the first on here to ask about what became known as WSOD so wish me luck!!!

Milhouse 2007-01-07 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phi (Post 27986)
So anyone wanna post a video on how slow or fast it handles youtube/google video?

Why not try following the link in post #55 of this very thread? :)

phi 2007-01-07 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 27988)
Why not try following the link in post #55 of this very thread? :)

oops, i missed that, thanks! :)

imrahil 2007-01-07 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flareup (Post 27987)
heads up - previous link works, nokia europe in stock and taking orders at 269 quid. I think I was the first on here to ask about what became known as WSOD so wish me luck!!!

grrr... still not in Poland :P
and why that expensive?! 399 euro?! it's about $520 ! !

Milhouse 2007-01-07 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flareup (Post 27987)
heads up - previous link works, nokia europe in stock and taking orders at 269 quid. I think I was the first on here to ask about what became known as WSOD so wish me luck!!!

Have also just placed an order for £269 with free shipping! :) I ordered one of the first 770's back in November 2005 (price: £245) and it's been fault free in all that time so not too worried about being one of the first again.

This works out at $519 / €399 so still pretty expensive when compared to the $400 in US but no doubt due to the exceptionally good GBP/USD exchange rate.

Can't really complain too much when the new device is costing only £24 more than the old one!

sveinan 2007-01-07 23:32

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Just posted order for Norway. Price in shopping cart: €335. But that is without VAT (Norway -> outside EU).

BTW, link to use for shopping (know it is further back, but maybe some others are to lazy):

saxen 2007-01-08 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sveinan (Post 27992)
Just posted order for Norway. Price in shopping cart: €335. But that is without VAT (Norway -> outside EU).

BTW, link to use for shopping (know it is further back, but maybe some others are to lazy):

great news mate...:)

SeRi@lDiE 2007-01-08 00:16

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Nope... no spoon in North Houston. And they are not willing to transfer one from another store. CompUSA sux.

Texrat 2007-01-08 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 27984)
Oh, good. From the video it looked like one of those "self portrait mirrors" many camera cell phones have and I've been trying to think up new names[*] to describe the stupidity of the designer who thought that was a good idea...
____
[*] "Aaaargghh! you stupid f**kface!!!" was the best I could think of sofar.

I gave you guys hints a long time ago about that. :p

jayholler 2007-01-08 00:27

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yeah, no luck here at the Parsippany NJ store either. i'm going to keep trying until i can pick one up though.

Texrat 2007-01-08 00:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 27978)
A penny for that showstopper of yours ? :-)

The distance between the two sets of buttons. It was too easy with the 770 to press Undo/Back/Cancel when trying to press the Down direction button instead.

Beefy6969 2007-01-08 00:29

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Cheapest I found online for a 8GB SD = $99. I'll just wait until someone on here confirm that the N800 will accept this.

xnio333x 2007-01-08 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jayholler (Post 27997)
yeah, no luck here at the Parsippany NJ store either. i'm going to keep trying until i can pick one up though.


no dice at the springfield,nj store either,but i managed to pick one up at the edison store.

i also have a samsung q1b thats supposed to be here on tuesday. one of these must go back or the wife will leave me :(

Bernard 2007-01-08 00:40

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Can anybody tell me what the battery life is of the new N800?
Nokia normally does a good job at that, so it probably won't be that different from the 770, but I'd like to know for sure.

Furthermore were is this new tablet made? I read that the prototype was made in Korea, is the final one also?

How is the stability? I hated the crashes of the 770, and I hope it is ironed out in the new OS.

What IS running on this OS? Internet Tablet 2007? Will it also be available for the Nokia 770? That would we helpful for me in order to test stability.
But Nokia doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to long term support, so I wouldn't at all be surprised if the new OS would be N800 only. THAT would suck, especially if they ended support and OS updates for the 770 from now on. That would also make me think twice about geting a N800. A product that has 14 months of support from Nokia is rather expensive at 400 euros.
But Nokia also does that with their Symbian phones. A lot of/most software that is developed for the latest S60 third edition does not work on second or first edition, and there is no update for the OS on the phones.
I really hope Nokia changes its ways on the Tablets.

So it pretty much comes down to the new OS. They should release the update for the 770. And after I installed it on the 770 and concluded that it is finally stable, than I'll buy a new N800 for myself and recommend all of my friend to get one as well.

onpaws 2007-01-08 00:47

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It runs 2007 software.

johsua 2007-01-08 00:50

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from http://maemo.org/downloads/releases.html:

You cannot flash your old Nokia 770 device with the new OS 2007 Edition. More details available from maemo 2.1 and 3.0 compatibility page.

hmmm...

wls 2007-01-08 01:02

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found on the maemo.org site some interesting info on the N800 in their FAQ
One tidbit
The cpu is a TI omap2420 processor running at 330mhz
here is the link to an explanation of it's processor
http://dspvillage.ti.com/pdfs/omap2architecture.pdf
This is one nice chip and we are getting the deluxe version with enhanced video capabilities. SWEET!

daverod 2007-01-08 01:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andras (Post 27965)
Can anyone that has an N800 in their hands post whether or not there is some form of headset functionality, either via BT or wired? Just something other than holding the unit against the side of your head?

Thanks!

I got one! woohoo!

It comes with a wired headset, just like the 770. I can't find anything in the bluetooth settings to indicate it can pair with a BT headset. Unfortunately, I lost my BT headset on friday. I won't know for sure until I find it.

Rocketman 2007-01-08 01:04

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I just got a N800 from a certain store in Bellevue, WA. At first, they told me they didn't have them in stock. I had them go in back to check if they had just arrived and sure enough they were in the back. The manager told me I couldn't have one for a few days though. I did a little huffing and hawing. On my way out, an employee asked about buying my 770 and we came to terms. I left and thought I would be gone a few days. I got a call back from the employee and he met me in the store with a box, ran me through the checkout and I walked out of the store with my N800 a few days early :)

Best thing so far:

- SUPPORTS BLUETOOTH KEYBOARDS OUT OF THE BOX!

Worst thing:

- The buttons are way too small and feel cheap. The front rocker and tripple button have some play to them. I am pretty upset about this, frankly, as this is a major downgrade from the quality of construction and useability of the 770. I think there is enough new functionality and speed improvements to keep me from returning it, but I am not at all happy.

onpaws 2007-01-08 01:09

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for those who are finding difficulty in picking one up, try other salespeople. the salesperson i worked with, didn't mind bending the rules to earn a little commission on the device...

xnio333x 2007-01-08 02:17

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i'm not sure if anyone picked up on this, but it looks like the flash player is version 7. with regards to youtube, i noticed that when i loered the video quality and increased the amount of info flash can store on the device, the viideo playback was alot smoother. hope this helps.

Bernard 2007-01-08 03:11

Re: The Nokia N800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johsua (Post 28007)
from http://maemo.org/downloads/releases.html:

You cannot flash your old Nokia 770 device with the new OS 2007 Edition. More details available from maemo 2.1 and 3.0 compatibility page.

hmmm...

I HATE NOKIA! so no OS2007 for the 770. that is jut so typical nokia.
i wonder when the next tablet will be released, and end support for the n800

Texrat 2007-01-08 03:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onpaws (Post 28017)
for those who are finding difficulty in picking one up, try other salespeople. the salesperson i worked with, didn't mind bending the rules to earn a little commission on the device...

Again: any developers why buy early are cheating themselves. The developer discount has already been announced on maemo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard (Post 28028)
I HATE NOKIA! so no OS2007 for the 770. that is jut so typical nokia.
i wonder when the next tablet will be released, and end support for the n800

Putting OS 2007 on the 770 would be analogous to installing Windows Vista on a Tandy 1000.

Viipottaja 2007-01-08 03:42

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Bernard, stop *****ing. ;) Probably it would not work on N770 anyway, and would in any case overwhelm it as Texrat points out.

Ok, the official press release is now out too:
www.mobileburn.com
www.phonescoop.com

ps. that N76 looks weird... but whatever.. if people want Razr clones, no matter how ugly the original was, they shall have them.. lol.. Well, perhaps it looks better once I see it for myself. At least Nokia has packed it with decent features.. but N75 looks still much better to me.

Texrat 2007-01-08 04:12

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I've held an early version of the N76... I was impressed.

phi 2007-01-08 04:18

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3 hours of battery life?! they couldn't have put a stronger battery in?

Texrat 2007-01-08 04:20

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Originally Posted by phi (Post 28037)
3 hours of battery life?! they couldn't have put a stronger battery in?

3 hours continuous internet usage. 10 hours standby. Normal usage will lie somewhere in between (I hear 6 hours a lot). Same battery the 770 used.

phi 2007-01-08 04:27

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i figure faster cpu + 2 memory slots would eat up a lot of power. besides, shouldn't the battery be beefed up by now anyway?

dcarter 2007-01-08 04:40

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has anyone been able to make the thinkoutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard work with the N800 OS2007? I can't....

Oh, and as I can readily confirm that gnumeric, mplayer, doom (with cool wads), and abiword all install (mplayer wouldn't play the onboard demo video correctly though), and that I would need to uninstall debconf to make maemomapper work, I think it is safe to say that 2006 N770 users will still be a part of the software base of 2007 N800 programming.

And who cares about stupid VGA functionality, anyways??

dcarter

Texrat 2007-01-08 05:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phi (Post 28041)
i figure faster cpu + 2 memory slots would eat up a lot of power. besides, shouldn't the battery be beefed up by now anyway?

How big and heavy a battery do you want?

I think increased emphasis on power efficiency would make more sense.

johsua 2007-01-08 06:09

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The nokiausa site has the n800 up for ordering:

http://www.nokiausa.com/N800

uNtouched 2007-01-08 06:34

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You know what I'd actually be willing to Ship these things if it meant that the Euro/UK people saved a grip of money, because I think that's BS that they would get charged more.

Fidibus 2007-01-08 07:09

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Hi,

gives any new Versions from Opera (Browser) and Adobe (Flash) for the N800 ?

Thanks for your information :)

Fidibus

Jaykie 2007-01-08 08:02

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Not sure if this is old news but seems like Skype is coming for N800 also.

Edit:

I removed a link because I'm not sure if it's only available for press.


Jaykie

benny1967 2007-01-08 08:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaykie (Post 28059)
Not sure if this is old news but seems like Skype is coming for N800 also.

This is, in fact, bad news. The Maeomo platform should be about free solutions and Nokia should have put more effort in SIP-enabling the 770 in the first place. Skype is non-free software and shouldn't be part of a standard software set for any Maemo-based device.

Batnun 2007-01-08 08:21

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In stock now...

Just ordered from Nokia store:
http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N800

Have fun!
Batnun

idangazit 2007-01-08 08:21

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ARRRRGH!! :mad:

I saw the leaked FCC docs but it sounded like the N800 would only be released sometime in 2007, so I bought a 770, barely three weeks ago, thinking that I'd value having the device for the next half a year more than I would value having the latest and greatest, but only in half a year. Plus they started on a marketing drive with ads for the 770! I should have known it for what it was: them trying to clear out their existing stock before launching the new toy. It simply reeks of the ugliest behavior. Not illegal, just unethical.

This is so maddening. They couldn't let customers know that they were just about to obsolete the "new" hardware they were buying? That the new OS would not be backwards compatible? That the kinds of applications I really miss on the 770 (skype) would not be made available for the 770? I feel like I bought an expensive tool that nobody will be developing for anymore because the new OS is not backwards / API compatible, and (let's face it) -- nobody develops new toys for the old target.

Of course, no mention of trade-up program in sight. I hate it when corporatios pull stunts like this -- I know there are a lot of people for whom $350 is no big deal, but when I plunk that kind of cash down I want to know that I'm getting something with some future development lifetime in it, and not something that is 2 seconds away from obsoletion. I am not about to spend another $400.

Just to be clear, it's not that I think the 770 is useless. I love it, with some quirks. I just hate discovering that my machine is EOL two minutes after buying it. I feel like nokia just defecated on me. Even microsoft has trade-up programs when they are about to release new versions of software, where they give you a coupon to get Vista or whatever is the next thing to come out (yeah, I know that it's software vs. hardware, but it's just an example).

Sign. /endrant.

-I


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