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joppu 2010-01-02 00:40

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Before you test any loading times, remember to purge the whole cache.

Laughing Man 2010-01-02 00:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 449411)
With Near Me, I drag my finger from dead area of the 900, on the "right", onto active area of the screen. This pulls up the menu bar, where Near Me has an icon (picture of the little house above the "settings" button)...click on it, and its "interface" opens. You can click on the preset searches "coffee, pizza, libraries, etc", or just type in your own.

You may be getting location wrong via "IP" becuase it seems like T-Mo has regional APNs. Internet2.voicestream.com has me making "speedtests" somewhere in Kansas. epc.tmobile.com gets closer, but its somewhere in New Jersey...I'm in Maryland.

Thanks, Verizon DSL seems to put me in Texas. While using whatever default APN for TMobile won't work at all.

Oh well, maybe someone will make an add-on for Fennec that specifically targets the N900's GPS.

colnago 2010-01-02 01:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 449426)
...Oh well, maybe someone will make an add-on for Fennec that specifically targets the N900's GPS.

But what I'm saying is that the "Near Me" plugin, locates me down to my street and house number...it even asks permission to have access. Its the one part that actually runs quickly for the browser.

lovemov 2010-01-02 03:14

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In most cases, firefox is much slower, however, there are some sites that microb doesn't work proper but works perfect on firefox.

chase15 2010-01-02 03:29

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in edge network... microB loads faster than fennec....

svanheulen 2010-01-02 03:30

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Just tested RC1 for about 20 minutes and 3 major things jump out at me immediately.
  1. No way to search on a page
  2. No way to save images
  3. No way to open a link in a new tab

Also, I see firmware 2.2009.51-1 mentioned a few times in this thread... how do I get that?

Laughing Man 2010-01-02 03:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 449448)
But what I'm saying is that the "Near Me" plugin, locates me down to my street and house number...it even asks permission to have access. Its the one part that actually runs quickly for the browser.

Huh, I really don't know what's causing this then. When you turn on Near Me does it activate the GPS for you? I turn it on (when it access to share my location) and I ctrl+backspace out and look for the GPS icon and it doesn't activate.

colnago 2010-01-02 04:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 449506)
Huh, I really don't know what's causing this then. When you turn on Near Me does it activate the GPS for you? I turn it on (when it access to share my location) and I ctrl+backspace out and look for the GPS icon and it doesn't activate.

Why not just "use it" instead of trying to confirm?

:p

Is it not finding things "Near you"? Finds me just fine, but again, the results list is sorely lacking (only 4-5 results, though it seems like the search radius is up to 20miles :confused:).

Laughing Man 2010-01-02 04:01

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Well using it isn't helpful since I'm not in TX. I'm in MD like you. =P

colnago 2010-01-02 04:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovemov (Post 449497)
In most cases, firefox is much slower, however, there are some sites that microb doesn't work proper but works perfect on firefox.

It looks like the only browser to load XM radio's "online player" correctly, sort of, but it doesn't actually "play". It takes 4-5 minutes to load via WiFi connection on FIOS circuit.

colnago 2010-01-02 04:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 449524)
Well using it isn't helpful since I'm not in TX. I'm in MD like you. =P

So then its not finding your position "to the street"?

:)

What about the Location settings for the phone itself? Is GPS all active?

Laughing Man 2010-01-02 04:06

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Yup, GPS is active. I've even tried using Fennec when I have Nokia Maps on. It keeps throwing me to Texas. =(

colnago 2010-01-02 04:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 449528)
Yup, GPS is active. I've even tried using Fennec when I have Nokia Maps on. It keeps throwing me to Texas. =(

That's not right.

:p

I don't know...maybe check your location settings for "Google"? Maybe try to reset that...and/or uninstall that first "location" app?

Laughing Man 2010-01-02 04:34

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I've uninstalled geolocation, and I even uninstalled Fennec. No such luck, off to consult Google for this issue. Maybe somebody else has this issue.

It's not just Google. It's Flickr, any site that can find your location. Even Near Me. It's... odd.

Can anyone confirm if Fennec even uses the N900's GPS at all? For those of you getting an accurate address are you on WiFi or a cellular data plan?


Edit: By default, Firefox uses Google Location Services to determine your location by sending:
Quote:

* your computer’s IP address,
* information about the nearby wireless access points, and
* a random client identifier, which is assigned by Google, that expires every 2 weeks.

Milhouse 2010-01-02 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by svanheulen (Post 449504)
Also, I see firmware 2.2009.51-1 mentioned a few times in this thread... how do I get that?

It's a limited release made available to those active in bugzilla.maemo.org - not for wider distribution. See PR1.1 thread.

aldevil 2010-01-02 13:36

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a question for the people who tried the beta is it ok for a noob like me to try it or does it have alot of problems?

Laughing Man 2010-01-04 01:36

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So more info.

Seems it only reports me in Texas if I use my home Verizon DSL. At my girlfriend's apartment this weekend I used her Verizon FIOS connection and it correctly put me in MD (not exactly same street but same city).

Oddly when using it on TMobile Internet it doesn't seem to work at all.

jaeezzy 2010-01-04 01:54

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just downloaded firefox from firefox.com/m in my n810 and loving to have kinetic scrolling and double tap to zoom(discovered so far :)). It takes a little longer than inbuilt browser but reasonable with all those extra features in it. However, though javascript is enabled (according to settings) webpages still says "javascript must be enabled ....." and can't play flash. Am I missing something here? Thanks

Flandry 2010-01-04 03:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 451973)
Seems it only reports me in Texas if I use my home Verizon DSL. At my girlfriend's apartment this weekend I used her Verizon FIOS connection and it correctly put me in MD (not exactly same street but same city).

Oddly when using it on TMobile Internet it doesn't seem to work at all.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7057

Try changing the suplicant server to google's and see if it fixes it? At least that would confirm one of the causes.

Laughing Man 2010-01-04 03:18

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I'll go ahead and try but the GPS works normally (with applications that use the GPS in the default browser (with the geolocation add-on like maemaps) and Ovi Maps work fine. Digital camera tagging works fine so it's not the fix acquiring that I'm having problems with. Unless Fennec uses solely that information and nothing about the GPS at all (that tidbit I read about geolocation seems to say Google estimates it based on your wireless router's position).

Edit: Tried it, it made no difference. WiFi (Verizon DSL) still reports Texas. Switching to TMobile internet results it it not being able to find your location (just keeps going and going).

How dissapointing. This was one of the things I was looking forward to Fennec. Hopefully it's just an odd bug that will be fixed in a final release.

ivanzorkic 2010-01-04 03:56

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Well, I'm a total newb when it comes to this kind of thing, so don't mind the noobish question: is it reasonable to expect a speed increase and better response overall with the full version? I know all of you guys are talking about better performance in the final product, but I'm just wondering how much can we really expect, considering the rich set of features and the fact that we get a whole little app catalogue built into the browser with the add-ons? It would be incredibly awesome to have a smooth ride when the real thing comes.

It was mentioned here that some pages that don't load as they should in Micro B work well in Firefox - well, as a big Blizzard fan I was kind of disappointed that their main website doesn't display properly in Micro B (the main section of the site - done in Flash - doesn't load) - I'm happy to report that it works well in FF and that the face of the big SC2 marine greets you in all its.... erm, splendor? :)

Bratag 2010-01-04 04:11

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Blizzard.com loads fine for me in microb, took a few seconds to render the marine. Flame effects on the diablo 3 page etc all fine.

ivanzorkic 2010-01-04 04:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 452062)
Blizzard.com loads fine for me in microb, took a few seconds to render the marine. Flame effects on the diablo 3 page etc all fine.

You're right! Didn't load the first time I used it (and I did wait a while), but now it does. Well, ignore the last paragraph of my previous post then :)

Thanks for the correction.

brianm 2010-01-04 13:48

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Too slow, reverting to microB

voracity 2010-01-06 04:19

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Does turning the disk cache off help anyone with speed in RC1?

See:

http://stechz.com/2010/make-your-fennec-rc1-fast-again/

mysticrokks 2010-01-06 04:43

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its really nice but abit slow. this is vital for me even if it isnt optimised. i need to see full browser google adds. this is great.

goodfellabk718 2010-01-06 04:49

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@voracity

"Does turning the disk cache off help anyone with speed in RC1?

See:

http://stechz.com/2010/make-your-fennec-rc1-fast-again/"


Just now tried that, did nothing, still slow

mysticrokks 2010-01-06 04:57

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err i spoke to soon after installing i got two random reboots. so uninstalled.... get it stable firefox

ivanzorkic 2010-01-06 07:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voracity (Post 455119)
Does turning the disk cache off help anyone with speed in RC1?

See:

http://stechz.com/2010/make-your-fennec-rc1-fast-again/

Sadly, I didn't notice any speed increase after turning it off. It still has trouble panning pages smoothly most of the time, the sidebars (for tabs and /favs/back/forward) are sluggish, and the general performance seems quite low.

And, yea, it seems like most of the performance hit occurs during page loading, so I'm surprised that the abovementioned "solution" doesn't work (at least for me) as it is supposed to address that issue.

maacruz 2010-01-06 16:43

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It does help, at least in the N810

anapospastos 2010-01-06 17:56

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@voracity

"Does turning the disk cache off help anyone with speed in RC1?

Surely it helps:cool:

gbraad 2010-01-06 23:14

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installed and tried... what I like most is the Mozilla Weave integration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/4234868269/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/4235651702/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/4242180327/. In the images it is shown running on the Maemo platform (N810 and screenshot of N900). The result is identical of course. The last image show that tabs are synced across systems. Besides this functionality it does NOT give any benefit above the standard MicroB browser (also Firefox-based). As soon the CouchDB (or Midgard) sync is integrated... or Mozilla Weave gets released as a MicroB extension, I see NO need to have it installed on my device.

DaKing 2010-01-07 23:47

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i dont freaking understand anything were is the final version of firefox not beta s i mean when will it be released its still always betta !!

hangster 2010-01-08 23:08

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firefox rc2 just came out.

Pogi 2010-01-08 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hangster (Post 460250)
firefox rc2 just came out.

still slow!!!!!!!!!!

salah99 2010-01-08 23:40

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I couldn't find rc2 download link!

vode 2010-01-08 23:54

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Edit: never mind :)

NvyUs 2010-01-08 23:56

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its lot faster than RC1 its just as fast as MicroB now maybe even faster on certain sites.

Keir 2010-01-09 00:06

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still takes too long to load/open the browser itself.

chainreaction 2010-01-09 00:10

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According to the repository, it does not seem to be rc2. It says version 1.0.0. Works better, but still a bit choppy. A lot faster when the page is loaded. Btw, I am writing this with firefox 1.0.0 at the moment. I have to say that I prefer MicroB more though as this is still a bit slow at times.


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