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vgerstorm 2010-02-06 14:55

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetut (Post 512585)
this changes nothing for me, i still get waiting for phone, tried every possible combination of connecting and all the suggestions in this thread and many others, nokia map loader just dont work with my n900 on vista32, but it does with my n97, ive actually got all the map data on my n900 just copied the cities folder from n97 to n900, but id rather maploader did it, as the maps app keeps giving me 'cant download data' warnings, when it dont need to download any data, cos the map is already displayed on my screen?
and ive got no voice directions, ill dump it for sygic when that is ready for release, due to the nightmare ive had with n900/maploader

I had the same problem with "waiting for phone" on the map loader and the n900. The problem was that the Nokia PC suite was still running; once I exited the Nokia PC suite application (be certain to exit also on the icon on the systray) then the map loader worked fine.

leetut 2010-02-06 15:38

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
bingo! it worked first time! mucho thanks for that info mate

jlacombe 2010-02-07 08:50

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyhertz (Post 494380)
Found a way to make Nokia Map Loader work in Win 7 64-bit.

Discussion in other thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=46

Please post comments to confirm this works. Thanks!


Green light on this method for Win 7 64.

Much Thanks

oskarmat 2010-02-18 16:48

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiptronic (Post 490585)
On Windows 7, you can use the virtual OS program "XP Mode" (Available from microsoft website). Thats the only way.

problem is that only works with ultimate and business editions of W7

oskarmat 2010-02-18 16:52

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyhertz (Post 494380)
Found a way to make Nokia Map Loader work in Win 7 64-bit.

Discussion in other thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=46

Please post comments to confirm this works. Thanks!

so, you need an SD card to make it work? what if i don't have one

Tex14 2010-02-18 17:14

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
How do you turn on your GPS? what settings do you use, I enabled it and it is still showing no reception

rocky272727 2010-02-18 17:59

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Doesn t work.....running on win 7 32bit running maps application in xp comp mode and phone in mass storage mode it is not able to detect the phone

Kian 2010-02-19 01:47

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex14 (Post 534818)
How do you turn on your GPS? what settings do you use, I enabled it and it is still showing no reception

same problem. do i have to connect to internet to get located? 'cause when i'm on the road, it often shows "no gps signal".. even if i have the map

fred123 2010-02-19 02:04

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
This might help people with map loader problems

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=46

Also works for vista 32bit, using pcsuite mode on n900

flydeep 2010-02-19 02:56

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
a related google maps question:

I have been playing little with google maps and seem to like it. Looks like it is the best alternative for now. In the hover mode, you can double tap to zoom in.

But is there a way to zoom out of the map? I couldn't find an option to do that.

b666m 2010-02-19 03:07

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
just click on + or - ?!
(not in manipulation/cursor mode)

clasificado 2010-02-19 14:13

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
It works! here windows xp sp3

Thanks a lot

flydeep 2010-02-21 05:30

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
i have tried various possibilities, i, o, -, + both in hover mode and regular. cannot control the zoom option for mobile google maps in microb. has anyone actually used it and works for them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by b666m (Post 535814)
just click on + or - ?!
(not in manipulation/cursor mode)


slewis1972 2010-02-21 09:54

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Hi
I am trying to locate the .qf file in the root directory to no avail. Can anyone help as need to get it to work on windows 7.

Thanks

Scott

msa 2010-02-21 10:34

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
i have a some questions:

i checked the cities-folders on my n900 (its on the device itself, not on the sd-card), and its around 600 mb.
i downloaded the maps i need (germany for me), and unzipped, they are about 300 mb.
so what should i do? i turned off internet (and set it so that the device always asks me whether it should connect or not) and started maps - after dismissing all the internetconnection-requests, maps still would load and show all the german maps.
so i already have the maps i need? how do i find out?
but its still trying to connect to the internet - why? i saw that i couldnt search for streets when planning a route when i wasnt connected to the internet. so a internetconnection is definitely required even if all the maps are saved on the device?

bunanson 2010-02-21 23:24

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kian (Post 535754)
same problem. do i have to connect to internet to get located? 'cause when i'm on the road, it often shows "no gps signal".. even if i have the map

No. You do not have to connect to get gps lock.

For US location,
Setting>Location>check Enable and change Location server: to supl.google.com:7276>Save
For non US location, ask in this thread. I do not know ther server.

Install eCoach.

When NOT connect, open eCoach>New activity> will help to secure gps lock faster for a cool lock
When Not connect, click the power button on location will help to secure gps lock faster for a warm lock.

Go out to the sky is always the best way to get gps lock

bun

maxximuscool 2010-02-21 23:28

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Try Location-test application in Devel. Still for testing purpose and get GPS lock though. Worked great on mine and i used it all the time to get GPS lock with OVI map without A-GPS

bunanson 2010-02-21 23:30

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 539482)
...but its still trying to connect to the internet - why? i saw that i couldnt search for streets when planning a route when i wasnt connected to the internet. so a internetconnection is definitely required even if all the maps are saved on the device?

The ONLY way to stop the internet connection request is to remove the sim card :( . If anybody finds out some better way, PLEASE POST!

To use the search function for route, you need to be connected. However, you can search for your destination when online, and save it on the map. And then when OFF line in a car or on the street, you can make route connection from point A to point B as long as you have the saved destination on map. Correct, you need the internet for search, you DO NOT need the internet to use route. I have route to guide me many times.

I know it is a little bit tricky, well, still better than not there.


bun

maxximuscool 2010-02-21 23:53

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 540276)
The ONLY way to stop the internet connection request is to remove the sim card :( . If anybody finds out some better way, PLEASE POST!

To use the search function for route, you need to be connected. However, you can search for your destination when online, and save it on the map. And then when OFF line in a car or on the street, you can make route connection from point A to point B as long as you have the saved destination on map. Correct, you need the internet for search, you DO NOT need the internet to use route. I have route to guide me many times.

I know it is a little bit tricky, well, still better than not there.


bun

Setting->Location->Network Position [ ] -> Save
Reboot the device.

This would helped if you are using 42.11 firmware but in the latest firmware it still asking, but less prompting.

Also:

Setting ->Internet Connections ->Always Ask
This to preventing any data usage while running GPS.

slewis1972 2010-02-23 11:12

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Anyone know if creating a symlink from current map location to a location on sd card has any issues like speed etc?

If so, anyone dont it?

Scott

bunanson 2010-02-23 18:40

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slewis1972 (Post 542440)
Anyone know if creating a symlink from current map location to a location on sd card has any issues like speed etc?

If so, anyone dont it?

Scott

hoe big is your SD card?

bun

david.hicks 2010-02-26 22:15

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Long time listener first time caller etc etc...

Just got map download to work on Win7 Ultimate x64 without even having the phone plugged in.

1. Install Map Downloader. I have version 3.0.28.0
2. Copy from the MyDocs directory on the phone the ".qf" file and the "cities" subdirectory
3. Dump in the root dir of an external USB hard disk or thumb drive
4. Copy the .qf file to qf as well, just to be sure
5. Run up maps

I did this to both my external hard drive and a thumb drive at the same time and the app gave me the option of using either. It repoted free space wrong but it did then update the maps I already had and allow me to download more.

It's currently in progress, next step will be to copy the folders back to the device.

bunanson 2010-03-01 03:32

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Just found another trick: To stop the ovi map from spinning.

The spinning comes from clicking the orange icon. Once touch the icon orange to get your current location in view, then click the icon compass (circle with arrow and N) and set N to whatever you want and touch anywhere on the map to minimize the compass, now the map will stay in that orientation till you touch the orange icon again. You can manually follow your own track, orientation stays the same and would not change.


bun

yanness 2010-03-06 19:43

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlacombe (Post 514084)
Green light on this method for Win 7 64.

Much Thanks

Hi there,

I can confirm that this method worked for me.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=46

I had the same problem on Vista 32 bits:
changed the Map loader .exe to work as XP mode,
connected phone in Mass storage mode,
later connected phone in PC suite mode..... and nothing. :(

Solution on Vista 32 bits:
I tried the method on the above link and it worked out.
I actually copy the .qf on my desktop (you need to enable show hidden files and folders in the Folder and search option of your PC),
rename it as qf,
and put it back into the phone root,
tried the phone in PC Suite mode and it worked.

Good luck with yours. :)

Yanness

on3st4b 2010-03-07 05:59

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
hi every1 , i have windows 7 64 bit and im facing a problem with the ovi map loader ..
it doesnt " see " the phone .
i tried to follow the steps some users posted , but i cant find the file .qf
i tryed finding it from the pc , and using midnight comander ..

rsegerda@sina.com 2010-03-07 08:06

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on3st4b (Post 558434)
hi every1 , i have windows 7 64 bit and im facing a problem with the ovi map loader ..
it doesnt " see " the phone .
i tried to follow the steps some users posted , but i cant find the file .qf
i tryed finding it from the pc , and using midnight comander ..

old problem.
check the old replies

aiyaznz 2010-03-07 08:39

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I downloaded the ovi maps on n900 using my mac and it worked n all but the problem i have with this is that 1 it still uses internet for all the point of interests, searches and that it doesnt have a re route calculation if you use another route to get to a destination.

rocky272727 2010-03-07 11:15

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Hi,

Have Win 7 and this link solved my problem. Latest Maps loaded.

Excellent.

http://mymaemo.com/c/map-loader-for-...n900-1022.html

sophocha 2010-03-07 11:35

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on3st4b (Post 558434)
hi every1 , i have windows 7 64 bit and im facing a problem with the ovi map loader ..
it doesnt " see " the phone .
i tried to follow the steps some users posted , but i cant find the file .qf
i tryed finding it from the pc , and using midnight comander ..

I`ve installed win7 64bit on my pc for only a day.I realised that 64bit isn`t for me cause of incompatibilities with EVERY SOFTWARE AROUND!stick with 32bit.It`s times like this that you wished you installed 32bit :)

tokuro 2010-03-08 01:35

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 558622)
I`ve installed win7 64bit on my pc for only a day.I realised that 64bit isn`t for me cause of incompatibilities with EVERY SOFTWARE AROUND!stick with 32bit.It`s times like this that you wished you installed 32bit :)

that's unfortunate.. but i have it working all ok with win7 x64.

maemo55555@yahoo.cn 2010-03-08 02:44

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tokuro (Post 559343)
that's unfortunate.. but i have it working all ok with win7 x64.

n900 can work on windows 7 64bit

on3st4b 2010-03-08 18:26

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsegerda@sina.com (Post 558498)
old problem.
check the old replies

thnx for the reply ..
helpfull it was ...
NOT !
anyways , i reflashed the phone , formated the memory card ,
and as soon as it booted i runned the ovi maps .
the cities folder was created alright , but stil cant find the .qf !!
i tried looking in mydocks and cities/diskcache but nothing .
i have turned the hidden files & folder to visible , also tryed
cp /home/user/MyDocs/.qf /home/user/Mydocs/qf
and i got the following msg : no such file or directory

hayman 2010-03-13 13:31

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on3st4b (Post 560299)
thnx for the reply ..
helpfull it was ...
NOT !
anyways , i reflashed the phone , formated the memory card ,
and as soon as it booted i runned the ovi maps .
the cities folder was created alright , but stil cant find the .qf !!
i tried looking in mydocks and cities/diskcache but nothing .
i have turned the hidden files & folder to visible , also tryed
cp /home/user/MyDocs/.qf /home/user/Mydocs/qf
and i got the following msg : no such file or directory

same as above.. please help

tuvata 2010-03-13 14:14

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yanness (Post 558100)
Hi there,

I can confirm that this method worked for me.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=46

I had the same problem on Vista 32 bits:
changed the Map loader .exe to work as XP mode,
connected phone in Mass storage mode,
later connected phone in PC suite mode..... and nothing. :(

Solution on Vista 32 bits:
I tried the method on the above link and it worked out.
I actually copy the .qf on my desktop (you need to enable show hidden files and folders in the Folder and search option of your PC),
rename it as qf,
and put it back into the phone root,
tried the phone in PC Suite mode and it worked.

Good luck with yours. :)

Yanness


Hi,
Could you please tell me how to do that copying of the .qf file? I already tried an other method and entered in X Terminal the command cp /home/user/MyDocs/.qf /home/user/MyDocs/qf

Got following reply: cannot stat .qf no such file or directory

So that didn't really help. I'm using vista 32. I also have win 7 on other laptop, but wasn't able to load the maploader on it as it already uses Ovi instead of pc-suite.

I'd really appreciate if someone could help me with this.

Dazzla 2010-03-14 11:33

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo55555@yahoo.cn (Post 559375)
n900 can work on windows 7 64bit

Yep no luck with me as well so just ran Virtual Windows XP and installed with no problems worked perfectly.

vishisback 2010-03-17 18:46

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuvata (Post 566049)
Hi,
Could you please tell me how to do that copying of the .qf file? I already tried an other method and entered in X Terminal the command cp /home/user/MyDocs/.qf /home/user/MyDocs/qf

Got following reply: cannot stat .qf no such file or directory

So that didn't really help. I'm using vista 32. I also have win 7 on other laptop, but wasn't able to load the maploader on it as it already uses Ovi instead of pc-suite.

I'd really appreciate if someone could help me with this.

Same here , m using Mac and have almost the same problem and infact in mac i cant even access all the files and hidden files of n900 !
so dwnlding pc suite for xp to run in Parallels ..
please help!

vishisback 2010-03-19 19:13

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
tried pc suite in parallels, also tried it on Vista and Mac. Cant figure out wat athe prob is , as i am able to successfully put the command in x term (as, after typing the command and pressing enter, it doesnt gives any notification or message, so i am condisdering it as done !)
But still doesnt Work !
in mac, i am able to get through the maps, i chose the maps to be downloaded, but after the download completes, it gives me the error that " 55f69.cdt - File Couldnt be uploaded. the file or folder might be in use." ! , i treid restarting the phone, and some times that thought that my folders would be in use, but it was not !

PLease help ! any alternate soln ?
Thanks a billion in advance for the help :)
Cheers
Vish

sebastian_ua96 2010-03-22 13:44

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
still need an answer?
u need to have root permissions. download rootsh and obtain them through
'sudo gainroot'. then run 'cp' command.

it worked 4me.

whidalgow 2010-03-23 15:09

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I already downloaded maps of my country (Peru) but i dont know how to use ovi maps without internet connection. I disabled Network Position check but when im runnung Ovi Maps cant detect my position :(

bunanson 2010-04-20 10:02

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I got a dose of my own medicine, sort of, ... map loader keeps on "waiting for phone..." Yike! Solution reported...keep reading.

I read that map 3.04 beta is now available, although my Ovi map is working perfectly, I would like to try see whether there is any new improvement.

1) maploader is gone from USA Nokia site. Yes, it is gone. I finally found a link after going thru lots of run-around, and I have updated the link too, but it wont download. Bottom line, maploader is gone, at least today.

2) I went to my own backup, dig out my own copy of maploader, install, reboot, and got stuck with this "waiting for phone..."

3) When all failed, read the manual.. open up my own thread, this one, and followed the instruction, step by step, found out that one had to get USB-mass storage mode goes on 1st, before opening maploader. That solved the "waiting for phone..." problem, I was able to dl maps and update maps

4) I am now re download America 1.9 G and will see whether this is an update from Ovi Maps 1.01 (Maps 0.1.23.112)

5) I read another thread, recently posted, has quite a lot of similarity to this thread but credit was not given, I would call that internet plagarism. Period.

WinXP SP3
Map loader 3.0.28.0
N900 3.2010.02-8

bun


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