Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Okay, just another strage Idea. I've post it originally here: Use camera for control rather than touch screen

When you start the Mirror application from Maemo Extras, you can test it yourself. When you swipe with your finger over the whole camera the direction of the dark shadow could be very easy to recognize. Perhaps, when hopbeat and hqh have everything the could imaginate integrated and needs a new challenge they could try to integrate something like this! :D (but please, start with #16 before when you've got too much spare time) ;)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@sorodoros, yes, we need a website with instructions for the app, should be up soon.
Can you check which particular option(s) gives this effect?

@Helmuth, I already though about this. Actually we could use both proximity sensor and camera to detect the swiping movement more accurately. There was also a PhD I read about, where the main camera (S60 platform it was I think) was used to recognize various gestures done with your index finger (moving the finger to the sides, to and from the camera etc.). I will post the link to the paper if I find it.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Instructions would be very helpful. Thanks.

The configurations that cause the effect for me are "backspace (browser:back)" in browser, and "menu" invoking, both enabled together.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Any answer to this?

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@DaSilva, sorry, missed your post :)

Detecting which application is currently running or better brought to front is the current main 'research task' :)
About vibration, we have added this feature, it will appear in the next release (or you can build it from svn).

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

I think that the main problem with that would be battery usage.

This causes the camera to not work at all. To make it usable, the hal device would have to be automatically removed/re-added and I'm not sure if its worth the possible trouble. I want to keep things as simple and reliable as possible :)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Exactly. This is the reason why I have suggested to only grab the front-camera by pressing and holding the camera button down. :)

But, I think the only really useful thing could be to scroll fast to the top or the bottom on a webpage. Everything else is to complicated...

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

"... scroll fast to the top or the bottom on a webpage." I vote for for that idea!

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Yes, it prevents using the key for taking a picture.

Another option is to simply kill camera-ui (with dsme -k /usr/bin/camera-ui) on staartup and camer cover close, and start it on cover open.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Great application. Sorry if this has been posted before but is it possible to tap the sensor in order to trigger the shortcuts instead of just waving my hand above it? I accidently trigger it sometimes the way it works now.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@Lacedaemon, unluckily, proximity sensor is binary and we cannot control the distance it operates. So we are stuck with those accidental triggers.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Hiya,

one request - can you please make Shortcutd control the action of the Power button? There's a program called tweakr that can control it (to a certain degree)... it would be cool if this was added to Shortcutd....

Cheers

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

i didnt read the thread but wouldnt be surprised if this is a common complaint:

i would like to have the app be configurable so i can use the shortcut on the camkey button only, the proximity sensor is constantly getting accidentally triggered and theres no way to disable it

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

It appears that you also didn't bother to read the application description before you installed it.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@jerryfreak, the application is fully configurable in the settings.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Shortcutd 0.1.1-2 is now in extras-testing, the main changes are the configuration options allowing better personalization.
Please help us to test it :)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

The extra configuration options are welcome and very nice. I just noticed that my battery is almost dead really fast and looked what might be causing it and shortcutd was using 99.4% cpu continually! I rebooted and it seems fine now.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

What were the (exact) shortcutd settings you were using when this happened?

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

I cannot go and look right now since I'm afraid I'll be all out of battery (don't have the charger with me right now). But I have both enabled, dashboard for camkey short, phone for camkey long, back for proximity short, and menu for proximity long.

The change I made with this version were disabling vibration and the enabling shortcut by a really long proximity. These were the new configuration options I was referring to.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

I tried producing all possible input/event combinations with those settings for several times but I was unable to reproduce the problem. Could have been some weird issue with HAL/dbus. Will keep an eye on that.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

I like the option to disable vibration but I miss vibration for activation/deactivation of shortcutd (very long press). Would it be possible to have this as a child option?

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

There seem to be problems with a clean uninstall of shortcutd and proximityd. I was trying to figure out what is eating my battery, and noticed these entries in my syslog after removing shortcutd and proximityd with the built-in application manager:

Feb 6 06:19:25 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: proximityd main process (874) terminated with status 2
Feb 6 06:19:25 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: proximityd main process ended, respawning
Feb 6 06:19:25 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: proximityd respawning too fast, stopped
Feb 6 06:19:25 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process (865) terminated with status 2
Feb 6 06:19:25 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process ended, respawning
Feb 6 06:19:28 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process (977) terminated with status 2
Feb 6 06:19:28 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process ended, respawning
Feb 6 06:19:30 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process (1055) terminated with status 2
Feb 6 06:19:30 Nokia-N900-42-11 init: shortcutd main process ended, respawning

And it just keeps going until you tell shortcutd to stop. Seems the scripts are still in /etc/event.d

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@zuti, thanks, we're taking look at this.
@DaSilva, sounds reasonable, we will add this.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Thanks for working on this guys, I love the new phone shortcut! :)

Regarding alt-tab, I assume you know Matan has a working solution? Maybe it's not what you want, but I like it. I don't use it though, since it isn't compatible with using the camera key (swapping to previously used window is awesome though,,)

Anyway, what I wanted to propose was to let the volume keys "alt-tab" windows while the camera key is held. No idea if it is possible to block the volume from being changed while the cam key is held though? If possible, bonus points if windows rotated one way when pressing volume up and the other when pressing volume down. :) A lot of Matan's alt-tab code could probably be reused for this btw (?)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Dpkg only removes files from /etc when a package is purged, which is something the application manager does not do. There will be a workaround in the next version. Meanwhile, dpkg --purge shortcutd can be used to remove all of the files (except config in home dir). Update: The version with the workaround has been uploaded as 0.1.1-3

It has one problem: As it replaces files from a system package, I assume it can never make it into Extras (possible problems when upgrading?). Using a similar solution in shortcutd would mean the same fate for it, and also cause it to conflict with Matan's package.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

I am not proficient in the technical details, but I have actually thought of those two issues posing a problem so as a personal comment, thanks for verifying that.

I'll leave the discussion on problems/solutions/workarounds to those in the know-how but from a user point of view I'd love the "hold camkey -> press volume rocker to rotate apps -> release camkey to choose app" functionality to achieve a "Matan-style alt-tab behaviour". I think. Hard to be sure before trying it in practice of course.. :)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

He works well with the proximity sensor.

With the button on the camera. Whenever I press the camera opens its program.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

You only need to press it lightly, not all the way down.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Its simply awesome. thanks a lot guys coz when I use my fren's n900 without this installed, though it wasn't much of a problem before, I just feel sooo uncomfortable switching applications. It's made n900 even more adorable...

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Ok, I have the 'extras-testing' version of this. Where do I vote? being able to use the 'back' button without opening the keyboard is just... perfect.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

REvdKathy it´s sooooo easy *grin*
Go to secret page maemo.org/packages and do search for shortcutd and click to extras testing package and give your vote.

I wonder why programs do no get any votes :P

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

A little shortcut (:wink: )
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...tcutd/0.1.1-3/

If you happen to go there, please also vote for proximityd which is a dependency (without that shortcutd will not go to extras.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

hi

feature request: shift+backspace (browser forward)

cheers

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Oh look! It's karma just went up by one.

Seriously, that is such a hidden corner of maemo.org, I'd suggest to all devs seeking feedback and votes that you provide a nice easy link for bears of very little brain.

(Loving being able to stroke the proximeter with my furry paw instead of having to open the keyboard for browser back!)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

it does not work.

i have tested with short press action and long press action.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

great app! nice improvement from camkeyd.

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

cant get proximty sensor shortcut to work

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

@WhiteWolf, but the proximity sensor works for you?
Do you have the camera key enabled in the settings of shortcutd (settings panel?)

@marshad, is it enabled in the settings? Does it vibrate when you touch the sensor? Does camera key work for you?

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

shortcutd is now in extras:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/shortcutd/

Having a stable release, we will get back to work on the new features :)

Re: [feedback request]shortcutd
 

Great app!!

Im not sure if this was brought up before but is there a way to disable the small vibrations when Shortcutd is disabled?

Currently when i long 'press' the sensor and disable the shortcut, it disables but the device still vibrates every time i move my finger over the sensor. It would be nice to have the following behavior:

While shortcutd is activated:

• if vibration == on
  • short press - vibrate
  • long press - vibrate
  • very long press - vibrate
• if vibration == off
  • short press - dont vibrate
  • long press - dont vibrate
  • very long press - dont vibrate

While shortcutd is de-activated:

• if vibration == on
  • short press - dont vibrate
  • long press - dont vibrate
  • very long press - vibrate
• if vibration == off
  • short press - dont vibrate
  • long press - dont vibrate
  • very long press - dont vibrate

thanks for your hard work :)