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vasillalov 2010-01-12 01:59

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
They must be getting ready to launch the OVI store because, I just updated my N900 and I now have an OVI repository listed in my Application manager.

mikkov 2010-01-12 02:05

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
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Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 465370)
And how I can remove some libraries which were installed as dependency after application removal? (for exam: gonvert pulls libilluminate0 and after removal of it libilluminate0 still leaves on device). Yes, I know about apt-get autoremove but this is weapon of mass destruction. Blue pill Application Manager doesn't show any library at all.

Application Manager removes unneeded libraries and other packages automatically. AM removes only packages which were installed with AM, so if you've been using apt-get or dpkg, autoremoval might not work.

Gonvert doesn't pull libillumination0, so you're after wrong package.

Death Scythe 2010-01-12 02:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikec (Post 464453)
Nope thats the Pr1.1 you are referring to not this update.

You're right. Calls still ring on the headset only when connected.

APA 2010-01-12 02:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 464741)
Are you using 3rd party theme? They don't support new icons yet. Official ones from Nokia should have new icon.

Apologies if this has been noted already - no time to scroll through the whole thread! :)

Confirmed it is the third-party themes that is missing the icons.

I changed back from Matrix to the N-Series theme and the icons now appear in App manager.

Can't wait for the matrix theme to be updated......that is one killer theme! :)

Flandry 2010-01-12 03:05

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Originally Posted by APA (Post 465572)
Can't wait for the matrix theme to be updated......that is one killer theme! :)

It already has, grab the new .deb from the announcement thread.

egoshin 2010-01-12 03:08

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 465544)
Gonvert doesn't pull libillumination0, so you're after wrong package.

You right, my error, it was PackageView and WifiInfo. Gonvert had another problem.

Quote:

Application Manager removes unneeded libraries and other packages automatically.
I removed libilliumination0 after removal both, PackageView and WifiInfo. I don't know why I needed it but my goal was - return to previous libillumination0 version - PackageView started inserting empty lines between list of files (actually anywhere) and a simple it's reinstallation with previous version didn't help. I looked into it's dependency and noted that WifiInfo also depends from libillumination0 and removed both and after that explicitly replaced libillumination0 with older version via dpkg. To do it, I WAS forced to delete a newer version of libillumination0 via red pill of Application manager.

Of course, I payed attention that where is no packages which use libillumination0 beyond PackageView and WifiInfo.

Quote:

AM removes only packages which were installed with AM, so if you've been using apt-get or dpkg, autoremoval might not work.
Fine, but GeneralAntilles suggest me to USE apt-get -

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 465405)
Both of the issues are easily and effectively solved by the use of apt-get.

Can you discuss this with him and find some common approach first - do use or not to use apt-get, to get AM auto-removal working? Some acceptable framework...


(After that it is possible to find out why I was forced to explicitly remove libillumination0 after removal of both packages - AM reports dependency from only two packages and both were removed and replaced later with previous versions)


Bottom line: I vote for removal of any restriction in AM because there is no red pill anymore. Just to view ALL packages. Of course, AM should reject removal if there is a dependency from other packages. But it should be possible to see anything.

Flandry 2010-01-12 03:30

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I think you're at odds about what you expect/want HAM to be with the developers. Their changes to date suggest they're making it what i'd like it to be, also: a slick and straightforward way to get official user apps and content, and support for add-on packages to those in separate functionality. I don't want it to be a general purpose GUI wrapper for apt, and don't think that is a good use of resources, either. The source code is there, though, if you feel differently.

Consider participating in the various brainstorms on the subject.
Handling extra, add-on packages
CLI programs in HAM

romanianusa 2010-01-12 03:43

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Glad they make the App manager run much faster. It was painfully slow before the update.

GavinDroid 2010-01-12 03:56

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 465482)
I updated mine and its not even close to that image, mine its still tha same way wtf?

Same with me and I have the original Nokia theme. I only have the ALL option and Desktop.

Could it be because i dont have any new apps other the one that was preinstall already when i bought it??

GavinDroid 2010-01-12 04:25

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Originally Posted by GavinDroid (Post 465630)
Same with me and I have the original Nokia theme. I only have the ALL option and Desktop.

Could it be because i dont have any new apps other the one that was preinstall already when i bought it??

I had to reinstall it to get all of the apps. I saw the NES emulator is in there now.

Maybe its just my phone but i have a bunch of new apps in there now. (tennis, milky way theme, vgb nintendo gameboy emulator, etc..)

egoshin 2010-01-12 05:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 465610)
I think you're at odds about what you expect/want HAM to be with the developers. Their changes to date suggest they're making it what i'd like it to be, also: a slick and straightforward way to get official user apps and content, and support for add-on packages to those in separate functionality. I don't want it to be a general purpose GUI wrapper for apt, and don't think that is a good use of resources, either. The source code is there, though, if you feel differently.

I know. I just doesn't want to spent another time and root FS space to install aptitude, synaptic, KPackage or else.

OK guys, you just replace one problem with another and don't solve any. 'aptitude' does exist now and it would be used after that because the limits of cripple HAM will force anybody move to normal packet management. Just spent two minutes and think how you would explain some inexperienced N900 user how to handle the removal of library which is not seen in HAM. If you don't want to do it then somebody else will spend a time in forum trying to explain it. Just because he needs it to fix his problem.

Nice...

pycage 2010-01-12 08:54

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IIRC autoremoving works fine as long as you use HAM (blue pill) for installing your stuff. If you left the safe path, and installed via red pill or dpkg, then you ought to be experienced enough to clean up your system again. If not, then don't even think about red pill mode.

jaanusa 2010-01-12 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GavinDroid (Post 465630)
Same with me and I have the original Nokia theme. I only have the ALL option and Desktop.

Could it be because i dont have any new apps other the one that was preinstall already when i bought it??

I can't eighter see new icons after update on App manager, only All, Desktop and Office are visible.

Addition: Seems that App.manager shows only icons for those catalogues that are not installed as after installing DocsToGo office icon disappeared.

Scummer 2010-01-12 16:04

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Installed the update. Phone seems snappier. Application manager is faster.

Andy1210 2010-01-12 16:23

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what is firmware update repository? pls anyone share this catalog :)
because my repo's webadress is: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/mr0
and i dont have software update in app manager :(

egoshin 2010-01-12 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 465854)
IIRC autoremoving works fine as long as you use HAM (blue pill) for installing your stuff. If you left the safe path, and installed via red pill or dpkg, then you ought to be experienced enough to clean up your system again. If not, then don't even think about red pill mode.

You live in virtual reality. Just 2 posts from adjacent forum thread, it is about MMS implementation on N900:

> " so good for u Im a begginer here so even dont know how to do that hehe"

> Just like kuriiri said earlier.
> Go to terminal
> sudo gainroot (you need rootsh to get to the root)
> apt-get install python-evolution (will install python evolution)

Do I need to repeat more again and again?

PS. PackageView and WifiInfo can be installed w/out any red pill or dpkg.

Rob1n 2010-01-12 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1210 (Post 466588)
what is firmware update repository? pls anyone share this catalog :)
because my repo's webadress is: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/mr0
and i dont have software update in app manager :(

Are you running the production firmware or is this a pre-release version? If you're running a pre-production firmware you may need to do a full reflash instead. The SSU repository URL should be https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/203 with the number at the end matching the firmware variant (see Settings -> About product - my Version says 1.2009.44-1.203.4).

Andy1210 2010-01-12 16:42

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my Version just says 1.2009.42-11
and not have number at end..

Rob1n 2010-01-12 16:47

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
Looking at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6878 says that MR0 is the global variant, so try mr0 instead of 203 at the end of the URL.

Andy1210 2010-01-12 17:09

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
i tryed with https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0
and i dont see the update :(

mikkov 2010-01-12 17:18

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 466615)
PS. PackageView and WifiInfo can be installed w/out any red pill or dpkg.

extras-devel isn't in safe path either.

Rob1n 2010-01-12 18:01

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1210 (Post 466680)
i tryed with https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0
and i dont see the update :(

You could do the backup, reflash & restore route then, or you'll have to wait for someone else with MR0 to post the repository info.

egoshin 2010-01-12 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 466699)
extras-devel isn't in safe path either.

There is nothing safe in our world, but somebody claims that HAM automatically removes libraries which are installed by HAM during dependency resolving. There was no any word about specific repository.

mikkov 2010-01-12 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 466790)
There was no any word about specific repository.

My point was that installing packages with something else than HAM is leaving the safe path of Maemo. Installing applications from extras-devel (such as Packageview and wifiinfo) is leaving the safe path of maemo.org. That's the current deal like it or not.

Dargo 2010-01-25 03:30

Re: 1.2009.44-1 Changelog?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 465486)
Dargo, do you have one of the pre-installed themes selected or a custom one? Cathy was having the same problem until she switched back to default theme

Thanks :rolleyes:


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