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bandora 2010-01-14 16:17

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
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Originally Posted by messus (Post 471205)
Laugh all you want!!

F#Ī"!"ing stupid with no portrait mode on a smartphone unit !!

Preparing my N900 for sale.. And by reading this forum it is pretty obvious I am not alone about this portrait issue!!

Thanks for your reply, I guess it may be difficult to get something from any official source about this..

Really? Selling N900 just because there's won't be FULL portrait anytime soon? That's dumb.. But hey, it's your life.. do whatever you want. But I am telling you this, It really does sound VERY stupid to sell the N900 over something like this.

bugelrex 2010-01-14 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 471208)
Really? Selling N900 just because there's won't be FULL portrait anytime soon? That's dumb.. But hey, it's your life.. do whatever you want. But I am telling you this, It really does sound VERY stupid to sell the N900 over something like this.

For those who travel frequently on the subway or bus, one handed operation is pretty vital .. especially when you can't get a seat

Rob1n 2010-01-14 16:21

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Originally Posted by Jimus (Post 471204)
Really? Seems like a step backwards to me. Showing the next 5 events, regardless of when they are would be my preferred behaviour.

Yes, but that wasn't the old behaviour. The old behaviour was "show the events in the next two weeks, then grab some random other events to pad out the widget". Showing the next N events would definitely be the best option though.

Bugslife 2010-01-14 16:21

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Brick. My phone update stalled. The reflashing wouldn't work. Tried several times. Now would not detect USB when I press "u" key.

Do I need to return this to nokia?

Soap77 2010-01-14 16:22

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messus.
too bad for you that you expected portrait mode.
Just have a look at the overview of units at nokia.com, you will see that N900 is shown in landscape mode.

The unit is build for landscape opereation PERIOD. Even if I agree that portrait would be nice, I cannot blame any1 for the lack of it.

colnago 2010-01-14 16:23

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Originally Posted by ralnaghi (Post 471194)
Did try that (select contacts) send via bluetooth, didn't work :(

I have a BMW 2009 and I'm using the manufacturer's built in car kit. Used to work fine with all my previous nokias N97, E90, etc...

That's not how you do it. You have to export your contacts into "1 flat file" (vCard), and export that "one file".

Rob1n 2010-01-14 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 471213)
For those who travel frequently on the subway or bus, one handed operation is pretty vital .. especially when you can't get a seat

One handed operation to do what though? Phone is already in portrait, browser is part-way there. Conversations would definitely be useful in portrait - other than that it's mostly third-party apps I use, which is down to their devs to implement portrait mode.

Matan 2010-01-14 16:24

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Originally Posted by x61 (Post 470924)
What happened to the USSD that was said to be FIXED in the PR1.1?

The bug says fixed in week 52, while this update is from week 51, so this fix is supposed to be in the next update.

FilthyShadow 2010-01-14 16:27

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471205)
Laugh all you want!!

F#Ī"!"ing stupid with no portrait mode on a smartphone unit !!

Preparing my N900 for sale.. And by reading this forum it is pretty obvious I am not alone about this portrait issue!!

Thanks for your reply, I guess it may be difficult to get something from any official source about this..

Theres a difference between being annoyed at the lack of portrait mode and going to the extremes of selling your device because it doesnt have a feature it never was designed to have or advertised saying it would have. I knew the N900 was a landscape device months before I got mine. Whatever new phone you get, research first. Otherwise you will find some other fault and send that back too.

In regards to the new firmware, people say this is the update which should have been on the phone to start with. At the moment, I've noticed no major difference, except speed. It is snappier. It seemed to also (hopefully for good) fixed a wifi issue I had. Any update is good for me.

bugelrex 2010-01-14 16:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 471225)
One handed operation to do what though? Phone is already in portrait, browser is part-way there. Conversations would definitely be useful in portrait - other than that it's mostly third-party apps I use, which is down to their devs to implement portrait mode.

music player
pdf reader
maps, to see how far from destination if you're on the bus
calculator

messus 2010-01-14 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Soap77 (Post 471220)
messus.
too bad for you that you expected portrait mode.
Just have a look at the overview of units at nokia.com, you will see that N900 is shown in landscape mode.

The unit is build for landscape opereation PERIOD. Even if I agree that portrait would be nice, I cannot blame any1 for the lack of it.

How am I supposed to type and answer messages with one hand operation on this unit without portrait mode and virtual portrait keyboard??

Eg. I cant answer an sms while driving a car with this unit (and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!).. There are MANY other situations as well..

Media Player !!
PDF!
Calculator!

etc. etc. etc ...

And just the possibility to hold and manage the phone without using both your hands!! For crying out loud we are living in 2010 now!!!



I regret big time for being so stupid believing what I read that Nokia/Maemo was going to implement the NO.1 wish for consumers for this unit; Full Portrait Mode !!

Also; where is support for MS Silverlight? (for web-tv), and Java to use Java applications like most other normal smartphone??? (except stupid iphone)


Android next...

fms 2010-01-14 16:30

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ICQ plugin (telepathy-haze) no longer works. Any ideas what is going on and how to fix it?

ralnaghi 2010-01-14 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 471222)
That's not how you do it. You have to export your contacts into "1 flat file" (vCard), and export that "one file".

i exported them in a folder, and then select all and send via bluetooth, there's no option to export to a file...

Please help if there's a way to export to a file. Thx.

bugelrex 2010-01-14 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
How am I supposed to type and answer messages with one hand operation on this unit without portrait mode and virtual portrait keyboard??

Eg. I cant answer an sms while driving a car with this unit (and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!).. There are MANY other situations as well..

I regret big time for being so stupid believing what I read that Nokia/Maemo was going to implement the NO.1 wish for consumers for this unit; Full Portrait Mode !!

Android next...

"(and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!)"....

If you cause an accident where only you are affected, then yes its your choice... otherwise...

Jimus 2010-01-14 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 471216)
Yes, but that wasn't the old behaviour. The old behaviour was "show the events in the next two weeks, then grab some random other events to pad out the widget". Showing the next N events would definitely be the best option though.

Fair enough, I never noticed that behavior, it always showed my next 5 events in the correct order. Maybe I'm not busy enough to see the bug :-)

I'm assuming that a brainstorm is the appropriate place for a feature request?

chrisp7 2010-01-14 16:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by generationally (Post 470054)
Ovi Maps properly tracks your position now when moving :-)

In previous version, you had to have routing active for the tracking to work.

Its still incredibly slow to bootup = ie unusable, as is the GPS poor = unusable. Why wont Nokia understand SPEED is king in a phone/mobile device. Finally a Nokia device with a decent CPU - slow apps like this shouldnt be released.

TheLongshot 2010-01-14 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 471258)
"(and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!)"....

If you cause an accident where only you are affected, then yes its your choice... otherwise...

Not to mention that such behavior is illegal in some states and will get you pulled over and fined.

Rob1n 2010-01-14 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimus (Post 471263)
Fair enough, I never noticed that behavior, it always showed my next 5 events in the correct order. Maybe I'm not busy enough to see the bug :-)

I'm assuming that a brainstorm is the appropriate place for a feature request?

I'd think bugzilla would be better for this - I don't think there's any question on what the behaviour ought to be (brainstorm is for when there's several proposed solutions).

jcompagner 2010-01-14 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
I regret big time for being so stupid believing what I read that Nokia/Maemo was going to implement the NO.1 wish for consumers for this unit; Full Portrait Mode !!

number 1 choice??
i dont think so. not in my world.
i have at least 3 things that i want to see implemented/improved/fixed (in random order)

1> voice dialing
2> imap-idle
3> voice navigation (not just that but a overal good maps application)

heretic 2010-01-14 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 471093)
I don't have probs with this. Are you sure you don't have some app doing this or something similar?

I should provide more information because from what I saw, the bug is somehow related to security method

my AP authentication protocol:
WPA/WPA2-PSK

my n900 connection setting:
static ip
default transmission power 100mw
WPA2 only unchecked

maybe I need one more day to test if that was my illusion

bugelrex 2010-01-14 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 471272)
Its still incredibly slow to bootup = ie unusable, as is the GPS poor = unusable. Why wont Nokia understand SPEED is king in a phone/mobile device. Finally a Nokia device with a decent CPU - slow apps like this shouldnt be released.

Have you tried changing location server to supl.google.com. It seems to work very fast in USA for GPS lock

REMFwhoopitydo 2010-01-14 16:50

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seems fine, scrolling seems smoother after this update.

colnago 2010-01-14 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ralnaghi (Post 471255)
i exported them in a folder, and then select all and send via bluetooth, there's no option to export to a file...

Please help if there's a way to export to a file. Thx.

You can do it that way (select all), but you first start by starting with the car's BT device, and initiating a contacts "import", then open Petrovich and "send"/"send all".

As far as consolidating "all contacts" into "one file", there are a few different ways.

Easiest, or more commonly used method, is thru "Outlook", export contacts to a *.csv file, then import *.csv file into something like Gmail, which will take that file and add it to its contacts. From there, you can export to a "vCard" (*.vcf) file."

cddiede 2010-01-14 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471205)
Laugh all you want!!

F#Ī"!"ing stupid with no portrait mode on a smartphone unit !!

Preparing my N900 for sale.. And by reading this forum it is pretty obvious I am not alone about this portrait issue!!

Thanks for your reply, I guess it may be difficult to get something from any official source about this..

Great. Now quit your whining and sell me your "smartphone unit".

I hate to see you go, but......... Sorry that's a lie. Adios!!

Giostz 2010-01-14 17:02

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Not sure if this has been said, but i noticed after the update that making a skype call now shows the amount of money left on your account. Was that always there? cause i just noticed it. However skype calls arent working as smoothly as before. Well for me atleast. Tried over wifi and t mobile 3g. And calls are breaking in and out. But i was using my bluetooth. So ill try again later without BT on.

Moley 2010-01-14 17:06

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
How am I supposed to type and answer messages with one hand operation on this unit without portrait mode and virtual portrait keyboard??

Eg. I cant answer an sms while driving a car with this unit (and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!).. There are MANY other situations as well..

Apart from being unbelievably stupid it is illegal throughout the UK, and in case of an accident if found giulty of dangerous driving a 2 year prison sentence (death by dangerous driving is up to 14 years). So saying it's your choice is like saying murdering someone is your choice. Maemo doesn't need cretins like you, feel free to go to android, although you sound more suited to an iphone.

niqbal 2010-01-14 17:11

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couple of things i noticed are

potrait mode available for browser
email: nokia messaging no longer buggy or halts. works like a charm now
overall speed improvement, snappier, opens apps quickly
media player widget used to hang, that too is working beautifully.

biggest improvement is speed, very very quick response. its how n900 shouldve been

egoshin 2010-01-14 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo (Post 469953)
The update basically worked. But now something with the nameserver is broken. My resolv.conf is empty and i can't resolve names although i do have basic ip connectivity. Need to investigate this ...

I'll keep documenting this here, just in case someone runs into the same issues. I have tracked this down to the point that udhcpc creates a resolv.conf in /tmp/resolv.conf.wlan0 whereas dnsmasq expects this file to be in /var/run. Copying the file manually fixes the problem.

Does anyone here know how the file is to be put into /var/run ? The first few lines of the file responsible for this look like this in my machine:

Code:

Nokia-N900-42-11:/etc/udhcpc# more /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script
#!/bin/sh
# udhcpc script to use with OSSO ICd

RESOLV_CONF="/tmp/resolv.conf.$interface"
...

Is this file broken on my machine? Should this really read /tmp in that RESOLV_CONF line? Can someone confirm this?

Uninstall vpnc, put "nameserver 127.0.0.1" into /etc/resolv.conf and install vpnc again.

Or put that line also in /etc/vpnc/resolv.conf-backup

rmerren 2010-01-14 17:13

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471205)
Preparing my N900 for sale.. And by reading this forum it is pretty obvious I am not alone about this portrait issue!!

Does that mean you will stop posting on this board? We will all miss you.

vietn900 2010-01-14 17:19

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anyone see improvement over battery life? I havw been using this device for about 4 hours now non stop (lol yes nonstop) and I got 1/2 bar left. here what i've been running:

8 windows: 2 web, 1 music playing through speaker nonstop at max volume, 1 app manager been installing apps here and there including the new firmware, 4 conversation texting moderately. also im continously using 3g and bluetooth is enabled.

rm42 2010-01-14 17:20

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
the NO.1 wish for consumers for this unit; Full Portrait Mode !!

Speak for yourself. I think that having portrait mode would be useful ocassionally, I can live happily without it. There are many other features much more important for me that are currently only found on the N900. And I suspect there are lots of people that feel the same way I do. So, while I can see that this may be important for some, just donīt claim to speak for all of us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
Also; where is support for MS Silverlight? (for web-tv), and Java to use Java applications like most other normal smartphone??? (except stupid iphone)

Something else I have no use for. I donīt think Silverlight is available in Android either. Personally I donīt like Silverlight because it is controlled by MS. So I hope never to see it supported in either Android or Maemo. Fortunatelly, it looks like both platforms are doing just fine without it.

egoshin 2010-01-14 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo (Post 470204)
/etc/resolv.conf doesn't even need to contain anything.

Wrong.

Fix vpnc which checks old Maemo file to determine the Maemo-specific configuration way incorrectly - script vpnc-script looks into existence of file /etc/osso_software_version. Unfortunately that script runs each time even vpnc is not started.

BTW, don't try create /etc/osso_software_version - device behavior could change, it is some way to restrict old Maemo versions (application updates).

colnago 2010-01-14 17:24

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
How am I supposed to type and answer messages with one hand operation on this unit without portrait mode and virtual portrait keyboard??

Eg. I cant answer an sms while driving a car with this unit (and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!).. There are MANY other situations as well..

...

I wouldn't tell you to not text and drive, but many police authorities in states will tell you, based on their laws. Are your texts that important to risk the lives of others on the road? If so, why not just get a bluetooth enabled device to just "talk" to the person, given the urgency and importance of your communication.

As an avid road cyclist, who has been hit by a car despite safe cycling practices and following local law, and also knows many others who have been hit by cars while on their bikes, its a shame hearing that people take this attitude.

As for Android, coming from a Droid, and still frequenting the Droid/Android forums, you're in for a whole other world of issues...more so than the 900.

asidana 2010-01-14 17:24

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i have maemo-luncher is not to upgrade list after update . would it be ok if i do apt-get dist-upgrade and update it?

mysticrokks 2010-01-14 17:27

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has it fixed the rebooting?

trying to search cant find anything

ioan 2010-01-14 17:28

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niqbal (Post 471384)
couple of things i noticed are

potrait mode available for browser

Do I have to do something special to get the portrait mode in the browser? Mine shows only in landscape even after the update.

kaz911 2010-01-14 17:28

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Charging/battery reporting seems to be buggy now.

Started at 972ma. Charged to 1072ma and it stopped charging by it self. (Charge-Led stopped blinking and no charge indication on bar display)

Then I unplugged charger - and plugged it back in.

It showed full bars but 1072ma.

Now it is charging again - and within 2 min showing 1221ma current charge - last full 1072ma (and still charging)

asidana 2010-01-14 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 471445)
Do I have to do something special to get the portrait mode in the browser? Mine shows only in landscape even after the update.

ctr+shift+o

lancewex 2010-01-14 17:35

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 471246)
How am I supposed to type and answer messages with one hand operation on this unit without portrait mode and virtual portrait keyboard??

Eg. I cant answer an sms while driving a car with this unit (and do not tell me I should not type messages while driving, that is MY choice!).. There are MANY other situations as well..

Android next...

It did not have it when you bought it. Nokia did not promise it. So it is your fault. Your angry complaining is tiresome and unwarranted. Just buy your Android and try not to kill someone (or yourself) while using it in the car. Anyone who talks so cavalierly about endangering lives can go ?&#Ģ themselves as far as I am concerned.

vietn900 2010-01-14 17:38

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i find that calling your phone works better as some people have trouble activating it


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