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Laughing Man 2010-03-03 17:51

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 553735)
If the next firmware doesn't introduce (at least 75% of) :
- MMS
- Ovi + Step by step nav.
- Front camera videocalls
- Night mode for video and image camera mode
- Fixes for wifi.

I'm ebaying my n900, going back to N95, and starting to look for a nice HTC with android, which has all those stuff.

So I won't be able to type ifconfig, top, and schedule tasks with crontab.
So what?

See ya. Good luck

wierdo 2010-03-03 20:04

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by bitflung (Post 554324)
knowing that while i'm connected if my wife calls she'll get pissed that her calls go persistently straight to voicemail.

Sounds like you need a new wife! ;)

eitama 2010-03-03 20:18

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by wierdo (Post 554587)
sounds like you need a new wife! ;)

+1 .

maxximuscool 2010-03-03 20:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 548763)
I hope they remove multitasking completely, so we can get a more fluid experience, like the iPhone ;)


Wow sound great, if you want the N900 to be like an Iphone then why don't you just buy an iPhone instead? My whole point of buying my N900 in the first place was the Multitasking. Else I would of going for the Droid.

I hope the next firmware fixes the brain of people who is possessed by the Apple iPhone bug :D

maxximuscool 2010-03-03 20:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by elris (Post 554358)
turn by turn navigation should really be just a matter of time. In last interviews on All About Symbian, the clearly said Maemo/Meego will focus on maps and augmented reality. They will be some of the most important features.
The also said in some other interviews that every Qt realese of Nokis Maps will be the same for Symbian and Maemo/Meego.
Of course, it's hard to say when all this is going to happen, but I suspect that March could be an interesting month for us.

FYI- this month is MARCH!! lol I don't see anything interesting yet! Let us hope! I'm waiting for my Bluetooth Poor sound quality fixes in PR1.2. I can't even use my bluetooth headset right now. Technically I can but it sound like a Robot lol.

eitama 2010-03-03 20:48

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 554620)
Wow sound great, if you want the N900 to be like an Iphone then why don't you just buy an iPhone instead? My whole point of buying my N900 in the first place was the Multitasking. Else I would of going for the Droid.

I hope the next firmware fixes the brain of people who is possessed by the Apple iPhone bug :D

Or even better, adds recognition for humor and sarcasm (:

maxximuscool 2010-03-03 20:52

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by eitama (Post 554643)
Or even better, adds recognition for humor and sarcasm (:

lol Yeah i think that even better! :)

Brank 2010-03-04 08:50

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Nokia Conversations just posted http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...-update-video/

Hoping it's here to make everyone ready for the soon to be released PR1.2 :)

-Edit

I followed the video to youtube, and it was posted February 15 :( so probably for 1.1.1, though reposting could be reminder for 1.2

cryox92 2010-03-04 09:02

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Ovi maps would be awesome.But not turn-by-turn navigation only.They need to increase the areas which ovi map covers.

jaeezzy 2010-03-04 09:16

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
is there any chance for ovi maps to include maps for Nepal?? I know its tiny and easily overseen in the world map but still...coz last time I google maped in my comp I was sooo glad to see it has the streets showing.

daemonfin 2010-03-04 09:20

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bitflung (Post 554324)
The only crucially important update i want in the next firmware is a fix for incoming calls failing while 2G/2.5G packet data is connected.

Vote for this fix here if you want it too:
GPRS/EDGE data connection prohibits incoming voice calls

currently, despite the network fully supporting the proper signaling (which suspends packet data for incoming calls on N95, N82, N97, and 5800xm when on 2G/2.5G), the N900 doesn't suspend or drop the data connection for incoming calls - they always go straight to voicemail.

it's the #1 most critical bug for me, since i'm always on 2.5G network and don't want to miss incoming calls, i can never allow my N900 to connect automatically to packet data; and connecting manually is done knowing that while i'm connected if my wife calls she'll get pissed that her calls go persistently straight to voicemail.

I don't have that problem.

ysss 2010-03-04 09:27

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by eitama (Post 554643)
Or even better, adds recognition for humor and sarcasm (:

Lol i think that flew right over him..

eitama 2010-03-04 09:44

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 555182)
Lol i think that flew right over him..

I know!!! I went to sleep smiling :)

zaheerm 2010-03-04 09:50

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 553735)
If the next firmware doesn't introduce (at least 75% of) :
- MMS
- Ovi + Step by step nav.
- Front camera videocalls
- Night mode for video and image camera mode
- Fixes for wifi.

I'm ebaying my n900, going back to N95, and starting to look for a nice HTC with android, which has all those stuff.

So I won't be able to type ifconfig, top, and schedule tasks with crontab.
So what?

Sorry to say about android, having a nexus one you are very wrong about android having all of these.

- Front camera videocalls (Not on android, voip on android was non-existant until 1.6 and now it is in an awful state, sipdroid and other voip apps (there are none installed by default) are really really bad. Video, forget it on android.

- Ovi + step by step navigation (the android google navigation requires a data connection (and uses lots of it) throughout your journey and requires you to be in USA.

- Fixes for wifi, the wifi in nexusone is a joke compared to on my n900.

- camera, my nexus one camera is much worse picture quality than my n900 and is really **** in night mode.

stayloa 2010-03-04 10:11

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
*Moan, moan, moan* I didn't research my device and I want things that the phone doesn't do...

Portrait is annoying, but we knew it didn't have it and won't fully get it. MMS? What's wrong with fMMS being developed?! This is meant to be speculation, not people threatening to sell theiir devices because they didn't research.

I'm 100percent happy with mine. If they can improve it then that's great, but no complaints... My speculation is improved efficiencies, so a tiny bit more battery!

Aranel 2010-03-04 10:36

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
I've no complaints about my device and It's fully doing its job for me and everything is great. So, I think people should stop crying about missing features, If It's OK for me, so N900 is good for at least ONE person, and It means you should pay more attention before buying anything.

PS: LOL, Tags are funny ^^

anti-dualism 2010-03-04 10:49

Re: Does anyone know when the next firmware (PR1.2?) is expected?
 
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Originally Posted by cliffordpascal (Post 541962)
Its a great idea to not be prompted for an action you have already tried to execute.

for example...lets take the iphone, although I think the N900 is a better device and highly more configurable. Has anyone ever noticed that when you ask the iphone to do something there is no response back to the user unless the action failed which make the UE (User Exprience) in the GUI so much nicer and slick, not to mention faster. Where nokia falls down on the GUI side of things is that their interfaces sometime provide too much feedback.

For instance why do i need a message from the hildon desktop saying "bluetooth activated" when i have just selected to turn the thing on. wouldn't it be obvious that it is activated if i just asked the system to turn it on. In the event of the system returning any sort of message back to the user, it should be an error message ...i.e "bluetooth activation unsuccessful" or something like that. My point being many more notification messages generated by the UI should only be there to display error messages to inform the user that the required action had failed. If no message was displayed when the user asked the system to do something then take it for granted that the task was executed successfully.

If many users disagree with this suggestion then as an alternative maybe have a confirmation one can switch on and off i.e "supress system notification messages"

Cheers

Thoughts and comments on a postcard please

Its quite a contradiction to the unix/linux command prompt where for example when a file is copied successfully it does not give you any feedback. After all its a GUI, people want to be assured.

Venemo 2010-03-04 10:50

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stayloa (Post 555235)
I'm 100percent happy with mine. If they can improve it then that's great, but no complaints... My speculation is improved efficiencies, so a tiny bit more battery!

Fully agreed.

jcompagner 2010-03-04 11:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
I hope they just speed things up like conversation window, (opening them, or scrolling through them)
and more places like that are there. (media player? image viewer?). I here that some have problems searching/scrolling through contacts if you have 3000 of them. But even that number shouldnt matter at all.
They just should go look what eats cpu time at most places and optimize all of that. That will result in a better battery life in the end also..

eitama 2010-03-04 15:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaheerm (Post 555204)
Sorry to say about android, having a nexus one you are very wrong about android having all of these.

- Front camera videocalls (Not on android, voip on android was non-existant until 1.6 and now it is in an awful state, sipdroid and other voip apps (there are none installed by default) are really really bad. Video, forget it on android.

- Ovi + step by step navigation (the android google navigation requires a data connection (and uses lots of it) throughout your journey and requires you to be in USA.

- Fixes for wifi, the wifi in nexusone is a joke compared to on my n900.

- camera, my nexus one camera is much worse picture quality than my n900 and is really **** in night mode.

Zaheem,

The only thing you may be right about is the front camera mode on andriod, I have not checked, In regards to your other comments :

- Iv'e been using on the n95 a program called waze, it's a free gps navigation application, which uses very very little bandwidth, provides excellent results, updates daily when you want over wifi, and takes into considerations traffic when calculating the best route.
It's one of the best applications I have ever seen - Works on Symbian, Iphone, Android, WinMo. N900? no....
I have to carry my n95 and swap the sim card everytime I need GPS...

- I don't know about nexusone, but I didn't say I am going to buy a nexus one. I said i'll buy an HTC phone that suites my needs. surely it won't cost more then the n900. the wifi on the htc HERO is great. A lot better and more stable then on the n900.

- Again you consider the nexusone in regards to the night shots with the camera, I had great night shots with the n95, if you don't move it, push up the exposure, you can get great results.
Pictures don't always have to be pretty, sometimes you need them to be practical.

Don't get me wrong, I love the n900. But I keep compromising for many small things. And for the buck, I just don't like compromising.

Now I have to get back to class (:
If I get MeeGo (as mentioned yesterday in some post), and it will fix some stuff - You will see me running around in my underwear screaming "I got an N900 and I like it".

Eitam.

russo_br 2010-03-04 15:39

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeezzy (Post 555171)
is there any chance for ovi maps to include maps for Nepal?? I know its tiny and easily overseen in the world map but still...coz last time I google maped in my comp I was sooo glad to see it has the streets showing.

The source of the maps is Navteq, so if Nokia Maps for Symbian don't include Nepal right now I guess there is no chance that it would be included on Nokia Maps for Maemo...

Nepal probably has GPS SatNavs for cars right now, hasn't it? In this case I suggest you to check what company provide the maps, so you can have a clue of what GPS application could include your country eventually.

jaeezzy 2010-03-05 06:34

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 555615)
The source of the maps is Navteq, so if Nokia Maps for Symbian don't include Nepal right now I guess there is no chance that it would be included on Nokia Maps for Maemo...

Nepal probably has GPS SatNavs for cars right now, hasn't it? In this case I suggest you to check what company provide the maps, so you can have a clue of what GPS application could include your country eventually.

Thanks for the reply. I doubt Nepal has any but I'm not sure coz I'm away for more than 3 years. In symbian maps there used to be asia but not sure if Nepal was there. Thought maybe I need one when I'm there and just checking out. I will have a look at symbian maps if its there. Thanks

Necc 2010-03-05 07:07

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aranel (Post 555265)
I've no complaints about my device and It's fully doing its job for me and everything is great. So, I think people should stop crying about missing features, If It's OK for me, so N900 is good for at least ONE person, and It means you should pay more attention before buying anything.

PS: LOL, Tags are funny ^^

Oh how fantastic, one pleased customer, so everyone else STFU? :rolleyes:

Dude, this is Nokia's best device, and the upcoming devices with maemo will represents the highest category devices in the future, therefore people asks for reason about normal and working navigation sotware, well-made telephony services, compatibility with other Nokia services (suchs as full OVI compatibility, not just some beta state store 'thing'), well made software for maemo platform (and not just "3 click linux rewrites/ports"), and so on.

As long as this not happens, maemo and N900 will be just a great "toy" for developers and system administrators, but not the perfect device for the end-users.

lma 2010-03-05 07:17

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 554164)
did anyone notice pictures improved with the last update ? No more grain :p

Probably placebo effect, PR1.1.1 did not contain anything that would affect pictures.

xKamaitachi 2010-03-05 07:29

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
dam i hope this update comes soon... i mainly just pray for portrait mode, better battery, and more app storage space..would be nice for someone to develop an actual facebook app , instead of a widget and using the web browser

jcompagner 2010-03-05 07:44

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xKamaitachi (Post 556479)
dam i hope this update comes soon... i mainly just pray for portrait mode, better battery, and more app storage space..would be nice for someone to develop an actual facebook app , instead of a widget and using the web browser

os portait will not come for maemo 5, thats already a well known fact. But they can ofcourse support portait mode in other apps like conversations
more app storage space? is the 2gb not enough for you? or do you mean rootfs?
apps should just go to /opt and yes also nokia's own stuff if you ask me like maps.

dont think a firmware upgrade will suddenly give you another battery ;)

but i do hope they can optimize stuff so that it take less cpu cycles and because of that it is faster and takes less juice.

bald.eagle.one 2010-03-05 09:19

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 
what i wanna see?
media player:
sorting by folder name with option to add folder to current playlist

modest:
possibility to select and copy text,links from email (without going to edit mode - just like in browser cursor on the side)
search emails at least by title

basic features
still missing

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:05

what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Hey guys just wondering whats happening with the pr 1.2 update if any one knows or i missed the info some where?

i was hoping it would be in the 1st week of march but seems like there is gonna be delays.

Do you guys think its going to be delayed more due to n900 including more things in the update because of the whole meego 1 on n900?

2 things i could do with, turn by turn maps (fingers crossed supports potrait mode) and bug fixes :rolleyes:

like many others i check for updates everyday....sad i know :P

berty 2010-03-08 16:07

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
You've got 2 hopes, Bob Hope and No Hope!

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 16:08

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
bob hope rocks..... The search function is your best bet :) - few long threads on it.

Simple answer - Nokia never releases dates, rumours and bob hope, hope it will be soon :D

Not sure what you mean by delays? - as they don't release dates.... then they can't be delaying can they?

Dave999 2010-03-08 16:09

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
can be released any day now ;)

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 16:10

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 560101)
can be released any day now ;)

can be? should be? could be? may be? :D
Possi'blee :D

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:12

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
4 post in few mins lol

say what ever u guys like, i know ur dying for the update too i bet ur checking app manager all the time :D

sjgadsby 2010-03-08 16:14

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 560092)
i was hoping it would be in the 1st week of march but seems like there is gonna be delays.

Do you guys think its going to be delayed more...

Nokia aren't in the habit of publicly announcing the release dates of firmware updates in advance, and I haven't seen where they broke form this time. Do you have a link to a firmware release date announcement by Nokia for PR1.2?

If they haven't announced a release date, how can we know whether or not there has been a delay?

EDIT: noobmonkey zoomed past me.

craftyguy 2010-03-08 16:15

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 560099)
Simple answer - Nokia never releases dates, rumours and bob hope, hope it will be soon :D

Probably because they absolutely suck at meeting deadlines/launch dates :P

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:17

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 560114)
Nokia aren't in the habit of publicly announcing the release dates of firmware updates in advance, and I haven't seen where they broke form this time. Do you have a link to a firmware release date announcement by Nokia for PR1.2?

If they haven't announced a release date, how can we know whether or not there has been a delay?

didnt some one from nokia say in nokia forums (or tech support, i cant recall) that UK didnt get the v3 update because it was coming merged with pr 1.2 end of feb/march :confused:

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 16:18

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 560114)
Nokia aren't in the habit of publicly announcing the release dates of firmware updates in advance, and I haven't seen where they broke form this time. Do you have a link to a firmware release date announcement by Nokia for PR1.2?

If they haven't announced a release date, how can we know whether or not there has been a delay?

EDIT: noobmonkey zoomed past me.

*Those gosh darn young whipper shhhhhnapppers* ;)

jamie721 2010-03-08 16:18

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
lol i check app manager every day when i wake up almost religiously i want qt4.6 as standard cant wait. :D:D: D

sjgadsby 2010-03-08 16:19

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 560126)
didnt some one from nokia say in nokia forums (or tech support, i cant recall) that UK didnt get the v3 update because it was coming merged with pr 1.2 end of feb/march

I don't recall seeing such an announcement, but I may have missed it. That's why I asked for a link. Do you have one?

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:19

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie721 (Post 560128)
lol i check app manager every day when i wake up almost religiously i want qt4.6 as standard cant wait. :D:D: D

i know what you mean :)


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