Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Really looking foward to get Symbian on N900

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

I am confused!...A symbian 3 on N900...not me...I was lucky enough to play with new Nokia E7 which has symbian 3 on it. I was saying to myself, damn this phone would be great if Maemo or Meego can be ported to it. The E7 hardware and design are great but damn..the symbian OS in it...make it suck!...it's like to have a BMW car with a 4cylinders corrola engine in it.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

exactly my sentiments. i finally went and played with the e7 this weekend and immediately fell in love with the hardware and physical design. but dammnit, i can't say the same for the OS. you are being unkind to toyota. it should be a bmw with a lawn mower engine inside.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

You can stop looking forward now :) Nokia is moving to WP 7 and they made Symbian closed source again

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

lol he is right no matter what you do Toyota is Toyota it cant match European quality and awesomeness be that BMW , Audi or Merc

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

I agree E7 is big piece of hardware, with a lot of functionalities.

I hope the future meego device will like this!

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

hell no, we don't want a crappy 680 mhz arm 11 cpu, and **** that fixed fpcus camera, and 256 mbs of ram, no thank u .
but if you meant the hardware looks, as for the 4"screen and the qwerty and aluminuim body than hell yes we want that :D

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

haha....by the time nokia sorts it out it will be WP 9.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Ok, I admit I've never used a Symbian OS phone. From what I understand however, as far as functioning as a cell phone its great. The Smart Phone aspects..not so much, but thats what I have Maemo for. Put me down for wanting to dual boot to Symbian 3.:D

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

If the samsung galaxy 2 is anything to go by
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/sams...uide-50003000/
then would not a 1 Ghz dual processor and at least 512 or more ram be needed for meego to be competitive?

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Used my girl's N8 a lot, helping her set it up etc. It's NO MATCH for Maemo5. I just couldn't "downgrade" to S^3. Not now. :)

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Ok.. not to be a jerk.. but did you understand what I wrote? A simple phone OS instead of Maemo 5 for PHONE FUNCTIONS. Again I have yet to see Symbian in motion but if it has voice dial, easy integration to outlook, better SMS management (all though there's a rumor the new OVI suite fixes this for Maemo), and better (although time sensitive) Nokia support, why not Dual Boot Symbian?!

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

It will be very nice a Dual boot with symbian. Maemo is the best obviuosly buth I prefer Symbian than Android

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Whats this rumour about a new OVI Suite? Fixes for Maemo? :)

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

hahaha...by the time nokia figures it out, we will be on some other platform looking from the outside of nokia!

...or still on our n900! :/

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72289

I said rumor because i didn't try it myself..

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

not a rumor...it is actually an older version then the beta 3.1.

though the beta actually does not crash as much like the 290....it still doesnt do what the pc suite does so smoothly and efficiently...it still takes forever to sync data and crashes...though not as much.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Sure I read it. But we all know about the N900's shortcomings when it comes to the actual *phone* aspect of it. But I can still use it as a phone (albeit not as easily as a S^3 device) but the way maemo deals with SMS, I would not exchange it. The SMS threading on S^3 looks crappy - Conversations on the N900 is better.

And S^3's multi-tasking is awful. Instead of one tap and seeing all your open apps minimized, then another tap to select an open app, S^3 has you scroll oversized miniaturized app windows that are too big to see all at once. It is a frustration after using the quick-and-easy method in maemo.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

:confused:

OK buddy, Cheers!!:)

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

BACK ON TOPIC

Any council members, Nokia employees, Developers have anything to say about this original post? After thinking about it, maybe Nokia is against letting the n900 dual boot Symbian? Maybe they think it would take away from their phones sales?

Come on Maemo major players! Tell us what you think!

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

I too would love dual boot with S^3.

s60V5 (n97mini) made me switch to maemo and i swear I would never buy another symbian device at the moment (after being a symbian fanboy since 2002 or so).. but having S^3 to test out as a secondary os would be nice.. theyre still a few programs from symbian that i miss (like ovi maps)
really doubt its gonna happen anyway.. there just isnt enough interest

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

I can't for the love of mahna mahna understand why people want to dual boot to/from from the phone GUI they apparently want to use their phone with. It's like turning off the phone because you want to use MSN, leaving you without either for a few minutes in between. You can either use the one or the other, and only after a reboot. That's not cool when there's features you use in both, probably quite often at the same time. Dual boot has no place in a world of connectivity.

No, my friends, virtualization is the only way forward. Run S^3 AND Maemo, not OR.

Since we're all dreaming here, you all know you're not going to have either, right?

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Err.. you realise the overhead of virtualisation is probably a bit taxing for the poor old N900 with 256MB of RAM and "only" a 600Mhz processor? By the time you get to virtualise a guest OS's kernel that is abstracted from the host kernel, you would have filled up the entire memory space (S^3 takes around 128MB straight out of the box on the N8 and Android 2.2 taking about the same) making it thrash the hell out of the virtual memory?

By the time you run it, run another application on top, you would have filled all your memory space. The phone will be unusable from this point onwards with 100% CPU utilisation, 100% RAM utilisation and constant swapping.

The only levels of virtualisation that exists on N900 at the moment properly are the side-by-side stuff that doesnt run as an abstraction space like Easy Debian and Preenv. They both use the same underlying architecture and shared with a guest OS - more like an additional set of libraries on top of Maemo.

Until Nokia releases something better (Dual core, 1GB+ RAM) then theres very little to no hope of using virtualisation as such - hence why VMWare even dropped their mobile virtualisation project for Maemo.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Could you give a sensible ROM with source code for Symbian^3 ?
I'll be trying a dual boot during vacation...

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Well, Symbian is Closed source again... :(

I do hope someone still has the source

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

No it 's still open source but needs registration
Gonna fetch it!
To quote Rise Against "I'm sick of waiting for someone else to go"

ANYBODY!!!! I'LL BE COLLECTING TEAM FOR DEV!!!!!!!!!!
In the name of Tux! :D

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Virtualization has existed for many, many years before there even were 600Mhz processors or 256MB RAM. And there are plenty of virtualization solutions on Maemo already. You name two, then there's virtualbox, more emulators, easyMer and what not. Yes, it would be best if you could have direct access to hardware - but this is a linux box. If EasyDeb is possible, EasySym is possible. It was exactly because of EasyDeb that I mention virtualization.

[Request] Porting Symbian^3? (Got source)
 

Hi
I'm looking for a team to be porting Symbian^3 as the source code is available.
Any help would be appreciated!!!
If you want to help, just reply!

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

that would be awsome.. please guys help Marmistrz...

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

Last time I checked, you need to be of particular affiliation with Nokia to obtain the source.

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

Remove (announce) from the thread title, and post all further questions in other existing threads about symbian 3 please.

On a side note, good luck to you, sir :D

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

This is a piece of cake I already ported iOS and window 7. Give me an hour or less :D

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

I like window 7, can I get that for my blade too? Doesn't have to be before lunch! :D

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

What have you done so far, and what stage is your project at?

I'm skeptical to say the least - a couple of days ago you were asking for help installing apps on Maemo...

And please remove the '[Announce]' from your thread title...

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

I think poster # 5 might be able to do something.

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

ported win7 and ios to ... ?? maemo ???

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

Ignore him - just a kid that thinks it's really funny to create threads with the title like "[announce] ios on n900" etc etc...

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

some more info. please

i was taking you seriously untill i saw your signature. so..may the force aid our friend marmistrz

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

You don't believe him?? Ohh, check these threads:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74332

and

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74283

He is soooo awesome. :cool:

Re: [Announce] Porting Symbian^3
 

both are unnecessary threads...