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eitama 2010-04-18 07:29

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rachol (Post 615647)
I will check this out now...

I am a little bit tired now, slept 4 hours, so it might take more time to figure out what might be the reason :)

Could you reboot your phone and try installing it again?

Hi, I just installed it, and here is my feedback :

1. How long will reports be sent after sending the activate sms?
2. Why do I need the deactivate reports option?
3. I don't really understand what does auto-reply does?
When does it "reply"?
4. Send periodic reports - Is that after activating reports? or ALL the time?
5. I have configured everything, and then sent an sms to activate reports from a friends phone, I immediately got sms with some gps fix which is totally wrong. It's showing the cell phone in a place I have never ever been, as it's enemy area, makes me wonder (;
6. Last but not least, I prompted the user for internet connection. I needed to choose the 3G gprs network... That is obviously useless as the thief will not help me compromise his identity!
I suggest allowing the user to choose the default connection upon config.
6. For traffic sake, I suggest checking if the back camera cover is open before sending the black picture!
7. The internet connection stays open, which might drain the battery faster, and prevent me from trying to locate the phone again later.
8. Also this might have been mentioned already, but i'll mention it again (if it was), the sms appears to the thief, is there an option to make the conversations window at least close right after it pops? or intercept the sms before it is even shown by the UI?

Other than that, The application is obviously amazing,
And I think you have done amazing work on it, I will be using it from now own, you can be counting on it.

Eitam,
QA Engineer (;

Quasar 2010-04-18 07:40

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
I've got the same question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 615664)
4. Send periodic reports - Is that after activating reports? or ALL the time?

I opened my keyboard now, and phone started to send emails and sms without activating-sms!

zimon 2010-04-18 07:41

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Starting arbitrary command by SMS could be useful.

SMS like:
'PASSWORD CMD "nohup ssh -n -q -R 2222:localhost:22 emergency@123.45.6.7"'

Prior the above command the owner of the phone should configure the ssh server to allow access to user emergency without password. (couple of ways to prepare for this also)

After that kind of command succeeding, the owner "owns" his phone again little more as he can ssh in to his phone.

rachol 2010-04-18 07:43

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

1. How long will reports be sent after sending the activate sms?
Depends on the settings you choose, it might set immediately or after getting gps fix, or after keyboard slides out or after battery level goes low.

Quote:

2. Why do I need the deactivate reports option?
You might have configured periodic updates for sms or e-mail, if you have done so, the app will start reporting every X minutes/houres untill you send deactivate reports text message

Quote:

3. I don't really understand what does auto-reply does?
When does it "reply"?
It is used for reporting, you have an option to send reports only to preconfigured number or you might choose this option to send the sms report to the phone from which "activate" message was sent.

Quote:

4. Send periodic reports - Is that after activating reports? or ALL the time?
Starts after activating reports

Quote:

5. I have configured everything, and then sent an sms to activate reports from a friends phone, I immediately got sms with some gps fix which is totally wrong. It's showing the cell phone in a place I have never ever been, as it's enemy area, makes me wonder (;
There is an option i GPS settings to send latest cached postion, if you choose this, the application will read the position that is currently stored in gps ( might be old). It might be usefull when the "thief" used some gps application before and now he/she is in a place, where sattelites are not available.

There is an option to send GPS fix only


Quote:

6. Last but not least, I prompted the user for internet connection. I needed to choose the 3G gprs network... That is obviously 1. How long will reports be sent after sending the activate sms?
Yes, that is a missing feature to activate the network without carrying about connection settings, but I there is a bug in libraries in meamo, I spent at least 2 whole days on making the workaround, but it didn't work. I am still trying to fix that thing

rachol 2010-04-18 07:45

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

I've got the same question:

Originally Posted by eitama
4. Send periodic reports - Is that after activating reports? or ALL the time?
I opened my keyboard now, and phone started to send emails and sms without activating-sms!
That, should not happen, I have tested it multiple times, I will check the code now.

Quasar 2010-04-18 07:49

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Could it be because I didn't reboot the phone after upgrading? I rebooted now. If this happens again, I'll post here.
"Send periodic reports" options were enabled.

Quasar 2010-04-18 07:52

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
I've got another question:
If I enable "Use auto-reply..." should I fill the "Receiver's phone number...." field or not?

rpgAmazon 2010-04-18 07:53

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rachol (Post 615678)
Yes, that is a missing feature to activate the network without carrying about connection settings, but I there is a bug in libraries in meamo, I spent at least 2 whole days on making the workaround, but it didn't work. I am still trying to fix that thing

BTW, What about simply wait for "new user" to connect himself, and only then send the email report?

F2thaK 2010-04-18 07:54

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
only thing is you get a txt (on the lost/stolen phone) saying reportstarted or whatever your code is..

rachol 2010-04-18 07:54

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Ok, I see it :)

It is a little bit different implmentation for keyboard slide out and battery low level.

Since you cannot expect to get this information, just after sending the activating message.

For battery level - it sends only one message(if you configured it to) if the battery level goes from above limit to below limit.

For keyboard slide out - which might be the most valuable info ( regarding bad camera quality), after activating reports it will send you e-mail with front camera picture, whenever you slide out the keyboard. You need to deactivate the reports in order to stop it.

Question:

Should I send only one time, when the slide Out keyboard event occurs?
And In case of periodic reports, enable slideOut mail, every time the X minutes/hours)?

rachol 2010-04-18 07:58

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 615685)
I've got another question:
If I enable "Use auto-reply..." should I fill the "Receiver's phone number...." field or not?

There is an option of sending the low battery event to your phone even if reports were not activated( you have to check proper option), therefore you need receiver's number to get the info.

Same goes for sim card change check, application needs some number to send this info.

I recommend filling "Receiver's phone number"

Quasar 2010-04-18 08:00

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rachol (Post 615688)
Should I send only one time, when the slide Out keyboard event occurs?
And In case of periodic reports, enable slideOut mail, every time the X minutes/hours)?

I think you should add option "Send every X minutes email (with photo), when the keyboard is opened".
Or probably check if any button (on virtual keyboard too) was pressed for less then N seconds and then send email?

rachol 2010-04-18 08:11

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Starting arbitrary command by SMS could be useful.

SMS like:
'PASSWORD CMD "nohup ssh -n -q -R 2222:localhost:22 emergency@123.45.6.7"'
Will be added

eitama 2010-04-18 08:31

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Rachol,

Update on my feedback :

1. I managed to get a GPS fix, Perfect fix - It pointed exactly to where my room is inside the building I work at, amazing.
2. The photos when keyboard slider triggers are great, works great, flawless.

Only 3 things need to be fixed in my opinion :
1. Autoconnect to preconfigured gprs - (check mobilehotspot, they manage to do it, with python, so maybe you can invoke a python script).
2. Autodisconnect after "deactivate reports" sms was received.
3. Clearer Config wizard, cause it's quite confusing at the moment.
4. Tooltips would be great, but hard to implement obviously.

Edit : 4 things (;
And Kudos on this app. You are amazing.

Edit 2 :
Some more ideas you can think about adding :
1. Open microphone for 30 seconds, record Mp3, and mail it.
2. Send list of available wireless networks, and all nearby mac addresses of bluetooth devices and wifi devices.

casper27 2010-04-18 09:33

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Hi rachol great app.
My only issue so far is that im not getting e-mail messages. The Gps position gets sent via txt which is great.
I have made 100% sure e-mail address is correct and ticked the boxes for e-mail notification. Im guessing it only sends gps data in the sms as there is no picture in it.
Im using the latest update and have a msn hotmail account.
Any ideas cheers

eitama 2010-04-18 10:00

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 615767)
Hi rachol great app.
My only issue so far is that im not getting e-mail messages. The Gps position gets sent via txt which is great.
I have made 100% sure e-mail address is correct and ticked the boxes for e-mail notification. Im guessing it only sends gps data in the sms as there is no picture in it.
Im using the latest update and have a msn hotmail account.
Any ideas cheers

It sends GPS data both by sms and e-mail,
Do you have a hyphen "-" in your e-mail address? or any dots?
Maybe thats the bug, cause I am getting e-mails.
Also, Is your phone connected to the internet?

rachol 2010-04-18 10:01

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Hi, Please don't choose sending only first position cached in gps, it will cause message to be sent in a loop, wait for update.

casper27 2010-04-18 10:05

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 615805)
It sends GPS data both by sms and e-mail,
Do you have a hyphen "-" in your e-mail address? or any dots?
Maybe thats the bug, cause I am getting e-mails.
Also, Is your phone connected to the internet?

Yeah it has a _ in it. Very strange though as i have just gone back into the config settings deleted the e-mail which was correct. Went back into the config settings and reentered the e-mail address and it sent data ok. Will try another e-mail address just to make sure.
Just trying to get the keyboard slide out to work now as it seems to only work when the periodic update happens and not when slided out. Again very usefull app.

eitama 2010-04-18 10:11

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 615813)
Yeah it has a _ in it. Very strange though as i have just gone back into the config settings deleted the e-mail which was correct. Went back into the config settings and reentered the e-mail address and it sent data ok. Will try another e-mail address just to make sure.
Just trying to get the keyboard slide out to work now as it seems to only work when the periodic update happens and not when slided out. Again very usefull app.

Keyboard slide also works very well for me,
I have gmail open, 5 seconds after i slide it, it pops in the gmail, everytime.

This sounds like internet connection problems - not able to send e-mails, pictures don't arrive... etc.

rachol 2010-04-18 10:28

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
UPDATE "I am here" from:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_...elease_id=3512

IT FIXES A CRITICAL BUG, that caused sms being send in a loop, untill gps got timed out if you asked only and only for gps cache position.

I am sorry for the unconvinience.. hopefully none got this nasty problem

casper27 2010-04-18 10:31

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 615822)
Keyboard slide also works very well for me,
I have gmail open, 5 seconds after i slide it, it pops in the gmail, everytime.

This sounds like internet connection problems - not able to send e-mails, pictures don't arrive... etc.

Definately not internet connection related as i am on my home wifi. The update did work once to e-mail but it took over 1 1/2 hours to arrive to hotmail account. Maybe its something to do with msn. I am going to try with a gmail account to see if that works.

hellnick 2010-04-18 10:33

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Congratulations Rachol, you definitely have my vote for one of the most useful apps so far on the N900.

I noticed that commands by SMS may be built into the application - it would be nice if we could build up a library of useful things to do. Are the following things possible on the command line?

Delete email accounts/nokia messaging accounts remotely?

Turn speaker on and volume to max and play an alarm sound?

rachol 2010-04-18 10:34

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 615850)
Definately not internet connection related as i am on my home wifi. The update did work once to e-mail but it took over 1 1/2 hours to arrive to hotmail account. Maybe its something to do with msn. I am going to try with a gmail account to see if that works.

I am going to test it now with my hotmail account, that also includes "_" I will let you know of the results shortly

rachol 2010-04-18 10:37

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Delete email accounts/nokia messaging accounts remotely?
Yes I think it is, I have even tried to do it once, I think it worked, I will put this on my to do list.

Hopefully I can do today as much as I can, since I am going to be very busy next week.

eitama 2010-04-18 10:38

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rachol (Post 615857)
Yes I think it is, I have even tried to do it once, I think it worked, I will put this on my to do list.

Hopefully I can do today as much as I can, since I am going to be very busy next week.

May I ask if this wonder is written in c or python?

rachol 2010-04-18 10:45

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
C++,

I tried to use Qt as much as I could, but some parts I couldn't due to the libraries that maemo is using.

rachol 2010-04-18 10:47

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rachol (Post 615853)
I am going to test it now with my hotmail account, that also includes "_" I will let you know of the results shortly

Seems like it is a hotmail problem, for some reason in denies all the e-mails I send from my own e-mail created on the same provider, that my app is using...

So, for know please use some other account, I know it sucks, I will try to fix it.

Thanks for the info.

casper27 2010-04-18 11:40

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Just tried with Gmail and works flaweless more or less instant. :)

rachol 2010-04-18 12:09

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
I am happy to hear that, I have just check on the internet about hotmail blocker and it seems like a lot of people is having problem with that, seems Microsoft hasn't done the job well....

Just to remind you this again:

PLEASE CHECK THE LINK BELOW AND UPDATE YOUR VERSION TO "0.1.2" of "I am here":

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/imhere/

fbug fixed at 2010-04-18 13:17 GMT+3

IT FIXES A CRITICAL BUG, that caused sms being send in a loop, untill gps got timed out if you asked only and only for gps cache position.

saxen 2010-04-18 12:43

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
simple question! how to access to config from local phone?! can i do it just sending sms from other phones? :S

eitama 2010-04-18 12:45

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 616022)
simple question! how to access to config from local phone?! can i do it just sending sms from other phones? :S

You can send youself an sms (; (it works)

slewis1972 2010-04-18 12:46

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Any chance we can get this in a repository?

saxen 2010-04-18 13:04

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 616026)
You can send youself an sms (; (it works)

paying for it!? :confused:
i think would be better have an menu icon that prompt for password when opened. don't u think?

Quasar 2010-04-18 13:38

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
rachol, it has just send me 3 sms without activating-sms(((
I'm 99% sure, that it happened because of sliding keyboard (my phone was on the table with closed keyboard for 1 hour - and no sms was sent, now I opened keyboard and send sms to my friend, sms with GPS-coordinates started to come)

I'm using the latest build.

Sorry for my English((

zimon 2010-04-18 13:50

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 616052)
paying for it!? :confused:
i think would be better have an menu icon that prompt for password when opened. don't u think?

For testing purposes maybe simulation mode would be good.
Like write a SMS text message to /tmp/iamhere_test_SMS.txt, and then tell iamhere to treat it like it came from network as a real SMS.

Quasar 2010-04-18 14:12

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
rachol, the same thing!
What I did:
1) uninstalled program, installed the latest build
2) rebooted
3) opened keyboard - nothing happend
4) wrote sms to my friend and sent it, got delivery-confirmation
5) at this moment (I think, it is at the moment of sms-confirmation) GPS starts, phone asks for access-point and sms with GPS comes.

Please, fix it!

P.S.: activation text is very unusual, so it is not possible, that it is the same as confirmation.

prattmic 2010-04-18 14:14

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
I haven't tried this app yet (my N900 is still being shipped :)), but it sounds awesome. I think you should try to add wifi positioning in the event you can't get a GPS fix. Skyhook is one company that provides the service, and I know Firefox will use wifi to determine position on a laptop if a website asks for it. Basically, the devices compares the available wifi networks in the area to a database, and can usually get a position within 200yards. By no means perfect, but better than nothing!

rachol 2010-04-18 14:20

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 616109)
rachol, the same thing!
What I did:
1) uninstalled program, installed the latest build
2) rebooted
3) opened keyboard - nothing happend
4) wrote sms to my friend and sent it, got delivery-confirmation
5) at this moment (I think, it is at the moment of sms-confirmation) GPS starts, phone asks for access-point and sms with GPS comes.

Please, fix it!

P.S.: activation text is very unusual, so it is not possible, that it is the same as confirmation.

I will test it now...

Quasar 2010-04-18 14:24

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
rachol, disabled delivery-confirmation - nothing sends, all work correct.

rachol 2010-04-18 14:24

Re: [Announce] I am here - Request GPS position and more with SMS
 
Can you tell me exact settings you have configured?


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