Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

btw.
What are downsides of using mmc for running meego. Reason for this is, that if there is some performance issues e.g. program zyx loads too long etc. then should people write bug report or should they first try to install it to nand? Something maybe to add here:
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

thanks alot for the quick answer! :)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo 1.1 Development Release 1.0.80.16.20100824.1 is availabe

MeeGo has been updated

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Where can i find/buy an "Aava" Handset?

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

http://www.aavamobile.com/

They'll only cost you ~$2K USD per handset though.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

You don't want to use core- images. Get them from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php, new release up.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

meego<>nokia, you mean

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php


Blues

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

We're working on fixing this situation.. first one is BME for RX-51 appearing as redistributable for non-commercial use in non-oss section, then the rest should fall..*

(* It's quite annoying to deal with closed blobs, but at least it's going in the right direction)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

He means your URL is wrong..tablets-dev.meego.com doesn't load.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

He was talking about the domain on your latest post :p

http://tablets-dev.meego.com/meego-codedrop.php
should be
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Only one word fits that:

D'oh!

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Just got this update on Meego:

Status summary for supported hardware
=====================================


Highlights and Issues:


Handset, Aava:

* Music player crash reported in the preview release are no longer seen.
* Email icon is still unavailable (now a red block is seen in its
place) (Bug 7003)
* Logical strings appear on the settings applications (Bug 7612)
* Screen is blank on start up, tapping on the screen once shows up
the home screen (Bug 5705)
* VKB has issues launching and operating. VKB launching is not
consistent, the user is unable to see characters getting entered in
the text area. (Bug 6047)
* Email, social networking applications present in the application
matrix but they are not fully useable. It’s usage is blocked due to
the VKB issue.
* Touch screen calibration is still a bit skewed. (Bug 4985)
* The typed content not displayed unless VKB is closed. (Bug 6047)
* Certain applications have missing icons, red blocks are shown
instead. (Bug 3921)
* Calibration application is broken, on exiting turns the screen
blank, recovering to the home screen is very difficult. (Bug 5127)
* Audio still does not work on Aava, though the default media is visible.


Handset, Pinetrail:


* Email icon is not appearing in the quick launch area. (Bug 7003)
* Logical strings appear on the settings applications (Bug 7612)
* Screen remains black after boot up, tapping on the touchpad reveals
the home UI (Bug 3916)
* Tapping on text entry blocks out the whole screen. (Bug 5606)
* Applications that require configurations (Chat, Social Networking,
Email) is blocked due to this.
* Default videos still unavailable.
* X-term is not working correctly. (Bug 3551)
* Trying to open the status area by clicking and dragging down the
top area of the screen blacks out the screen (Bug 3561)


Handset, N900:

* Browser launching is still broken (Bug 4021)
* Most applications launch and work normally
* Battery charging does not work, bug listed as fixed (Bug 2260)


Netbook, generic ia32 netbook:

* Image found to be quite stable.
* No major issues spotted.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Note that these reports are about the weekly development builds. They are expected to be (occasionally and somewhat) broken.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

The state of the meego project is constantly changing and like any software project may work one week but may break the next - it's the nature of software development..

I usually post these reports now and again just to give people here a general idea of the state of the meego project - it seems to be pretty good.

I imagine many people here on maemo.org are getting pretty excited about the next release.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Certainly - I was just noting it to people who might not be that familiar with development practices so we would avoid jumping to conclusions. Seeing development actually happening in the open might be slightly disorienting for users, too ! :)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Software is a bit like sausages in that respect. If watching it being made makes you squeamish, just don't and wait for the final product instead.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Especially under tight deadlines. Some truly ugly code has been written as a consequence.

Sausages made with mashed-up cow sphincters doesn't seem so bad.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

This is definitely NOT the way good software is being developed!
Regressions have to be avoided strictly (!). No commitment into the main development pool without doing specified unit tests. Everything else is (sorry Meego-Devs) foolish.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Generally you're right but with low-level hardware programming it isn't always the case.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Remember that much of the MeeGo work is integration related - and upstream stuff itself is a fairly moving target. Murphy usually makes sure you have a circular issue-dependency somewhere so if you don't commit until it's without regressions chances are you'll end up with nothing ever committed.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Alrighty folks, we should hopefully see phone working in the next weekly build. It happens to be good timing as well, because code freeze is very soon.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

That means it's not working already? :S

Well, as I may reflash my device I might give meego a try first...

Let you know if I do ;)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

nitroid isn't far off either :) good to see boths teams doing really well :)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Sounds good.

Sorry to be off-topic*, but does anyone know the possibility of successful MeeGo adaptation to N8x0?

* I would post in the N8x0 thread, but it was closed. :(

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

It's possible, but realistically the chances aren't that great because it depends on working GL drivers. Besides, even if hw adaptation is eventually successful, neither the netbook (tuned for 1024x600 displays) nor handset (phone-oriented) UX seem like a very good match for these devices.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Yea, unlikely.

I'm thinking of putting a different UX on top of core MeeGo.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

How did Stskeeps get on with having the N8x0 PowerVR drivers opened up?

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

For those that want to keep track of the Overall Handset UX program here is the link to the wiki page

Including features and progress

http://wiki.meego.com/Handset_Program

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

My understanding is that what was opened was not in a good state. Challenges still ahead.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

I've heard that in the latest MeeGo handset release (this weeks release 1.0.90.4.20100924.1) calling and SMS is working On N900.
I might give it a try later if i find the time

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

wait another 3 more days and get the RC1 ver. :)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

battery charging does not work huh?? I wonder how they can even unbrick or fix this once the battery dies. If u can't charge it then that's as good as dead........they must have like 9000+ N900s to test this, either that or they probably have an external battery charger or multiple spare batteries.......coz afaik, i couldn't find any external chargers on the net.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

Bro, external charger is on Trademe, just search for the battery model and it will come out. I got one from TradeMe as well.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

ya i did ages ago, and did a search just then and still can't find it.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

I'll dig out my TradeMe dealer for you. I got mine from there.

That was easy lol. You just don't have a clue what to search for.

Anyway here it is.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phon...-320109479.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phon...-320320802.htm

This is what I got back then:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=261431633

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

also if you are that techy enough you could make your own handy external charger. Dealing with amperes, voltages and step down transformers and diodes isn't hard if you know how they work.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 

I was thinking of hardwiring a old charger.