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bahamutn 2010-05-02 13:46

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
With the new leak firmware of course

nuknuk 2010-05-02 13:46

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Wow its like being in school cant you all just wait till the officially update is out.

rickysio 2010-05-02 13:47

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutn (Post 638348)
well I tried and it didnt change into portrait mode

Rotate your phone to portrait in the browser and shake it.

rickysio 2010-05-02 13:48

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nielsvg (Post 638332)
but i installed pr1.2 and now i get an error when refreshing

That's from maemo.org, which is the repo for extras, as it searches for fremantle-1.2 distros, which doesn't exist yet.

Create a new repo for extras but put fremantle for Distribution this time.

AtteK0 2010-05-02 13:48

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutn (Post 638348)
well I tried and it didnt change into portrait mode

In that case go to the Options -> Settings -> Enable rotation (X)

bahamutn 2010-05-02 13:48

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
tried that as well but still no luck >.<

rpgAmazon 2010-05-02 13:49

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutn (Post 638348)
well I tried and it didnt change into portrait mode

Browser Options-settings-allow turn (translated for spanish menu, I don't know exactly how named in other countries version)

EDIT: Sorry, Attek0 wins...:o

Andy214 2010-05-02 13:49

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 638195)
It is not yet because it is still in testing. It is probably still in testing because of THIS

The meego release =/= a firmware update

I didn't say MeeGo release = a firmware update.

They're serious and work hard on MeeGo release, there's even accurate information on the previous release.

Who doesn't know it's still under testing? It will take a long time if they're planning a major update, perhaps they should make more minor updates to fix some of the bugs that is annoying in PR1.1.1

As for current "unofficial" PR1.2 or RC version, as mentioned in that thread, only the person having that problem, so I'm not sure if it is because of the update.
But I have another problem with this PR1.2:
1. The previous OVI Store and Maemo icon/shortcut (which have frame like Bookmarks, was no longer available; The icons show some green thing, after I remove and re-add them again, it now shows a normal shortcut icon without the frame.
2. Seems there is a bug in the 4th Desktop, after I customize the Desktop, I click "Done", but it didn't return to normal, still in customization mode, when I hit the middle top, it shows the battery, clock, alarm, etc as if it was already in normal mode.
I found a solution for this by swiping to the main desktop, it's still in Customization mode, press the power button once to bring up the menu, cancel it and press "DONE". Now it's ok.

rickysio 2010-05-02 13:49

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Going to Options -> Settings -> Enable Rotation should work.

AtteK0 2010-05-02 13:50

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutn (Post 638355)
tried that as well but still no luck >.<

Which firmware do you have? The new one (PR1.2) has it in the options, the older ones have it by ctrl + shift + o (o like an orangatang). The oldest does not have it at all...

AtteK0 2010-05-02 13:51

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 638357)
Browser Options-settings-allow turn (translated for spanish menu, I don't know exactly how named in other countries version)

EDIT: Sorry, Attek0 wins...:o

Buahahaa :p As always...

Heman1310 2010-05-02 13:53

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
I really wanted Nokia to improve kinetic scrolling. Its soo choppy :(

AtteK0 2010-05-02 13:54

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
The update PR1.2 has been ready for months. It has not been released because we have to wait for something for us to be even a little excited with our half-dead OSs. After this, there probably won´t be any updates for the N900 Maemo 5 ever again. Meego and Symbian^3 and all the coders are probably sucked to those projects...

jaysire 2010-05-02 13:55

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Yup, it was a dick move to close the other thread - especially since they couldn't be forthcoming about whether Nokia demanded it or not. Why must there be such secrecy and politicizing of everything? It's not like it's brought Nokia to the absolute top of the business...

Maybe this will give someone an impulse to start another forum about the N900, where these matters *can* be discussed. This would certainly be a good opportunity to get a lot of posts in a short time. People are always discouraged by forums where there are only 17 posts in one area and 19 in the other...

rickysio 2010-05-02 13:58

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 638366)
Yup, it was a dick move to close the other thread - especially since they couldn't be forthcoming about whether Nokia demanded it or not. Why must there be such secrecy and politicizing of everything? It's not like it's brought Nokia to the absolute top of the business...

Maybe this will give someone an impulse to start another forum about the N900, where these matters *can* be discussed. This would certainly be a good opportunity to get a lot of posts in a short time. People are always discouraged by forums where there are only 17 posts in one area and 19 in the other...

Remove the links, but allow discussion. Is it that HARD?

rpgAmazon 2010-05-02 14:03

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638367)
Remove the links, but allow discussion. Is it that HARD?

The thread is closed.

hellnick 2010-05-02 14:04

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638367)
Remove the links, but allow discussion. Is it that HARD?

Yes, but the discussion would be:

"can someone give me the torrent for PR1.2 LOL"

"Sure, here it is ROFL"

"How do I use a torrent? BBQ!!!"

"WHY ARE MY POSTS BEING DELETED????????????"

etcetera

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:06

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hellnick (Post 638374)
Yes, but the discussion would be:

"can someone give me the torrent for PR1.2 LOL"

"Sure, here it is ROFL"

"How do I use a torrent? BBQ!!!"

"WHY ARE MY POSTS BEING DELETED????????????"

etcetera

Well, but locking... that's not going to stop those that want them from PM-ing the names in the thread who HAVE the image.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-02 14:09

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638376)
Well, but locking... that's not going to stop those that want them from PM-ing the names in the thread who HAVE the image.

Yes, of course. The best option is delete the entire thread, ban all the posters... we could go further... we could kill them.

oxford 2010-05-02 14:09

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Sticking to the original topic, one big improvement for me is that one can now also search for albums by typing the name (a bit sluggish, but better than having to flick through several hundred albums...).

AtteK0 2010-05-02 14:11

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Lets try to keep this thread clean of any links regarding "you know what". I am pretty sure though that anyone who wanted the update got it already. The most embarassing thing for Nokia was that the thread was there for hours without any kind of concern of getting closed...

They closed the thread, then removed the links. It is clearly a better strategy than removing them first, then doing something else.

BTW This is why internet is not an ideal place for a big company with something as easily distributed as an operating system... One guy finds out where it is and half an hour later couple of thousand people are testing PR1.2 out...

spoonbuddy 2010-05-02 14:12

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamutn (Post 638355)
tried that as well but still no luck >.<

have you tried closing the keyboard?

rpgAmazon 2010-05-02 14:12

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford (Post 638383)
Sticking to the original topic, one big improvement for me is that one can now also search for albums by typing the name (a bit sluggish, but better than having to flick through several hundred albums...).

... and search for apps to install same way, really nice.

titi974 2010-05-02 14:13

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
do anyone know if skype chat finally works ?

aliirz 2010-05-02 14:14

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
so officially Qt now? thats more than enough for me time for some serious Qt development. Qt SDK here i come

Crashdamage 2010-05-02 14:14

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638365)
The update PR1.2 has been ready for months. It has not been released because we have to wait for something for us to be even a little excited with our half-dead OSs. After this, there probably won´t be any updates for the N900 Maemo 5 ever again. Meego and Symbian^3 and all the coders are probably sucked to those projects...

None of that is even remotely true. If really so, state real sources to back it up.

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:15

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 638391)
... and search for apps to install same way, really nice.

The only bone i have to pick with that system is that when 1 repo goes down, so does your ability to search. :(

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:16

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 638399)
None of that is even remotely true. If really so, state real sources to back it up.

The PR 1.2 SDK was available for quite some time. When they are capable of delivering an SDK, what makes you think they didn't have PR 1.2 already?

AtteK0 2010-05-02 14:16

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
A month or so ago "a few selected ones" were sent PR1.2s for them to try them out and check for bugs. Certainly it was far from ready back then and I do not know how old the update is what we have got.

How much longer we would had to have waited for the update if it weren´t for this?

God's Toy 2010-05-02 14:18

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Question about the FM radio, Still working (Transmit and receiver?) What about Youtube? playing any better?
Battery life? Ram usage?

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:19

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God's Toy (Post 638408)
Question about the FM radio, Still working (Transmit and receiver?) What about Youtube? playing any better?
Battery life? Ram usage?

FM radio still works for both. Youtube... Let me try.

Battery life - can't tell, not dry yet! Certainly no worse than PR 1.1.1

RAM usage shouldn't matter - we do have 768MB of swap in addition.

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:22

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
I've discovered that for browsing history, long press on back arrow.

Youtube seems smoother now, but can't really tell objectively by how much. Same video is now buttery smooth, even without using fullscreen mode.

Edit : Shall try 1080p Avatar Trailer! :D

AtteK0 2010-05-02 14:23

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God's Toy (Post 638408)
Question about the FM radio, Still working (Transmit and receiver?) What about Youtube? playing any better?
Battery life? Ram usage?

Maemo youtube (the low-quality-one) works as well as before, maybe better. The real Youtube is still stuttering (not overclocked) but is better than before...

Crashdamage 2010-05-02 14:24

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638404)
A month or so ago "a few selected ones" were sent PR1.2s for them to try them out and check for bugs. Certainly it was far from ready back then and I do not know how old the update is what we have got.

Exactly. So how do you get "The update PR1.2 has been ready for months." You just said "Certainly it was far from ready back then". Can't have it both ways.

Quote:

How much longer we would had to have waited for the update if it weren´t for this?
Until it was ready.

AtteK0 2010-05-02 14:24

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
FM-transmitter is pretty much the same it used to be.

ste-phan 2010-05-02 14:25

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Improved and not easy to measure:

Rendering speed of websites:

-Synology disk station manager web page in Ajax is not 1,5 times faster
-Dutch news site www.deredactie.be renders correctly (before PR 1.2 it gave 2 x some kind of script error: stop running script?

-Skype vid calls: yes yes it kinda works! For some that might be not such a great breakthrough but this N900 device is still foremost a portable phone then computer and adding video is a great thing and no.. not every mobile network provider can or wants to offer an alternative. Over here they charge you per minute for 3G vid calls.

-Ovi maps has now street navigation - no voice guidance, no saving of POI / Landmarks

geneven 2010-05-02 14:27

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 638311)
Does your screen calibration crash after first press of the sircle? Mine does.

That's an overclocking thing, historically.

AtteK0 2010-05-02 14:27

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 638421)
Exactly. So how do you get "The update PR1.2 has been ready for months." You just said "Certainly it was far from ready back then". Can't have it both ways.


Until it was ready.

That is what happens when you do not quote the whole post. I said this update we all got may be an old one. No one knows that. Not even you. Did you get your PR1.2 already or why are you so cranky :D The update has been ready for release for weeks.

rickysio 2010-05-02 14:28

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638417)
Maemo youtube (the low-quality-one) works as well as before, maybe better. The real Youtube is still stuttering (not overclocked) but is better than before...

Well, I tried 480p with 750MHz, by adding &fmt=18 behind the url (it staunchly refused to go above 480p) but it didn't play.

Ok, reloaded, now it's a slideshow. :/

Enyibinakata 2010-05-02 14:31

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s15mos (Post 638303)
is it me or are the repos a bit slow in downloading apps coz every1 is reinstalling everything now?
btw love the update... the phone is way more responsive and so many cool new features which makes the phone nearer to perfection... only thing waiting on now is 3g video calling and newer flash support/ ability to use chatroulette on the n900

So PR 1.2 update does improve the device significantly ? If so then I have a feeling that those who dumped n900 recently will have much to regret.


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