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So it makes sense to include a portrait browser but no keyboard? Please explain that to me because it makes zero sense to me.

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That's because you are so wrong. Just because you can get someone to agree with you doesn't prove your point. Making apps prove their innocence would cause unnecessary delay. What if PR1.2 had had to prove that it was perfect? When would it have come out?

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How can you even say this, what is going on in your mind? no way am i even wrong yet alone soo wrong because it has now became common knowledge on this forum that some apps do indeed screw up the OS !.
I appreciate constructive comments but the comments you are making are very wrong and to be honest i just don't understand why your saying what your saying.... you think i am some "noob" that says something without knowing huh.
Please do be careful what you say because it can very easy turn into an argument.
In the world of programming progression can only take place when everything is looked at and put right and if someone makes a comment it should ALWAYS be looked into instead of pointless and aimless talk, that is the only way this community will progress past the argumentative stage and move on to better days.

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Here is the thread i started and the opening comments.... READ geneven and it might just start to make sense to you now.

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After reading many of the problems with the N900 something is becoming very clear and that is the OS of the N900 is getting damaged enough to put it into a loop situation and re-booting problems are now becoming more and more of a ongoing situation with the N900.
One of the most important part of ANY application developed for the N900 or any OS should always have a COMPLETE uninstall option that is simply either not taken into consideration not working or not implemented within the app itself.
The countless reasons now for re-flashing are becoming more and more apparent and all down to bad programming that is either NOT checked out properly with enough field testing or checked for un-installation PRIOR to being released as a credible installable application on this forum.
If an application cannot be proved to be capable of un-installation COMPLETELY leaving the os EXACTLY as it was prior to installation then it is leading to a complete re-flash situation and should never be allowed as a credible application to start with.
These are my thoughts and i would love to read other people's thoughts regarding this.
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Re: Pr1.2 sucks!!!!!!!
 

It doesn't make sense but complaining about it now is...

The changelog has been out. We all knew what was coming. We knew what bugs were fixed and what weren't. Why the sudden outrage now?

Besides if the portrait browsing without a keyboard pisses you off, you could always use Opera. It has a portrait keyboard

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Thread title is ... Beware of some applications available on this forum can seriously damage the os.

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Well obviously PR 1.2 has issues but you cant say that it sucks or its worse than PR 1.1.1.

I agree that vkb is horrible and on top of that it makes little sense to have portrait browser but landscape vkb + if you try to bookmark a website it also changes to landscape mode which is stupid :)

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If people now look at that thread they will see a perfect example of how this community can be bad.
Many members jumped on me over this and called me an idiot basically.
It does not matter to them that i come from a pcb cad design and programming background for over 2 decades?.
All that matters is that people see sense and start to listen to people now and then because untill that does indeed happen this community is going no where !.

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It doesn't have Flash and Opera's user agent says Opera mobile facebook and most Google websites open in mobile mode

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My computer doesn't have portrait mode

This is a matter of personal preference. I think the VKB with the an-Droid theme is awesome

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Computer? I'm talking about Opera Mobile for N900 , what's wrong with you man?

Dont make such an ignorant statement VKB is smaller, less intuitive and its harder to type on it , just because the theme author updated it for PR 1.2 doesn't mean its awesome

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See, how is that complaining when somebody asks for the reasons behind certain decisions? Perhaps future updates will not continue those overseen issues.

But with that said, you are 100% correct. Can use Opera.

One just have to hope that in the future, Microb will also have a portrait keyboard.

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I'm referring to the OP with the complaint thing

My bad. I thought we were talking about unimportant sh*t.



So I am ignorant because I prefer the VKB now?

Calm down now. Nothing you say is going to make me think it is not awesome. That is why it is a matter of personal preference. I type as fast as I do on my iTouch with the new VKB.

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whatever, you're just talking nonsense about Opera , my device has a native browser why would I need to install another browser (luckily Opera is free and has great vkb but if I follow your logic you would suggest to me to buy Sigic if I want voice navigation right?... I dont care whether you think its awesome or not I'm just saying that in my opinion previous keyboard layout was much better you cant deny that ...one thing is that maybe you have tiny fingers which makes sense..anyway try to understand what I was saying

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Plzzz can one help me out,,,that how can I create new post????????????????

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Well, if you want Sat Nav so bad then you should pay for it.


Yes, I can deny it. You keep stating your opinion like it is the general consensus.

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OK thank you for your time :)

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Abiluk, I carefully read your comments when you first posted them, and I just read them again. You seem to have difficulty comprehending that someone can responsibly disagree with you. You might reread the thread that you are referring to and note that I made comments in it.

I'm not going to respond further to you here out of a sense of mercy to other readers and out of a maxim that I made up a long time ago: "Everyone is out of their mind on one subject or another; all you can do is try to discover those subjects and stay away from them when dealing with those persons."

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Your comments have no grounding whatsoever and untill you can prove to me just what is going on that you disagree with then your one of the persons to avoid on this community!.

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Geneven i am convinced you talk bull just for the hell of it so instead of saying what your saying tell me exactly what it is you disagree with in that thread with the opening post because i fail to see your logic.

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i admit after all that waiting, you'd expect PR1.2 to be better. but i dont see anything wrong with the update. only see improvements.
recaller seems to be working fine with me. same with most other apps. except conversations inbox which doesnt show up but theres a new update that fixes that.
i had enhanced kernal installed but it crashed my ph with 850 oc and again at 800. ive uninstalled it since and havnt seen any problems yet. so maybe all the problems alot of people are experiencing could be related to the custom kernal

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I disagree with the suggestion that more restrictions should be put on allowing programs to be made available in extras-devel. I disagree that there is a problem to which that is a solution. And I don't want to discuss it further here because it is not appropriate. If you want to discuss that topic further, feel free to open that thread and make more comments. This thread is on the subject of PR1.2 sucks!!!!!! and I don't want to kidnap it.

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As long as people check out every app etc they want to install prior to actually installing from users who have installed successfully without any known or unknown problems then they will have a lot less trouble with their devices.
It is all too easy to install something from the download sections of this forum because on the surface of the writeup it looks good.
I am not the kind of person to point a finger at any specific programmer on here that makes an app and gets it to the download section without proper bench testing because up to now this community does not work in that way as it does not have the resources it appears to have a dedicated team of app testers and the full os source code available with all drivers so there might lye the problem of bench testing apps to get them to download capability with NO problems.
Having a warning on apps is not good enough in my opinion simply because too many noobs will install these apps and then put the n900's into a loop situation requiring a flash.
Somehow there has to be tighter controls over apps on a forum open to anyone and everyone for download as it will make actual progression a lot lot quicker.
PR1.2 is a good improvement from the last update but it needs time to iron out the flaws and find the new bugs that come with it.
My opinion is that the OS we currently have is not solid enough to withstand random programming and is without proper structuring of a test bed analysis system for the os.
The os we have currently is a very basic one incorporating all the drivers needed to run the N900 and is not solid enough or structured in the right way to protect itself, hence why i think a proper un-install be there for any app (that means COMPLETE removal of all code) to leave the os as it was prior to install.
The proof this is not the case comes from all the users who indeed have to flash to get back to square one.
Damm Nokia for selling a device with such open structure to everyone and anyone on the planet because it will for sure as it is already doing so bring trouble and criticism to Nokia.
Nokia's biggest problem is time ! they take far too long to correct a software fault (such as ussd).
Finally i must say that the mix of general public (some act like yobs on here) and programmers in general is a bad bad match on a community.

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lol the thread author is as sucks as his thread title. you sucks!

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rotflmao!!!!!!!!

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no **** sherlock?

:D

this just made my day...

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you don't know how to click links?

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You need internet for an internet tablet, only if it lasts through the day. This n900 doesn't . I charge it twice a day with low-to-moderate usage. PR 1.2 and n900 truly does suck (not giving head u c**t). There is nothing which hasn't been said about it. As a loyal Nokia customer for over 10 yrs. I hope to God iphone blows the living piss out of Nokia. F****n ******s !!!!

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My n900 has been on all day. Finally charged it. It's 3:51 am

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Hi
i have problem with reinstalling (new install) a software on my n900. I am doing with nokia software updater. It stucks every time on 6,3 % downloading software. Where is the problem. I want to do that becouse i want clear install PR 1.2.
Help me please

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Show me how to go to a site you've never bookmarked or been to before whilst in portrait mode.

Youtube it, please.

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Your going to have to manually flash by downloading the latest update and flashing to your device using flasher 3.5.

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same here: i compared the GPS Raw data with my N97 the GPS calculates and deliveres the right info. But the maps seem to need a calibration. However, I am about 400 to 600 meters off to the east.
Need a fix, Nokia. Urgently

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why should I do it?!

I like the portrait mode when I can click tmo link @ desktop and read these useless threads through. nice and convenient and can be done with one hand while walking my dog for example.

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please give me some link with instructions. I saw something on net but there was not PR 1.2 but the old one.
Thank you

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What a cute Kitty

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I have read from numerous posts about extended battery life and other "improvements" with the update. I have had the opposite experience. My phone fully charged before I go to bed will die at some point during the night and my alarm will not go off! This never happened prior to the update and it is very annoying.
Any recommendations on how I can fix this problem? I don't have a ton of "apps" and I am a noob so any resolution that requires X terminal will have to be explained as though I were a 3 yr old :-)

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First of all, PR 1.2 works perfectly for me. Everything is smoother, battery life is some 20% better, maps is more usable (they fixed the totally horrid point-to-point routing). The few issues with some applications were fixable with some short googling.

But, you guys completely fail to understand the mentality of Finnish engineers here. They design products mainly for themselves. When something unexpected happens, something doesn't work, the device gets bricked, these engineers mainly get excited "geez, that shouldn't happen... curious".

Bottom line: I feel so sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying an N900 w/o knowing what you were getting into. This is a DIY phone. Period.

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Finish engineers build schit to fail for the fun of it?

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more or less, yeah.

But don't tell them that straight to face, you might get the Ballmer effect.