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Note that it's in testing by -manufacturers- but it is not at all available to the larger Android community. Whereas with MeeGo, the intention is that the bleeding edge of MeeGo will always be available to the public and manufacturers at the same time. Certainly, that's where I hope we are going with this.

That's one reason I will stick with MeeGo and not Android.

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We had better hope so. This is really boring and uninspired. If anything, it is what Symbian^4 could look like and get away with. All the talk about Maemo being a chance to do something beyond phones - there's nothing of that in today's release.

Not quite liking the fact that you can supposedly switch between the card switcher and grid switcher in Harmattan either. The advanced option should be the default, or even the only one, because even novices will benefit from it when they "get it". We're not talking vi level learning curves here.

This UI reeks of MeeGo finally becoming so big that the beancounters have started pushing it to a more mainstream mode of operation. But that will fail, because

a) Nokia doesn't need two Symbians

b) the N9 is at this point even more important as an advertising exercise than as a device, and it needs to make a big splash or Nokia's credibility is lost. Matching everyone else two years later is not enough. It needs to go where no one else will go, because Nokia is the only one that can tell all the people who can't handle it to buy Symbian instead.

c) the reference UI will probably be less advanced than the coming Android UI update.

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meego, who cares about it?
why are we using pr1.2
we should use pr1.1 to get free paid apps on ovi

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One other thing came to mind: it better have widgets, or else I'm just going to stick with Maemo5.

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It already IS 'mid-2010' - June 30th. And Android 2.2 is just trickling out. So I'm gonna stick my neck out and predict the rumors were wrong.

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Like Symbian, MeeGo-Harmattan will support Nokia Web Runtime (WRT), which should bring loads of widgets. While I have not yet tried the plug-in for Aptana Studio, it appears to be fairly slick.

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so true...

I believe the look of the UI can be improved
... but I really miss the genius concept of Harmattan: having desktop filled with “operational” widgets (widgets which allows you to have almost full functionality of a application right on a screen without going into app itself) it was something that was making the UI ultra functional

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I find it funny the contrast between Engadget's commenters (they love it!) and TMO...Mainstream.

Oh and by the way are there any screenshots of the email application?

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I remember what Canola main dev said once:

"We are not the users."

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Yes, it will. At least have widgets in home screens..

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Yes, and that's a healthy attitude, but take it too far and you end up with Gnome.

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I kinda like the UI.... its like a weird mix of iOS4 and Android. On acid. With a cartoon in the background.

Excellent....

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the 1.1 .ks file for n900 is really out now :

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-c....8.20100630.ks

can anyone with a fedora 12 generate an dualboot image please ?

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but from this:
http://meego.com/developers/ui-desig...t/meego-basics

there is no "homescreen" just:

Lock Screen - Presented when user first wakes up the device.
Home - Access to open applications through the switcher. Favorite applications are presented, as well as access to launcher.
Launcher- Access to all applications available in the device


but on the other paper describing MeeGo for handsets (bananas and something)I saw some infor about "homescree"

... so what it the reality then ?

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http://meego.com/sites/all/files/use...rLongPress.png Two-finger long Press (Press, Wait, Release) Select text (non-editable text fields)

Liking the CUT COPY PASTE solution they came up with, was a little cumbersome on the N900

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I doubt this will work on the N900.

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Man, it would be a dream come true if we will find out that the N900's digitizer supports multitouch :)

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middle finger
its jus a xterminal -__-
gotta flash it back to pr1.2 -__-

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I think more than one people in this very thread said it's the old image.. :) The good news is, that the .ks file to make a new one is now up and there's people writing instructions on how to build the image.

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a) whats ks?
b) it gave me a list of options including ks and meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg
flashed meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg and it turns out to be a 178mb xterminal :|
whatever happened to dos?
it fits in a floppy disk :|

** edit
by it, i meant the download page

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A "kickstart" file, basically a script used by the MeeGo image builder to construct an image.

Correct, that's an -old- image from the end of March.

DOS was also only fractionally as capable as that terminal only image. The console only image includes all of X and Qt 4.6.

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I know it's hardly finished, but it's ugly as hell. Why does it have to look like an Android OS or Iphone OS clone? Maemo 5 was and is unique.. jeez.

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I really don't like the UI it looks iPhoneish. I wish they picked something else for phones.

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Well here's the awesome thing about the project:

It's open source, even more so than Maemo. So if you really, really don't like the UI then you can create your own.

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eldar is saying the nokia interface is much better what he's seen on the N9.
so even if people dont like reference UI chances are you will like one of the vendor specific ones just buy what suites you

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Well that's cool and all, but you do realize that not everyone has the skills and considering MeeGo is a mainstream OS, there shouldn't be a need to know how to do that stuff. I really don't understand what's so cool on the Android and IPhone UI that other developers and comapanies must copy it, it's lame, very lame and without any sense of originality. Until they come up with something nice (MeeGo tablet UI on a phone device), I'm not buying it.

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The other thing is, as wmarone said above, if those vendors release their UI's - or other third parties develop their own UI's like wmarone suggested... those should also be packageable and installable on any MeeGo device you would think. So, even if you don't like the one the vendor gives you it's likely easily replaceable.

(How the whole dual mode/security posture will work into that I don't know..)

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Aaaand I'm guessing that the N800/810/WE will NOT be privvy to any of this.

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Kinda underwhelming compared to what's already out there, and it looks way too phone-oriented for my taste. Note also how they just retconned "MeeGo Handheld" into "MeeGo Handset" :-(

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I'm guessing that's more of a question for here.

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The GUI you see now is -not- the mainstream GUI. Nokia, whoever uses this on their devices will likely create their own. This is the reference GUI that the average person will never use.

If you buy a Nokia MeeGo, or LG MeeGo device, you won't see this interface. Maybe something similar, maybe not.

If you at all work with the community version, you'll probably use this initially or eventually someone will use a modified version. Who knows.

fatalsaint:
Sadly, I suspect that vendor-UIs (other than Nokia) will probably keep their homescreen UIs very proprietary.

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I'm pretty sure of that as well - but still, the main point in what I'm saying is that I am sure third-parties or open source people will make their own UI's, or modify the Reference UI here, and I would imagine that those would be installable on any MeeGo device if you don't like what you get "from the factory" so to speak.

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Hey, do you think there will be something like Easy Debian on MeeGo? Maybe Easy Fedora?

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Easy Debian is Debian and has nothing to do with Maemo at all. It's it's own Debian core that runs in a chroot with Qole's scripts to make it "integrated" with Maemo.

Easy Debian as Easy Debian should certainly be functional on MeeGo with some modifications to the scripts that qole uses.

If you want an Easy Fedora.. that's probably possible too using Fedora's ARM repositories.

But you don't need an "Easy Fedora" just because it's MeeGo and RPM based.. the Easy "XYZ" systems have nothing at all to do with their hosts.

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Because there are few finer "yo dawg"s than installing an OS inside of your OS :D

Only better one I can think of is calculus.

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Not gonna happen. So, let's say Nokia release a MeeGo device and you buy a LG phone, but don't like the UI, so you take the Nokia UI and put it in your LG phone? I don't think it is going to be fair for the vendor; because it's the precise the UI where they invest cash and want to be different. It may be possible (like the HTC Sense UI being ported to other Android devices); but I don't think it will be supported.

What should happen is that you could replace without major problems, the vendor UI for the generic UI we have just seen.

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Again, I feel it depends if the Vendor releases their UI to the public.

So if Nokia releases a MeeGo device with UI X, and LG releases a device with UI Y, but both Nokia and LG keep their UI's closed - then yes, not going to happen.

If Nokia releases MeeGo device with UI X, and releases UI X out to the open, then LG releases device UI Y... You should be able to replace UI Y with UI X. It's all MeeGo.

Supported or not is different.. will LG Support support you with a Nokia UI? Probably not as they won't know the UI to even help you. But it should be possible to load.

Now, replace LG and Nokia with Open Source developers/names (not companies, just random joe on the internet) - and the same thing should be possible. Say we end up with UI A B and C from the public for MeeGo then both devices from Nokia and LG should be able to load those 3 UI's as well should the user want.

But again.. the restrictions will come into how closed the devices themselves are; and how the security framework will work with MeeGo.

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Is it possible to boot the preview off of a MicroSD?

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For now that's the recommended way of doing it.. once someone gets an image created, that is.