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Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

As long as all the source code is available then people can start fixing stuff.

Just to be clear is the current release is the open version of the image minus the closed components (battery management and stuff)?

Nokia are releasing their version a little bit later?

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

I'm waiting for the October release which is v.1.1. That one for sure will be a stable release.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

I don't really care if it's not stable, I would just like to see the demo running on my n900 (in dual boot as It is my primary device)

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by mangal_sk8erboy (Post 736742)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
NICE ONE!!!!
i think pre alpha is like sort of a beta release..
i THINK!
beta is when its not an official non buggy version yet, its a buggy version which is sent out to the public so that THEY can find out the bugs and return to the supplier with the feedback.

Alpha == We reached planned feature set and we have loads of bugs in
Beta == We think we crushed all critical and major bugs and this is what it is going to look and work like
Release Candidate == We think we crushed all known bugs and if you won't find any, this is what you'll get

So, pre-Alpha == We aren't there yet but we got a few parts working, you may toy with it

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by johnel (Post 736757)

No, many closed components are available now actually. Like SGX driver or WiFi driver. In booting, it says something about BME too. Altough it doesn't show anything on the status bar, I think it is charging when connecting the charger(Phone gets warmer).

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

The Meego UI looks like it was designed by a child.
If this is what is to be expected in the final release, i'll stick with maemo

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by sirfoxelot (Post 736873)

The Meego UI looks like it was designed by a child.
If this is what is to be expected in the final release, i'll stick with maemo

i second that.
too used 2 maemo.
i hope they continue with maemo 6 7 etc!

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by sirfoxelot (Post 736873)

The Meego UI looks like it was designed by a child.
If this is what is to be expected in the final release, i'll stick with maemo

While I agree with you on that entirely, I don't think it's targeted at your typical geek end user. I think it'd probably go down reasonably okay with the masses, but even then I'd imagine most people would very quickly dump it as soon as they become aware that it can be changed.

I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I do know this looks clunky and seems to waste a lot of visual space - the wallpaper they used was a bad choice - first impressions count, and mine was essentially "yuck"

That said, no doubt it can be themed - probably Nokia and others will release their own user interface to sit on top of the OS.

In short, I don't like it, I'll stick with Maemo.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by dchky (Post 736882)

While I agree with you on that entirely, I don't think it's targeted at your typical geek end user. I think it'd probably go down reasonably okay with the masses, but even then I'd imagine most people would very quickly dump it as soon as they become aware that it can be changed.

I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I do know this looks clunky and seems to waste a lot of visual space.

That said, no doubt it can be themed - probably Nokia and others will release their own user interface to sit on top of the OS.

In short, I don't like it, I'll stick with Maemo.

can we expect a maemo 6 to finally save the day?

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by mangal_sk8erboy (Post 736884)

can we expect a maemo 6 to finally save the day?

Maemo 6 is Harmattan.

At the time of the Maemo-Moblin merger, Nokia announced that the "Maemo 6" name had been dropped, and that, that release (codenamed "Harmattan") would be "an instance of MeeGo". It would be MeeGo compatible, though not use RPM, etc.

More recently, Nokia has shown they understand that using the "MeeGo" name for Harmattan, a product that's not quite MeeGo, causes confusion. Quim has begun referring to Harmattan as Harmattan-MeeGo instead for clarity, though he is quick to point out that won't be the final method of distinguishing the peculiarities of the upcoming OS.

In any case, no, Nokia isn't continuing to develop Maemo alongside MeeGo. MeeGo-Harmattan is a transition step, and following releases will be MeeGo, period. Also, since even before Maemo 5 was released, Nokia has been describing the "iconic" UI of Harmattan as strikingly different from that of Maemo 5. Had MeeGo not happened, you'd still be watching Nokia move away from the Maemo 5 UI right now.

Message explaining the unavailability in the mailing list

Even if some people managed to build their own images here and were able to boot Meego, I feel it's useful to inform everyone why there is currently no N900 image and the current state of Meego on the N900. I got this email 3 hours ago from the meego-dev@meego.com mailing list:

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Subject: [MeeGo-dev] About building Handset UX Day1 image for N900; some notes and explanations
From: harri.hakulinen@nokia.com
to: MeeGo-dev
sender-time: Sent at 4:16 AM (GMT+02:00).
mailing list: meego-dev.meego.com

Hello Meegos,

As you know, yesterday Handset UX developement was opened in MeeGo. As N900 is the other hanset reference device in MeeGo, we are of course actively developing all the required adaptation elements to make it possible to run MeeGo Handset UX on N900.

From N900 adaptation point of view, we have had some quite nasty last minute stabilty broblems related to our Day1 builds. It looks like Wlan and connman are not working nicely together now, and we don't know yet what exactly is the problem. We have recently started to use .35rc3 kernel, but that does not seem to be the issue, it's rather something related to wlan or Connman configuration, or something above connman that we are not fully aware of.

Now, when all the related source's are available, perhaps we can solve those issues as MeeGo community !

This really is Day 1 "codedrop" for Hanset UX rather than release, we also have bunch of other known issues and errors, like

- Wlan does not work on every boot
* sometimes you need to boot again..

- Sreen rotation does not work
* our accelerometer sensor is not working right at the moment

- On some applications closing button is hardly visible

- You can use home button once per application to go to task swicther, and come back, but not more than that
* this is known bug in framework

- There is no phone functionality
* Our new opensource drivers for modem module are not stable enough yet.

And in addition we still have some issues know already earlier, like

- Battery loading does not work
* BME, (nokia closed) component still don't work properly..

Because of all this and some misc problems, we decided that there is no point of creating ready-made image for N900. However, there is everything available to build your own image if you are really interested to try it now. Many things are now moving all the time, and what you get with these instructions is in fact the daily image containing the latest state of MeeGo Handset UX development for N900.

After all, this is "code drop" related to MeeGo development, and it is actually interesting first exercise to setup your build environment and start your MeeGo development by creating your first image yoursefl !

The kickstart file to enable the image creation is available at

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

Before you can download it, you need to enter valid IMEI code of your N900 device. That is required because of our current licensensing situation for some closed components that are required to build functional Handset UX Day 1 image. We are working on this issue and I hope we can get rid of this extra step in very near future.

Some instructions are available at

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Releases/Daily
Theu are still under development and may contain some errors, please bear with un on this one as well.

So, now you should have practically everything available, so lets make MeeGo 1.1 happen together !

Br,
//Harri"

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

Important to note: even if you don't like the UI, it's completely open, replaceable.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by sevla (Post 736551)

This is linux only correct?

im not sure, but the the first link i was off, but not the second

but i think it fedora only because i try to install tools but... RPM

i dont know:confused:

Re: Message explaining the unavailability in the mailing list

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Originally Posted by Patola (Post 736926)

From his reply, I see that the current version of MeeGo and Android N900 port has lots of similarities in terms of what working and what not.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

is there any possibility that ported meego on n900 when its released will have portrait mode on n900"?

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

As far as I understand everything, it seems that we will have a completely working Meego.
I understand it mainly from the fact that according to Patola 's mail the IMEI we have to input in order to get the latest meego build is due to the closed components licensing.
From this I understand that those closed components are made available to the meego devs hence they have access to the cellular modem,3G ect, resulting in a fulctional meego release for the n900(minus multi-touch :))

If one of those with more knowledge can approve of this i'll be happy. t might end all the speculation around if "this" or "that" will work.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 736928)

Important to note: even if you don't like the UI, it's completely open, replaceable.

It doesn't matter that it can be replaced, it should at the very least be desirable as is, right out of the box. Even if that look and feel is simply utilitarian, it is better than trying to make some kind of cute statement, one that is simply lost on me. I know it's largely just a wallpaper, however, the videos floating around show a great deal of wasted space between elements.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

guys can u guys help me this, i follow the step to step 7 which is

7)Mount the SD card, replace /dev/sdc1 with your device and first partition.
Code:

mkdir mount
sudo mount /dev/sdc1 mount

and my sd name is /dev/sdb2
so how do i do it ?
mkdir mount
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 mount
but it then return command is it is busy or not found in fmap or something

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

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Originally Posted by ryanl33x1511 (Post 739608)

Your SD name would actually be /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb2. The number at the end refers to a partition number on the card - you don't write MeeGo to the partition but rather write it to the root car itself so that it can create 2 of it's own partitions.

Your dd command would have of=/dev/sdb in it and then you would mount /dev/sdb1 when that is finished.

Re: has anyone managed to install successfully the meego pre alpha release for the n900?

If you just want to run MeeGo handset to see how it looks like, and don't necessarily need it on your N900, and have a netbook or other MeeGo-compatible computer at hand, you can get a netbook build of the handset UX from here:

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1...2-netbook-mtf/