Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

could this be related?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43197

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Lets compare, I have 490 conversations with 2600 messages and some of them could include non-english characters !!

Cheers

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

crash!
send a vcard as sms to myself,
and now everytime I search in
conversation the app crashs.
yeah!
nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

man that was fast. awesome work

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I don't do this every day... but congratulations that you're able to crash your own software! :D

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I think I have found and fixed the bug.
The new version is uploaded to the extras-devel autobuilder.
The armel build succeed but the i386 build failed.
I don't know why.

nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Until the problem with i386 build is fixed you can
try out this version.

regards
Nicolai

edit: current version (0.0.6) is in extras-devel
as well.

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Its working now. Searching in contact/message/calendar perfect not crash anymore.

It possible to make auto rotation ?

TQ

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Perfect it doesn`t crash - but - now I can see only contacts.. calender and conversations I can`t see ! why this ??

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Check your settings, it might be that only contacts is selected.

Works very well now. Thanks

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Well, the UI is very simple I think it should be possible
to add autoration support.

regards
Nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Sorry that I permanently ignore this request. But no,
I don't think this app is the right place to add an
application search.
But I can make a desktop widget for that. Ok?

regards
Nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

App launcher with search - be it a desktop widget or status bar applet - will be really useful and appreciated by many users.

Thank you,

Leonid

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

No everything is selected !! I`ve checked already..

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

This is strange!
Can you deselect everything except conversations and
search with a query which is definitly in your text messages,
like "e" for example.

regards
Nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I understand that maybe flash 64GB (the max capacity for the N900) might not neccesary a index...

...but this I do not understand. You might want to start having this (a application for the purposes stated) and a desktop widget for applications but you at one point should combine them and at the end have a application that runs in the background that allows you instant search for whatever you want on demand (such like I stated Spotlight (OSX and iOS 4) and Windows Search (WIndows Vista and 7).

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

?
Developing two applications for some more special searches is
easier and less time consuming than one general purpose
search. Designing and developing something flexible and
extensible (plugable modules for new datasources, filetypes,
applications ...) like spotlight for example would be a great
project but far away from the time I can afford.

Of course, I could add the application search in scout.
But scout is meant to be an application for contact and
conversation related searches. Example usecase:
You can only remember a part from a phone number
and you don't know if this number is in your contacts or
someone sent you the number in message.
Would you expect something valueable from the
results from the application search?

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I disabled all settings and enabled all of them again .. then I search with just "e" and all contacts with an e are the result.. nothing of calender and conversations !!:(

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

And what happens if you enable only the conversation
search or only the calendar search?

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Some typical 'standard user' use-case feedback.

Searching for a Calendar event now works perfectly.

I can search and find any text embedded in any 'Calendar' entry.
Although it takes exactly 4 min to search my 12 years of calender entries, quite OK, but slower than the old Palm device.

Selecting the calender entry, will display a 'screen capture' of the contents, (ie cannot be scrolled).
Touching the 'Calendar' tab in this 'screen capture' will take you directly to the calendar event.
From there you can edit or scroll the contents. OK.


The search will also find any text embedded in a 'note' entry.
Selecting the note entry, will display a 'screen capture' of the contents, (ie cannot be scrolled).
Touching the 'Calendar' tab in this 'notes screen capture' will take you to a random calendar event,
but I wanted it to point to the searched 'note' item, not a calendar item.
So I then try & select the status bar on top, then select 'go to notes', but this does not take me to the searched note item.


Sometimes I just want to search my notes (not all the calendar), but there is no option to do so in 'settings'.

Some constructive feedback, and further difficult challenges should you wish make continuous improvements.

There is allot of focus for this forum, so you must be onto something great.
Cheers,
Jackchat @ Australia.

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Hi Nicolai

I still have the same crash problem, only change being it shows the first few results of the search, waits for couple of seconds and then crashes.

Can you make post debug version for this 0.5 version

Cheers

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Thank you for this detailed review.

I hope the 'standard user' has not used calendar entries
from 12 years. Otherwise I have to think of some indexing
scheme.
Yes the calendar entry view needs some more work. But you
can tap on the textfield and use the arrow keys to move the
cursor and the textfield will scroll.
Yes this is bad, but I can only open the calendar app with one
of three different views:
Month view,
Week view,
Agenda view.
It is not possible to jump directly to the notes list or to
the notes view. :-(

That should be easy. Expect it in the next version.
I am grateful for suggestions and critics.
Nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

nothing as well , sorry for this critic ?! :o

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Great work!

I am hoping we might see a widget front-end for this at some point. What do you say?

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Boah! From 12 Years? I guess this is not normal... :D

But you can ask me. As a common standard N900 user I had a look at my calendar and my oldest entry (expect the birthdays) is from 1999. :rolleyes: But I have to wait under 1 Minute for the results. So I guess this extreme case with 12 years of meeting history has a little bit more entrys than I. ;)

But in my opinion 12 years is not as long as it seems. I won't delete anything, too.

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Hmm... I have 10 user defined Calendars, 2 of them are Smart Calendars. I use this as categories (private, work, appointments, Reminders, Birthdays, vataction planer, eCoach...).

What about searching only in specific Calendars?

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

At last search functionality that comes close to that of the palm. Thank you very much!! Did I miss this.

Tried the version that still crashed on conservations. That one took approximately 20 mb of my root memory.

I'll install the optified Scout version when it enters the extra testing repository, but can hardly wait.

ps I have my agenda going back to 1999 too and approximately 1000 contacts. Indexing might become a real option.

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Does the latest version (0.0.6) still crash?
Btw, 20 mb of root memory? The package has
only ~ 40 kb size.

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

It shouldnt (if programmed correctly) return anything related because I doubt any application will have a name, description, etc with a phone number. It would just return SMSs with the number or/and contacts (in this case)

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

No problem with root memory and Scout. :)

I guess it is because of the activation of EXTRA DEVEL at your device. (a lot of things are stored locally while updating the catalog - because of this it is so slow)
Simply deactivate EXTRA Devel and reboot your N900. Your lost memory will be there as before. :)

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Hi PipoXtreme,

any chance you have sysklogd installed?
And if so, there may be some debug messages
in /var/log/syslog.
Otherwise I would like to give you a version which prints
some debug messages on the console, so I can
trace back what could be the problem.

regards
nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

To check your idea I reinstalled Scout. Extra dev did effectively not eat a lot of root. Scout itself did neither, but the Scout queries do eat up a lot of memory that will only be freed after a reboot....Just closing the app was not sufficient. What to do about this?

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I couldn't reproduce this. The queries can took a lot of
memory. But RAM not rootfs. And this memory should
be freed after the app closed.

nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

sysklogd ?! :confused:

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

i did three queries: my name, my girlfriend's name and the most common Dutch name Jan. Just to create an overkill in results.

Rootfs free mem dropped by 10 mb, usage of ram increased during query but dropped afterwoods just like you said. Available rootfs mem remains at 62 mb while before the queries this was almost 73 mb. after quiting scout Ram usage drops approx 20 mb, rootfs usage remains the same unfortunately.

Can't help it sorry...

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

What I did:
Reboot device, wait some minutes,
rootfs 66% free.
Start scout, make some searches with many results.
rootfs 66% free.

The other thing is free RAM. It is difficult to use this value if you
want to measure how much memory a program need.
There are many background processes. And it can happen
that the program triggers the OS to swap unused memory.
So you can have even more free RAM while using scout.

In the last 20 minutes the free RAM value changed between
8 and 32 mb (without starting any application).

nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

I can make a version of scout which prints some debug
info maybe then we find out what the problem is.

nicolai

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

Additional testing resulted still in significant drop of rootfs memory. However after a longer period (got a coffee) the rootfs is freed up again. So it seems to use a lot of rootfs but releases it as well after some time.

Other question: Is it possible to create combined queries like: all appointments with Lars in 2010?

In general: where are the votes guys? Scout needs them!

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

You don't need - friday evening I reflashed my N900 now all is perfect ! :cool:

Re: [Announce] scout - search contacts, conversations and calendars
 

New version with new settings will be released after
the competition is over.
Please vote for this app if you like it.
If you don't like it, vote for an other app,
but VOTE :-)
(Give the developers feedback!)

nicolai