Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

OK, I'm back now and I tried to restore the backups using BackupMenu.

With a fresh flash of the RootFS followed by the reinstallation of BackupMenu from the repositories, the two backup files were found in the restore menu. I first tried to restore only the OptFS. It was successful according to BackupMenu, but when rebooting the N900, I saw absolutely no change (same applications as before, that is to say almost none). So I tried to restore both RootFS and OptFS using the adequate option in your application. I don't know if it was successful or not, I was not watching the screen during the process and when I came back to check, the N900 was shut off. Now, I cannot boot it, it just displays the white Nokia screen and then switches off. The same thing happens when booting with the keyboard slided out, so no way to come back to BackupMenu. The battery was full.

What really annoys me is that I can't flash again using Maemo Flasher. I flashed my N900 many times and this is the first time I can't do it. Here is the error I get:

The previous step all work until 100%, but I can't copy text from my command prompt so I juste wrote here the error lines.

Is it bricked? :/

[Edit] OK, I fixed the flashing issue by flashing without the -R option. It worked and now I can flash flawlessly again, with or without -R. But this doesn't really say us why restoring OptFS did not actually restore anything and why restoring RootFS and OptFS screwed up my N900. I'm going to reinstall apps manually and create new backup files just in case, but I'm really interested in your app so I would like to understand why it was not working in my case (and only in my case, obviously). Maybe the backups are corrupted but it would be surprising as BackupMenu said "Success" for the OptFS restoration; and I see no reason why they would be corrupted.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Well, two things: One, remember what files are on the OptFS - Only supporting files. Those files probably did get copied, but until you copy the rootfs, you can't access any applications, as the application excecutables(or, if they are stored on thw OptFS, any links to those files) aren't on the RootFS.

In Windows terminology, its like copying your old programs to the program files directory, then wondering why those programs aren't showing up in the start menu.

Edit:
Also, I've gotten that "can't flash" message - Flashing to PR1.2, and then immediately flashing the rootfs with the flasher tool seems to fix that - IF your RootFS backup is not corrupt.

I am thinking though that bad blocks have some part in this whole thing - thats why some of us can backup and restore successfully, yet others do the exact same steps and it not work quite.

If you can't flash, hold on for a while, see if you can't get that ubifs mount code working, and I'm gonna try to figure out a different way of backing up and restoring that is more tollerant of bad blocks.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

RobbieThe1st, hello!
Just want to know, if can i use ur backup menu with Nitdroid and Maemo installed?

Now i'm using ur latest version and can't get any points in menu.

Maemo + MeeGo + NitDroid and ur backupmenu = all i need =)

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

hej robbie first thanks for your great work:)
but ive got a question.
if my phone is messed up and i have to reflash it.how i should to it?
i explain you how i understand it say if something is wrong.
i have to run the maemo flasher but can i use my image or the original one?
and after that i have to install your app and restore optfs is that right?
and after that everything should be alright?
one question left.
if i want to go into flashing mod with my n900 can i press and hold u like always??
thanks

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

1) If you have any problem .. you have to flash with the fiasco image before (the originale one) and with your root after,

Before everything .. put your OPT image in MyDocs. Shut down the phone.

Press U while you connect the usb port (yes, in every type of flash, even the one of the root created by backupmenu, you HAVE TO activate the flash mode pressing U).
Then give the command :

flasher-3.5.exe -F nameofFIASCOimage.bin -f

At the end of the process ... give this other command:

flasher-3.5.exe -r nomeOFyourROOTimage -f

The first one erase everything... the second one put the old root image in the phone.

Than unplug the cable and make the first boot with the opened keyboard.
Backupmenu should run.. and from here you should select the option to restore ONLY OPT . :)

At the end of this everything should be all right :)

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

thank you very much i was a little bit confused but now im know it:)

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Having borked my rootfs while trying to fsck the /home partition, I tried to reflash from inside backupmenu, but the device didn't start.
So I reflashed from a desktop machine, first the pr1.2 image, then the rootfs, but this time when restoring a message says that all telephony functions are disabled.
The flasher output isMaybe the problem is in the last line, possible? It doesn't flash the CMT.

Thing is I don't know if restart with a fresh firmware altogether or there is a way to restore my latest rootfs image correctly. Please help...

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

And now I can't reflash the original rootfs either.Seems my N900 is dead.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

maybe try to remove battery for some times ...
and start again

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

nope, I tried also that. I also tried to flash the rootfs only:
flasher-3.5 -r rootfs.jffs2 -f
but the same error is logged.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

So I'm not the only one
Try again, keep trying, eventually it will work, same happened to me.
You could also wipe the flash clean then try to flash it again with flasher, if you have serial access/ssh access at bootup then:
Note that this command will write random zeros to /dev/mtd5, so all data on the rootfs will be destroyed!

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

I get trying and trying but it always halts there... sigh...

EDIT ALLELUJAH it flashes!

Here's the serendipity: I issued the flashing command then connected the n900 with the u key pressed. It gave error. Tens of times.
The last time, when I had lost all my hope, I re-issued the flashing command without previously disconnecting and reconnecting the phone. And the magic worked :)

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Good debernardis :)
By the way ... after restoring with success all the system ,, i have some problems T_T
In "info" the version of the system doesn't appear ..
And i got some problems with the titan kernel.

The original system had titan kernel installed... i made a total backup with the program..
Then i flashed with the fiasco image (so even the kernel)... and then my personal root + opt.
The whole process was all right.

I boot thew system.. and clearly in the package manager the titan kernel appears to be installed (obviously)

Trying to remove the kerne it gives me some errore messages... so now i can't reinstall titan -.-''''
The only way should be throght the flasher...

But i don't know the mirror of the titan... unfortnately the packege in the extras makes everything automatically...

Anyone know where i can find it?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

you got a shortcut in the program list to uninstall the kernel for OC named :
" Deinstall Kernel- "

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

This should be too simple ;)
It gives me an error even with that because there isn't the kernel installed

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

mmm maybe using apt-get remove --purge

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

This reinstall the nokia kernel :)
But i already have the nokia kernel , even if the phone thinks to have the titan beacuse there still is the package in the root.
The problem is the packeage... i have to try to purge like clovis said :)

Noone know where to download the titan .. i'd like to flash it with the flasher after flashing my custom root ..

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

try this link :

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...ower-settings/

but should be the same as by app manager :( so almost sure it 'll not work
gotta find the deb file for the kernel and the settings
lookin' for it :D

EDIT :

http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#H...kernel_version

Verification of proper installation

First verify, that the kernel is actually running:

uname -r

should return "2.6.28.10power-omap1" or "2.6.28.10power<version>" If it does not, you should reboot or try to install again

apt-get install --reinstall -y kernel-power kernel-power-flasher

reboot, and test again.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

That are only the settings T_T
For the kernel it isn't a deb T_T
Or a bin or an img ... :(

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

What the F.Uck !
Is that possible that NOONE know where the il located the kernel ???

Someone say me that the kernel is in the rootfs (/proc/sys/kernel) and restoring the backup everything should go ..

But the problem is that after restoring the root after the flash with the fiasco image... the OC doensn't wotk ! ! !
I've even sent a PM to the BIG TITAN ... but no reply ...

Maybe could it be a problem of mounting?
Maybe the proc directory needs to be mounted like a subdirectory of the root? ? ?
Or maybe i'm saying a lot of bullsh.it... T_T

PS: sorry for the outburst

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

if it's only a kernel issue you just have to reinstall the 2 apps and reboot
nothing soooo hard nop ?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Yes but i'm trying to create a complete image of the system to share with my small community .. and everything should run out of box.. :/
Moreover it is a matter of principle ... i want to understand where is allocated the kernel so that Robbie can even solve this sort of "bug" .

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

@Dany69: would you mind rephrasing your problem more precisely so that it's easier to help you?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

OK, let me answer a few things:
1. Like a couple of you figured out, trying to flash PR1.1 doesn't work. At all. If you are having trouble, you have to flash PR1.2(which seems to reset the kernel to the default), THEN immediately flash your RootFS image. Once you do that, you open the keyboard, unplug the USB cable, and boot into BackupMenu, from which you restore the OptFS.

2. To reinstall titan's kernel, you simply have to gain root, then do "apt-get install --reinstall kernel-power kernel-power-flasher", like others figured out.

3. As Dana was talking about, I thought for most of this topic that the Kernel was installed in the RootFS. Now, I'm not so sure, because when you flash PR1.2, then your RootFS image, you are back to the default kernel. This is because either A, the kernel is stored somewhere else, or B, the boot link to the kernel is stored elsewhere(whatever tells it which kernel to use). If you know which it is, let me know.

-Rob

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Indeed, I seem to remind by yesterday's ominous reflashings, that the flasher pc utility can flash either a complete fiasco image including all, or the rootfs only, or the kernel only, or other tids and bits only. So the kernel isn't included into the rootfs, positively!
See man flasher-3.5 on a gnu-linux machine.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Though, just because it can flash the kernel separately doesn't mean it has to be stored elsewhere - its just dealing with files after all.

And, if its stored elsewhere, -where- would it be stored?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Debernardis , Robbie has just focused my problem :)
I am a curious type of nature... and this fact that i don't know where the kernel is driving me crazy XD ..

By the way ... i've succeded to find the flashable version of the kernel to have everything usable out of box without any other 3.proceeding :P
I've looked for it browsing the kernel through PC ...

Here all the versions...

http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d.../kernel-power/

But i noticed that this were only some debian packages that cannot be flashed...
So 7 zip helped me :)
And here the new kernel 40 :

http://www.mediafire.com/?ednad0xmatezc8y

This should be flashed after the flash with fiasco with the command:

flasher-3.5.exe -k zImage-2.6.28-maemo40.fiasco -f

Now i try :)

EDIT: mmm ... it doesn't work ... after flashing even the kernel ... the phone doesn't boot... only white nokia screen .. T_T ... even not restoring the image made with the programm ...

What the hell ...

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Did you try the "safe restore method"?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

FIASCO images are more than a simple rootfs image with a .fiasco file extension, you can generate fiasco images which contain custom rootfs images, custom kernels, custom everything using fiasco-gen, you'll need scratchbox for that.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

MohammadAG but i don't think we need to create a whole new fiasco customized fiasco image .. :/ the kernel and the root should be enought ..

But i don't know why, flashing the kerne with the zImage through the maemo-flasher, it doesn't work and the phone neither boot. And yet he package is taken by the repository ..

On the contrary, installing the package "Enhanced Linux kernel for power users" from the repo, no problem ...
Maybe the "automatic flasher" of the package makes something different?
Am i doing something wrong with the maemo flasher? maybe a wrong command :(

@Robbie
What is the safe restore mode? o.O

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

you need to extract and flash the original zImage from
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...mo40_armel.deb

not the .fiasco kernel image.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

So it was the bootimage O.o XD
Greaaat :) Now i try :) Tnx a lot bro :P

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

this script is awesome work!

USB Network working? If yes, how?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

I like this BackupSolution the most. Awsome!

Well, today I've installed NITDroid and your app was wiped out...
You see any way how to add 'BackupMenu' to multiboot?

I have not much knowledge of code and linux.
Could you provide the steps to integrate Backupmenu with multiboot ?

thx for your help.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

NightShift, I don't know how.
You can -try- going into Console mode of multiboot, then typing "/etc/bootmenu.d/BackupMenu.item" and see if it runs.
If so, great. If not... let me know what error you get.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

hmm... there's no console mode in multiboot... At least I don't know how to access it.

What I tried now was to copy /etc/bootmenu.d/BackupMenu.item to /etc/multiboot.d/BackupMenu.item.

When I now reboot my N900 with keyboard open, Multiboot shows up with a new option. but this option has no title and also doesn't do anything when executed....

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

I have not used bootmenu but from looking at the backupmenu.item, Multiboot items seem to be completely different.

S will bring up a shell that you may be able to run backupmenu.item as described in the first post but as I do not use it I cannot tell you for sure.

I have a bit of knowledge of multiboot and am pretty sure there is no way to tell it to start a shell and run backupmenu.item. The following are what can be configured with a Multiboot item:

• Which kernel to load,
• Which file system is used
• What modules needed
• Where the rootfs is
• FS options
• programme to excecute when switching over to root (searches usual locations by default
• Where to put the default rootfs

I cannot see where you could tell it to excecute a script so if the first method doesn't work, you will not be able to use backupmenu with multiboot.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

That's disappointing news if indeed true. Thank you for the explanation.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

indeed somehow sad news...
It would be so great if Backupmenu+NITDroid+multiboot could be installed together....

I really hope some of the skilled Gurus could fiddle out a coexistence.