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We have ignore lists.

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Mainstream today doesn't mean the best for tomorrow. It just means someone has thought far enough out of the box to lead.

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Looks like it says S60 5th Edition.

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It's definitely something I was expected from MeeGoo. The current version is like polished Symbian but how the GUI looks like is not so important as how its behave or how flexible it is for developers/designers.

Design as we know can be always improved changed by theme designers. I am fairly sure somebody here can do something similar with Theme on N900 very similar to that. IF flexibility of GUI let them unify certain elements of it. Because the biggest concern about maemo5 is there is lack of consistency if you look at of some of your widgets on the screen everything looks like telling you different story.

In this case base on what I saw is just eye candy marketing bulshit and I am not getting it till i'll see how its functioning. Why this guy doing long pauses... intentionally? Waiting for processor to calm down to hide choppy behaviour?

Seeing is believing somebody said... NO THESE DAYS.

I have seen flash 10.1 on N900 months ago and what?...

Touching is a new seeing these days ;)

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This looks like symbian^4. search youtube and it looks more like the official demos than meego.

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No, its Nokia's demo version of Meego for sure (i.e. its not S^4 if that's what you meant); confirmed by people I know know. :)

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I sure hope they keep the internet radio, I have grown to love the capability to bookmark some far away radio stations

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mainstream definition:
a prevailing current or direction of activity or influence. the normal, standard, well known.

Symbian = 45%
Android = 19%
Android w/Sense = >19%
Android w/Timescape and Mediascape = >19%
iOS = 14%


By this definition, Symbian is mainstream. But you may subscribe to Apple's definition, since they're the biggest company in mobile now. LOL! Ignore the buzz and start using facts to make your point next time.

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Not trying to talk for him; however I think the comparison of Maemo 5 vs. Apple iOS and Android would prove his point right about what's mainstream since we're at a Maemo forum and Apple iOS and Android were mentioned.

As was Symbian and that's a bad usage in that regard.

OT: Chris... did you ever get your N900 fixed? I saw you were in a pickle for a while there. Just wondering.

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It seems like generic text copied from an existing Ovi Store app.
just checked Ovi store and Quickoffice's website and the latest version is 2.5. I don't think the existing version will be supported by this upcoming device.

http://store.ovi.com/content/2579?clickSource=search

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Yes, I'm sure it is there just for demonstration purposes and has no implications what so ever with the final Ovi store program selection for Meego.

Also, as it has already come up, the video is just a pc-simulated view part of the user experience testing. In the testing situation there is a pc that simulates the user interface and test-user all are given tasks that they have to complete. Everything is recorded (user inputs, user commentary audio etc.) and analysed afterwards.

So that is most propably almost final layout of the Nokia mobile Meego UX, but there might be some slight adjustments according to the testing.

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I always love it when someone pulls out these market share figures as an argument. Yeah. Cause it is that head in the sand thinking that prevents inovation in Nokia. Stop looking at the sales and look at brand value and usability/inovation and let's see what is what. A leader cannot be measured or defined as 'the one with more sales'.

A good example: the music industry. For me, most of the artists with more sales are crap... ;)

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What's this near flamewar we have going on here all of the sudden? And its on an offtopic discussion! :)

Let's get back to the topic: has anyone got any contacts that might give us the parts 1 and 2 of this slideshow/video?

EDIT: Here's a refresher of the memory, by the way:

http://mobileroar.com/wp-content/upl.../05/maemo1.jpg

The UI video actually looks somewhat consistent with this image, don't you think?

Now I wonder what happened to the Calendar-Location-Contacts integration that this "screenie" shows?

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How much of that 45% is relevant? (As in, it's installed and configured as something that's classified as a 'smartphone')

Where is Blackberry?

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Looks great! (again)
If Nokia just "make it happens" at least one thing to our N900,
maybe I would fly away...

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hopefully thats just user preferance!

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Sure hope you don't have to use it in portrait mode!

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I would say that this calendar-image is from tablet version, I can't see that small mobile screen would be able to accomodate that much information simultaniously.

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You might like unsuccessful artists - but just because you like them does not make them leaders or have brand value or more innovation

Nokia R&D budget is enormous and they have massess of patents (you know like innovation) - like the one they are suing apple over about aerials - hence the iphone 4 clusterf

What nokia haven't done is levereaged their products using anti-competitve practices (tieing them to providers etc) in order to maximise profits - which might not be great for shareholders, but who gives a monkeys about fatcats anyways - it is good for customers

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I remember that when this image leaked to the net, they said this was a pannable landscape desktop capture from Harmattan.

I am looking forward to this kind of integration since the image was released a year ago, so I hope it has not been put off... :-)

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from what i see, the meego integrates into facebook very well. that's just the very killer app for conquering indonesian market. blackberries sells very well here because they get instant notification and the mail links directly to the facebook app, which is so nice. i dont know the statistics but i bet indonesian market is 5-big for nokia (shame for us who get along the day with facebook and do less work)

anyway, why unlike apple, nokia is sort of like a transparant company where everyone can see what it's doing? that's no good in business sense where competitors can copy the ideas.

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Like those failures, Red Hat, Canonical and CollabNet. Stupid transparent companies. Will they never learn?

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'stupid' best describes it. hahah

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me likey...

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It's just always been Nokia's policy to be open about a lot of things.

But this here is a genuine leak, not Nokia letting everyone know what's been cookin'. Nokia is a gigantic company when comparing to, say Apple, so controlling a leak is a lot more difficult.

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Today's software market let it be mobile or PC, all UI's are copying and mimicking each other. The main thing is if Nokia can make its UI (I hate to use this word) intuitive.

From observing Android, WebOS and iOS the differences between these UI's are subtle, and non of the fore mentioned OS's are perfect, far from it. If Nokia can get an even balance of attractiveness and usability with Meego, and capitalize by getting right what its competitors have got wrong, it might be in for a chance to dominate again the smartphone market.

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are you trying to distract discussion for some intentional reason?

those all have very different business model compared to nokia. or are they making cellphones nowadays?

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too many maybes and what-ifs

but I want nokia to prove me wrong! please

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I sure hope they release a Meego that has hardware specs that are comparable to competitors even after some time. No way Meego is going to catch others right from the start even if the phone and UI would be superior. Meego is missing the application and service portfolio that others already have, and it's going to take some time to get the community (yeah, the commercial one) behind Meego. On the other hand I'm kind of worried about the open source community, since Ovi Store might attract many developers that are currently doing their stuff open source.

If you do a proper device, you can sell it for a long time. Look what Apple does. Not even sure, whether it's proper device though.

And please market it properly. Show that you can do the stuff properly just using the device. You can download music, podcasts etc. Show for the travellers that you have offline maps with no need for roaming. There are special things, but they sure try keep the information hidden from the crowds.

Completely off-topic.

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I would beg to differ. When I opened the picture in portrait mode it fitted quite well to the screen. Seemed very usable IMHO.

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Wow 11 pages so fast, skimmed the first few. But has anyone else noticed how big the screen looks? (Or how relatively large it is compared to the buttons?) Looks like N800 sized.

I'll definitely come crawling back for more from Nokia if this is what we get!

Also as an aside, any chance Maemo reps will be compatable with MeeGo out of the box? (Assuming the libs are all ported?)

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boy, just get a screen dot pitch like n900 or iphone 4 then the image would scaled down to 3inch or less. it should be compatible because apps are either in qt or gtk, cmiiw

don't want to drive this thread off topic but i must argue that nokia should be more secretive about upcoming devices and ux. first it will drive copying from competitors (not the ux, but the idea). and second it will repell off those potential buyer thinking that they'll wait because if they buy now their device will obsolete before even a year

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After what I've seen, this UI is derivative of many bits and pieces that clearly have Nokia DNA. They've not tipped their hand at all, imho.

In fact, all they've accomplished was a show that they are working on something that might be worth the wait. From Bada to iOS to Android Gingerbread... those UI's are pretty much set in stone in so many different ways that Maemo/MeeGo wouldn't use.

And besides, the Moblin, now MeeGo for tablets has been out in plain view for ages.

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each 'leaked' preview of meego makes me less likely to buy into it, why nokia couldnt just get maemo5 right before moving on to meego totally baffles me!

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From what I can see Nokia are re-writing the whole UI, and probably most of the underlying s/w again and probably most of it from scratch as well.

As a s/w developer this is really not a good sign - Maemo5 was really good, it just needed some polishing and a nicer slimmer/package.

I'm afraid that after 6 months once we have a Nokia meego device it will fail to deliver, and Nokia will then jump onto another platform without thinking, CEO will step down and the whole cycle will start again.

They should stick to meego and make it very very good, thats the only way they will actually make a comeback.

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Out of curiosity, why would you say it's not a good thing?

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For any other project you'd be right, but Nokia has a really good reason for switching to Qt. The rewrite shouldn't make us doubt their competence.

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Yeah but QT was part of the PR1.2 update and the existing UI is more than adequate.

There is no reason to rewrite a new UI in QT unless you want to use the "cool" new library.

You could still rewrite the UI( in QT) in maemo without throwing everything else out and starting again.

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Not to be too off topic here, but I was a bit hoping for something like the touchscreen tablet UI. Not that the one from the video was bad, but the tablet one kinda knocked my socks off. The handset one just makes me wanna smoke a doobie and build a lego death star.

Any word on that Meego tablet release date?

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I totally agree with you here. Seeing is believing.... All these is just eye candy. Reminded me of the Sony Xperia X1. Man was i sold on that interface only to find out it was Windows 5.1 (can't recall the version anymore) interface. Guess what that phone is doing now.... Any way this video clip reminded me of the sony xperia adds any NO i am not falling for this one this time. Like Bob Marley said, only time will tell.

PS: I really wonder how Android Gingerbread and meego will pan out :)