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crown77 2010-08-19 14:58

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@hqh

at first its just my own opinion its not based at some random user dissatisfaction like you can see iam still working on and with my N900. The Problem i have is the way Nokia does handle there buisness and i hope if you buy that device, that you will get proper Updates after a year too. I dont mean bugfixes i mean real Updates with Features that maybe missed when the E9 is comming into sales.

The other thing is that i fear that if this Device is buyable the Community wont put effort into the N900 anymore becouse they have a new toy.. I did read wow maybe this is the new Dev Device for Meego ..so if it is how many Versions of Meego we will see for the "old" N900 then in future..

ericj23 2010-08-19 15:19

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a 1200 mh battery in this leak - seems very unlikely that nokia's mobile computer would come with a battery as small as that

Its a prototype of the n8 that was not released - or maybe it will if the n8 takes off

Dave999 2010-08-19 15:27

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I don,t trust this leak. I hope its fake. I will be pissed if the first meego device with keyboard is a n8 look-a-like

Bratag 2010-08-19 15:28

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Well there goes the Xmas bonus I guess.

NvyUs 2010-08-19 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ericj23 (Post 791906)
a 1200 mh battery in this leak - seems very unlikely that nokia's mobile computer would come with a battery as small as that

Its a prototype of the n8 that was not released - or maybe it will if the n8 takes off

prototype N8 running MeeGo? most unlikely imo.
Look in Pictures it as N9 stamped in Aluminum body

this is a new battery BV-4D people are speculating its 1320 mAH but no proof exists what it is yet.

quipper8 2010-08-19 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 791915)

this is a new battery BV-4D people are speculating its 1320 mAH but no proof exists what it is yet.

in the photos on the baidu site you can clearly see it marked

bv-4d 1320mAh 3.8V 5Wh

here

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C9%AD%C2%...6463d09f0f.jpg

Odd_gunnic 2010-08-19 15:48

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There are complaints of an oversized bezel but I think thats probably because the bezel is keyless unlike something like t-mobile's galaxy S.

I would have loved if Nokia incorporated the shortcut dock into the bezel, not as hard keys but changeable soft keys.

Uxi 2010-08-19 15:51

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like:

aluminum
color
big screen
keyboard key placement
hinge design (would prefer higher angle)


dislike

no lens cover
dual LED (was hoping for xenon)
1320 (was hoping for 1500+
spacebar placement
want physical menu / call / end keys on front face

hope:

64+ gb storage
wireless-N
optional 1500+ battery (Mugen?)



hopes achieved could well override dislikes.

Parody 2010-08-19 15:58

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From what I've heard it's still a prototype hardware wise, which means it won't look exactly like this when it launches. Which is good because to me it looks ugly (the shiny pebble like silver, the general shape isn't bad)

jlacombe 2010-08-19 15:59

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Only thing that really concerns me is the speculated 640 px screen resolution.

On a 4" screen!?

If this turns out to be true, my next handset will be Android for sure.

ArnimS 2010-08-19 16:00

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Looks like my days of carrying spare batteries is coming to a middle.

tissot 2010-08-19 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jlacombe (Post 791955)
Only thing that really concerns me is the speculated 640 px screen resolution.

On a 4" screen!?

If this turns out to be true, my next handset will be Android for sure.

Well then don't worry anymore.
Like already explained 640x360 is used on N8 and probally on most of the S^3 devices because of the apps. Symbian itself can scale up pretty easily.
Nokia already said in the announcement of Harmattan that next device after N900 will have 800 x 480 screen. Things might have changed since that old announcement, but i think only for better.

Maemo didn't have this problem and same goes for MeeGo. S^4 wont have this problem anymore as old apps other than the Qt ones made now don't run on it anymore.

shady 2010-08-19 16:18

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the chief marketing officer for nokia said the the meego device will be the tiptop high-end device for nokia.

so then WHY would the screen res be LESS than the n900 if it is the first meego?

that makes no sense, dont be absurd.

im hoping for A9 + the new Tosh 128gb storage chip + microsdxc compat. with true 16mil colors. get some tegra graphics up in this ***** and well have some fun. AS LONG AS we have the same freedoms afforded to us through maemo.

NokTokDaddy 2010-08-19 16:27

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N9(?) prototype looks promising. I'd definitely add it on to my list of 'maybe's' for my next device PROVIDING IT HAS:
  1. Full SatNav with parity to other Nokia handsets (i.e. NOT N900)
  2. Decent and FAST email client (i.e. NOT N900)
  3. Decent battery life (N900 duration would suffice)
  4. User-swappable batteries (like N900)
  5. Rugged USB port (NOT like N900)
  6. Desktop contact widgets (like N900)

These are the features I'll insist on next time and I'm afraid I won't be amongst the first to get N9 or whatever the new Meego device turns out to be. I rather sold myself short on the SatNav and Email client on N900 by telling myself that Nokia would implement them on N900 soon...:o

"Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me"

Back in the here & now I'm still enjoying my N900. It's not been what I expected (or hoped for) in some areas, but it has been the most engaging device I've ever owned.

My N900 will leave a big pair of boots to fill. Very often it's the imperfections and shortfalls that make for the experience - ask anyone whose owned an Italian motorbike or a British sportscar...:D

ikirk 2010-08-19 16:28

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Didnt really like the looks of this N9, looks very bland - think the previous mockup version looked much better. Have to hope the final version will have a decent finish and better materials.

tissot 2010-08-19 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shady (Post 791981)
im hoping for A9 + the new Tosh 128gb storage chip + microsdxc compat. with true 16mil colors. get some tegra graphics up in this ***** and well have some fun. AS LONG AS we have the same freedoms afforded to us through maemo.

Yes i know numbers aren't everything before anybody goes after that, but i agree and that would truly be something that would put Nokia on the top again as far as hw is concerned.

That said i think what we will see will be OMAP36xx.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 791992)
Didnt really like the looks of this N9, looks very bland - think the previous mockup version looked much better. Have to hope the final version will have a decent finish and better materials.

As far as materials goes Nokia is slowly starting to be the best there while HTC makes plastic/metal phones and Samsung makes it's flagship ALL plastic(and from a crappy plastic). Nokia is actually going for full aluminium phones.

ikirk 2010-08-19 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 791993)
Nokia is actually going for full aluminium phones.

That's the thing I would expect on a high end phone - but the unit on these pictures is (IMHO) not made of aluminium. Looks like ordinary plastic sprayed silver. I wouldnt put money on the keyboard shell lasting more than a year of regular use before the paint rubs off.

Noma 2010-08-19 16:45

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Has anyone noticed the 3.8V text in the battery? I think Nokia has last few years used 3.7V batteries. Maybe this could have something to do with the Moorestown architecture? :)

stlpaul 2010-08-19 16:46

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Is the latest action in the Nokia vs Apple lawsuits? Nokia decides to completely copy Apple's design?

NvyUs 2010-08-19 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 792017)
Is the latest action in the Nokia vs Apple lawsuits? Nokia decides to completely copy Apple's design?

did not know apple held a patented for silver and black, that's all it as in common with apple mac book
we could say they copied their own booklet 3G design or my HP pavillion

tissot 2010-08-19 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 792012)
That's the thing I would expect on a high end phone - but the unit on these pictures is (IMHO) not made of aluminium. Looks like ordinary plastic sprayed silver. I wouldnt put money on the keyboard shell lasting more than a year of regular use before the paint rubs off.

Well you can see on the bottom and top sides the of the device that got different shade. Those are the small plastic parts where the antenna is like on the E7 and N8.

Eldar Murtazin said that the device is indeed all aluminium other than keyboard and the antenna parts.

Parody 2010-08-19 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 792017)
Is the latest action in the Nokia vs Apple lawsuits? Nokia decides to completely copy Apple's design?

http://img.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/noki...-n9-real-1.jpg
Compared to
http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploa...4-pricing2.jpg
http://www.computersavenue.com/wp-co...ok-unibody.jpg
this is a copied design? really?

SavageD 2010-08-19 17:01

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Dont like it's look at all, and it looks huge, real huge...but thin...and that kb, definitly not for gaming. Those spaces are a prob for me.

gabby131 2010-08-19 17:07

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i wanna get my first nokia 4-row qwerty keyboard someday, but is the OS as open source as maemo?

call me whatever you want, but i just wanna know :)

hyartep 2010-08-19 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gabby131 (Post 792041)
i wanna get my first nokia 4-row qwerty keyboard someday, but is the OS as open source as maemo?

call me whatever you want, but i just wanna know :)

n9 will have meego - that is direct descendant of maemo (and moblin)

gabby131 2010-08-19 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hyartep (Post 792049)
n9 will have meego - that is direct descendant of maemo (and moblin)

oh shoot! thanks, this is what a guy looks like when he's not reading or paying attention to details,

im still dumb to think that maemo 6 is the next maemo, i did not thought (or just forgot) that the maemo 6 is changed to meego/hamattan.

Laughing Man 2010-08-19 17:14

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Whether Nokia Meego will be as "open" as Maemo is a debatable issue considering the DRM they are considering on adding (and if you modify the kernel then the DRM stuff won't work supposedly). So it depends on how invasive the DRM is.

Last I read was, the idea was you can run a non-DRMed version that lets you do whatever you want but then you don't have access to DRMed apps.

Russianhaxor 2010-08-19 17:15

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Something doesn't seem right... the USB connector has to be a MicroUSB and that thing doesn't look like its a MicroUSB. That's my concern right now.

Also if you look at Meego, the battery indicator is on the right... not on the left like in this phone. 10 bucks says its a fake.

imperiallight 2010-08-19 17:16

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The news of this device has reached the free metro newspaper in London. Anyone who knows this publication will know that means its big news as it usually deals in soundbites.

luomuhappo 2010-08-19 17:19

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ugly. horrible edges and spacing in kb.

bugelrex 2010-08-19 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi (Post 791944)
like:

aluminum
color
big screen
keyboard key placement
hinge design (would prefer higher angle)


dislike

no lens cover
dual LED (was hoping for xenon)
1320 (was hoping for 1500+
spacebar placement
want physical menu / call / end keys on front face

hope:

64+ gb storage
wireless-N
optional 1500+ battery (Mugen?)



hopes achieved could well override dislikes.


Hopefully the keyboard is better than the n97. It looks similar but if it doesn't have much travel they should not have bothered with the keyboard at all... The N900 KB is already barely acceptable

imperiallight 2010-08-19 17:37

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Quote:

ugly. horrible edges and spacing in kb.
The silver makes it look "prototypy" and unpainted. Edges are sharper than the n8 which had better looking edges but they are conscious device is too long as it is I bet. It probably looks better closed when in the hand. Spacing in KB means a lot more travel and the keys look quite recessed not domed. I am happy with the spacebar placement.

I would still say its a quantum leap from the n900 though. Especially as the 'air' thinness looks quite revolutionary for a qwerty.

GSMarena have it down as a 640*360 Super Amoled. Hopefully it will be higher than that.

kinggo 2010-08-19 17:43

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some kind of D-pad on the left side of the keyboard please. And black colour.

vivainio 2010-08-19 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 792055)
Whether Nokia Meego will be as "open" as Maemo is a debatable issue considering the DRM they are considering on adding (and if you modify the kernel then the DRM stuff won't work supposedly). So it depends on how invasive the DRM is.

I'm puzzled what you want in the end:

- DRM supported -> not open enough

- DRM disabled because you reflashed a custom image -> bad as well

Supporting DRM doesn't make anything less open - it means you have a feature you can use if you want. If you don't want to use the drm feature, live like you lived with N900.

Trust me, having DRM / trusted platform enabler will mean more software to be available for the device, with zero damage to open ecosystem. Unless you count pirates as part of open ecosystem...

mikecomputing 2010-08-19 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 792055)
Whether Nokia Meego will be as "open" as Maemo is a debatable issue considering the DRM they are considering on adding (and if you modify the kernel then the DRM stuff won't work supposedly). So it depends on how invasive the DRM is.

Last I read was, the idea was you can run a non-DRMed version that lets you do whatever you want but then you don't have access to DRMed apps.

Dont forget that adobeflash is also NOT open. also GFX drivers is probadly not fully open.

But I have no problem with the fact that everyting is not fully open cause better have a mobilecomputer that has most what we want than a halfdone :-)

tissot 2010-08-19 18:07

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So the RX-71 that's as old name as RX-51(N900) gets back again inside this bug report. :D There where lots of rumours and what not about it before N900 announcement.
http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTMOBILITY-302

wazd 2010-08-19 18:15

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For those kids who think that Apple invented chiclet keyboard, try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Color_Computer

Rauha 2010-08-19 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 791780)
no ovi suite support for at least another 1-2 months

Connected USB device.

Ovi Suite Mode.


http://zomgitscj.com/wp-content/uplo...-n9-keypad.jpg

tissot 2010-08-19 18:22

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While i'm all for the qwerty would be cool if the rumoured non qwerty version of N9 would end up looking like the design by community challenge where in the end after all the specs Nokia made mockup of how they device might look like.
http://188.65.36.70/wp-content/uploa...ketch1_dbc.jpg

fnordianslip 2010-08-19 18:26

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So, do we think this is a Harmattan or Meego device? I'm tempted to skip Harmattan devices as they've been Osbourned by Meego. I hope Nokia do too ...


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