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Euchreprof's request for a simple answer in a complex problem reminds me of a similar trend close to my profession. When measuring human movement, more and more sophysticated technology is being used. Typically a report on a patient's movement problems includes several pages of specialised information that only specialists can understand. Against this level of complexity stands the surgeon who wants a simple answer from the biomechanist sometimes in the form of "do I transfer this muscle or not?".

The interesting development over the past years has been that rather than suffocating each other in public, the two sides are moving towards a solution. Biomechanists are now able to condense their findings and simplify the otherwise complex results. On the other hand the surgeons are developing an in depth understanding of biomechanics and begin to appreciate that their over-simplified questions are not valid questions.

The analogy may not be perfectly correct (as they never are) but I thought that the evolution of this off topic matter might be useful to share.

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Thou hast seen the light, my son, and thou shallst be blessed amongst the blessed in the Gardens of the Lynix Gods. Go forth into the world and spread the Holy Word of the Xterm amongst the groveling heathen.
Take care not to chew popcorn with your mouth open though. That is the way of the BSD Devil.

(is the coffee weird this morning or what ? :-)

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OK OK it's complex... but guess what... AFTER I LOAD X-TERM... give me the very next command line i type in... is it the word "dsniff"? WHAT IS THE VERY FIRST THING I DO? WHY COMPLICATE THIS STUFF? After you tell me the very first thing to do I will see what happens and have another question on what to do next... BOTTOM LINE IS IF I HAD A LINYX FRIEND AT MY HOUSE WHO KNEW THIS STUFF I WOULD LEARN IT IN 1 AFTERNOON even though it might have took him years to read read read and play the game with the Old Boys Club... You can try to tell me how complex this is BECAUSE IT IS COMPLEX WHEN U NEED TO LEARN THIS STUFF ALL OVER THE INTERNET, but if demonstrated for me then i could learn it in such a simple way I AM SURE OF IT! DOES ANYONE WANT TO PROVE ME WRONG ON HERE? MAKE ME EAT CROW I DARE U. See the only reason I am here is to learn how to run every single program I can download from maemo... I am not here for the same reasons KARL is. He likes to post a smilely after every single one of his posts... I want COMMAND LINES TO RUN PROGRAMS. We obviosuly do not see eye to eye, thus no help from him... I will say this... the programmers of actual programs are the most helpful ones... nix guy who did GAIN give command lines to uninstall the old GAIN... media converter guy gives command lines for his programs that are useful... USEFUL IS THE KEY WORD... THEY DON'T FIRST ASK THE NEWBIES TO GOOGLE "HOW TO PORT A PROGRAM OVER TO HILTON" BEFORE THEY WILL HELP US.

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Hilton :) hehe

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NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT! Thanks for the amusement. Why the hell can't this guy spell linux right? Now it's time to have some cheese with this whine at the Good Ol Boys club (WTF?)! He sounds remarkably alot like the last server of cheese and whine. Well time to ignore this thread....but it's been real entertaining.

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Try: Followed by: I guess I might have crossed some line :)

*edit*

On second thoughts... DO NOT TRY THIS!

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This euchreprof guy must be a joke character or something, either that or I don't get his point. Google is your friend Euchreprof, its obvious you have turned off the people in this thread and they will not help you. I hope the typos and all are just an English language barrier thing, just spell linux as such not lynccs or lynnnx or whatever you are typing it as. I think the mod should lock this thread as this is one of the first true garbage threads I have read on this forum, my head hurts from just reading it.

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I second the lock request. Hope Reggie sees this.

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This has got to be the most screwed up thread I've ever seen. I know I'm new here, but not new to linux (see, I can spell it right), or wep cracking, or even wpa cracking. All the info you, the OP, needs is on the intraweb. There's even step, by step destructions. Most likely the reason no one will help you, other than the demanding way you asked, is they don't want to end up being an accessory to a felony. Connecting to a network without permission is illegal, period.

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I'm not a "Lynix PRO", not even a Linux Pro. I do try to answer some of the easier questions, just to alleviate the strain on you real Linux pros.

(I don't really understand the "Lynix" part. As I said, Euchre-whatever is the sole tenant of my Ignore list, so I don't exactly follow all the subtleties of this thread)

Edit: Oh, "battlegeweled"! Now I get it! Good one. :D

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They never would have helped me or anyone else on this topic anyhow. I read every sinlge post on here and I know how it all goes down. My only hope (besides reading and hacking for 1 year before I get it) was to bring these facts to the surface and make an impression on some Lynix pro who knows all this stuff and who "gets me". It's a skill I used many times in my life... 99.9% goes against me but that 1 person out of 1000 likes my style = I get/recieve non BS support = I reach my goal. Never fails. Lynix is above my head but this pychological stuff is above 99.9% of the people. Go google how whales work together to find enough food to eat and take notes. It's all about surviving. You would think there was no possible way such a large animal could find enough food to eat on a daily basis but they do. It's impressive. Just like a Lynix idiot learning how to crack WIFI in 1 day.

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Yo, you are merely a "Member" with only 36 posts... *I* am a "Senior Member" with over 100 posts. WATCH HOW YOU TALK TO ME YOUNG MAN!

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Almost got me man! Thanks for the edit.

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You certainly have.:mad:

To any Linux novice reading this: This sequence of commands will wipe everything off your tablet. It is the equivalent of the DOS command "format c:", except that it will not ask if you're really really sure about this (that's the -rf part; just google for "man rm").

Actually, if there are still Linux novices following this thread, google "man [linux_command_I_don't_understand]" is a quick and cheap way to learn some basic stuff about Linux command line.

Edit: Okay, what with the ROM and such, even rm won't probably get everything off, but I'm pretty certain it won't do nice things with the files in userspace and on memory cards.

And no, I'm not volunteering to find out...

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KARL now you are acting like the newbie... internet message board study/stats show 99.99999% of the people who PUBLICALLY post they have someone on their "ignore list" DO NOT INFACT HAVE THEM ON THEIR IGNORE LIST! You have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than for this statement to ever be true! The comment is simply posted as a putdown/comeback which worked well back in the mid 1990's before the study/stats were conducted/published. Too bad I don't have the link to this study/stats... try to google it.

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Damn convulted, I was going to give him the same command :) It would have solved all his problems...

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Sorry all... my "rm" post was me being a bit too Mediterranean (read: uncivilised). So once again, it was a bad joke and ignore it!

*edit*

It seems I'm not the only one witn a bad sense of humour then :)

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Build a time machine, go back a week or so, and try a different approach. Best way to prove or disprove.

It is an established fact that Karel is a .00001% kinda guy.

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I better get out of this thread. It seems I'm missing about half the "input" (speaking purely technically, of course) and I'm not inclined to un-dungeon this guy.

Thanks for the .00001% though, although I don't quite get it.

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His game is extremely predicable because he doesn't even know his own game, but I have been in message forums for 20 years (bbs days) and I know his game.

PS: I thought you had to sleep? Owned!

PPS: I am at work at the moment so it's all good for me... I am making money and this thread is definately entertaining me.

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Too late. KARL=Owned.

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Glad to be of service.

See? We're not all bad. Even the .00001 percenters (:p Karel).

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Hahahahahahahaha! What a tard. Ohhhh, scary, a "senior" member. Freaking tool.

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Email me if you need to learn this... I just cracked Wifi and I am willing to share what I have just been taught... i didnt master it but I did it and i got the gest of it... will take another week to master and ask more questions to my Lynix pro guy and then I will post what i have been taught directly... NOW FOR ME THIS THREAD SERVED IT'S PURPOSE AND I AM DONE WITH IT UNTIL EXACTLY 1 WEEK FROM NOW WHEN I POST WITH CONFIDENCE WHAT I JUST ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT. I NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT AS I WILL PROVE IN THE NEXT WEEK WHEN I GET TRASHED BUT DONT RESPOND... BUT... I WILL MAKE MY POST 1 WEEK FROM TODAY... I COULD DO IT NOW BUT I NEED TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY REALLY EASY FOR A NEWBIE.

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Just one more question before you go, Mr. President: Nancy Pelosi in 20 words or less.

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If we look at it from a broader perspective, euchreprof just wants to be able to get some things done FIRST, whilst learning the finer points along the way, instead of having to learn MOST of it before embarking on it.

Just different ways of reaching the final goal. I do see the need of some users who prefer to do first, get some positive results, and then pick up new knowledge from there. This gives them less steep of a learning curve as compared to having to read a whole lot before they can do anything. It is also less daunting and more encouraging. As a windows user, I find that Linux can be quite difficult to pick up, so having some (some!) easier way to do things to boost one's confidence will win more users.

Of course, asking nicely may have helped more, but perhaps he prefers it this way, which most of the people in the forums would not like. :)

Anyway, just wanted everyone to appreciate that there are many ways to the goal and how you get there, depends on your preference and resources available to you.

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Oh heck, luke, I personally have no problem with what you just described there. I've pled for quick-and-dirty myself on occasion. I'm betting others having fun with this thread have too. But hopefully we Old Guys are utilizing a smoother approach. ;)

'night all.

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wow...just. wow.

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It's not Lynix.

It's GNU/Lynix!

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Actually, it's GNAT/Lynix.

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Yeah, anyone that insists on calling Linux "Lynix" after several hints (and even blatant corrections) is really going to appreciate the "quick-and-dirty" answer and be encouraged to learn more.:rolleyes:

euchreprof, "Say Lynix one more time, I dare you, I double dare you ************!" "Lynix ain't no operating system I heard of! Do they program in C++ in Lynix!?";)

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This guy is obviously a fraud. One of the Old Boys having a good laugh at our expense -- c'mon Karel, out with it already ! :-)

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Well, we do know a certain poster did create another persona that then proceeded to insult himself in the third person... ;)

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Wow.

If he had actually spent his time searching on Google instead of repeatedly complaining and insulting pretty much everyone on the board, he would have figured out what he needed days ago.

Just doesn't seem to understand that the people here are more than happy to help anyone that needs it, but they aren't going to do your work for you. Besides, it's far more helpful to understand what it is you are typing instead of just blindly typing away random commands.

Supporting the script kiddie nature of people like him is harmful because then they will keep coming back expecting... no, demanding the same thing time and time again instead of learning for themselves.

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Yeah, right. As if...

Besides, everybody knows I'm a black hat WiFi cracker. No airwave is safe from me.

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But dontcha know, we all are 3l33t black-hat WiFi crackers; nay WiFi pirates, matey - we all know the answers, but we won't show where the X is that marks the spot!

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I think this thread has run long enough. So much flaming in it that it has become unhealthy already to the community. I'm locking this thread. Thanks for all your inputs. Let's all move on.

Thank you.