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Exactly. As far as we know at the moment:
The N9 with MeeGo (Harmattan) is still debian based. It's maemo 6 with the MeeGo brand on top. The next Device after the N9 will get the fedora based MeeGo. But perhaps we will see not so many differences. The UI for booth devices is based on the same system: Qt.

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Thanks. but this comes to my second question. will the maemo 6 (meego branded) be updated to the real meego 1.2 once it will be available( official I mean) ?

also based on this pic : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Go_Roadmap.jpg only moblin 2.2 is branded as meego 1.0

I think we will wait and see.

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I don't think Nokia have made any announcements about that, so we don't know.

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Not so sure about the "reusing old stuff" aspect of A8.

TI has itself only last month managed to get its new Beagleboard into limited production with the new 1Ghz omap3, still US only according to their page.

The 600MHz beagbleboard was available a long time before N900 with 600Mhz processor was announced. (In the meanwhile TI also released a 720MHz version).

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I don't think the question has been asked so far so here I go...

If I don't trust MeeGo so far... When the N9 comes out, wouid I be able to flash the device with Maemo? Because I am currently very satisfied with Maemo...

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No. Due to hardware differences, firmware images for the N900 will not simply flash onto the MeeGo-Harmattan device.

It might be possible to get Maemo 5 running on the MeeGo-Harmattan device, but doing so would take some work. There's an effort underway to rebuild Maemo 5 on top of a MeeGo base, and if that's successful, then that will be your solution.

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I didn't know there was an effort for maemo5 ontop of MeeGo base.. Got a link?

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Based on this pic I can't see any difference between Handset and Tablet. I think Harmattan is a other thing... perhaps starting from MeeGo v1.2 they are based on the same core?

It's very confusing. :( And I'm sure, the most people at Intel or Nokia, don't understand it, too.
Please read here at Texrat's Blog for more information about it:
But for the really important stuff, update the Harmattan Device to real meego: I would wait until the Device AND the Update to Meego 1.2 is released. I will do so. If there is no update path (because of the total different core system (maemo/meego) I would advise to wait for the successor of the N9 and don't buy this device.

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I personally think it would be wiser for Nokia to completly drop Maemo 6/Harmattan and fully focus on MeeGo... I don't see a reason for Harmattan to exist when MeeGo will begin. Although I am all for Maemo 2.0 for future references.

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The reasoning is simple: MeeGo Handset is not ready yet!

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So did you guys hear? The famous (nokia-hating) Eldar Murtazin was deemed impressed with the "near-perfect" hardware of the N9! That is certainly a very good first impression :)

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(Btw... I couldn't believe an actual blog comment was news-worthy... lol)

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i'll believe it when i get my greezy paws on one

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Off topic - N8

here is a really good indication of development and design from Nokia, when Damien D approached various forum like dpreview.com for thier input on the N8 camera.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...aking-part-12/
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=35171174

And back to the N9 and future, it is good to see that they are making use of the right people or rather people with new energy and attitude.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/20...okia-on-meego/
http://www.zurb.com/article/438/-pod...-talk-on-innov

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Well, hope not another empty promises...like we heard for N900... after 1 year of owning it, still the same. Don't really look forward for the N9. :)

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Well I've been also owning the N900 for almost a year, I am still as satisfied as the first d...month (i was gonna say day but i remember it took me a while to get used to it, lol). IMO, I honestly believe Maemo beats hands down Android, iOS, Symbian, and all the others. The Nokia N900 has introduced me to Linux and Open-Source'ness, and I fell in love with you. I am currently still considering replacing my entire WIndows machine at home with some sort of Linux.

Am VERY looking forward to the N9, it can only be an Epic Win

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Actually i couldn't be more happy as he absolutely hated N900/Maemo 5 UI.
In a other hand Eldar really throws alot of info out there everyday and some hit, some don't. He knows alot there's no doubt about it, but there's lots of false info from him too(sometimes i think it's just for his agenda...). In that sense the "almost perfect" hw can mean anything. From the kind of specs we are expecting to having pretty much same specs but a golden nugget added like example A9 core rather than A8.

What i'm trying to say here is that we didn't really learn anything from his comment. ;)

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loll, that's what most people in that forum are saying, it's up to your own impressions :P
I say it could be the camera. The N8 has an incredibly amazing camera for a mobile device, and I'm 100% there is no logic in adding the same camera module on the N9 (for business reasons). I just hope we don't get the same 5mp lens that we got from N900...which itself got from the N97.

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I actually got good feeling that we will see 12mpx in N9. There's a guy in MR forums that's in the know and he have hinted stronly N9 to have 12mpx AF camera.
Rumours of course, but still a rumour i can get behind. :)

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I would definitively love that, it's just I'd rather not get my hopes too high, lol. Because I personally think that if they release the same camera lens in both N8 and N9, then... I don't see much of a future for the N8, im sure they're only gonna be a few bucks of difference anyways. But again, I'm gonna keep my hopes high to get an A9 core, lol. With that, I can even be satisfied with a 5mp camera, hehe.

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8mpx i would imagine ... it is not the camera flagship for nokia, but it will have a good sensor.

and i have a feeling were going to see an omap4430 ;) ... if by chance we also get a native 720p screen as well as the openness of linux, i cant wait.

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This is something I would believe, 8mpx is pretty "reasonable" for 2010 technology.


Allllllll I trully ever wanted, was a device that could natively play a 720p .mkv file... SPECIALLY with a massive storage of 64gb+32gb, omg that's orgasmic, lol. I could just imagine, with HDMI-out, watching 720p files on large screens, just crazy.

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Well,

I showed this N8 vs. 550D shootout to some camera snobs and even they were quite impressed:

http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/0...non-550d-dslr/

If N9 has the same camera module, polish somewhat firmware AND keep price on N900 level I am sold on day one.

Note however that those specs are impressing for today. If Nokia delay N9 for half a year there will be competition and this hardware won't be looking so good.

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Well N8 is selling for 470 euros now and at the time N9 comes out i would expect that price to drop more. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Nokia's flagship, N9 costs ~600 euros.
I mean Nokia haven't even had real high end portfolio for over a year already and i would think N9 wont have xenon. Thing that puzzles me is how could N8 camera module fit to N9? Guy over MR did say that the camera would have AF still.

A9 core to me would be much bigger surprise than any N8 camera module in a same time something i would rather see than amazing camera.

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omap4 would be a good strong move for market dominance amongst the tweakers. i think that 64gb is gonna be on point, i would like to see a microsdxc slot as well ... hdmi audio out, and usb audio out as well as LINE instead of merely headphone out. higher voltage swing from the DSP. anyway i hope that we get some info, we got a tear down a few weeks ago and then nothing, not even a clip of it running.

and a compass ... (i almost missed out on the N900 because of this) however the keyboard won out.

omap4, 1280*720 CBD, 1gb ram, 64gb storage + XC slot to start.

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my dream :

1.2Ghz A9 dual core processor, or even Morrestone, or (let be fool) quad core A15 at 2.0 ghz
1 ou 2Gb real RAM (not 256 mb + swap)
SGX450 graphics
64gb internal memory
microCD slot supporting new XDHC card (up to 128 GB !!)
MeeGo tweaked by nokia (with nokia tools : ovi...)
4.1" Resisitive but multitouch screen (like Stantum one) in 1280x720x32bit CBD
bluetooth 4.0
open GL 4.1
3G, 3G+ and 4G
Wifi N
IR (for some good remote control apps)
frontal 2mp webcam
rear full HD camera (at least 8MPx)
full QWERTY keyboard witt spaced keys (as on proto)
no button or holes on the face, a full black flat surface
alu casing, or baby skin (you know, this soft plastic, like on 5800's rear)
dolby surrond speakers
micro hdmi, micro usb (with charging, host, and OTG), and Jack 3.5
quick access physical keys for power, +/- and camera
a cache for the rear camera with auto on function
xenon flash + led one for some cases (like prolunged video taking or even torch app)
double sim support
removable 4000Mah lithium ion battery
design alliance between N9 proto and second nokia U project draft (http://www.journal-du-mobile.com/wp-...ty-nokia-2.jpg) because i like the design and the speakers holes with usb dissimulated in.


EDIT: and i forgotten : gorilla glass screen, to be scratch proof and not need an ugly screen protection



PLEASE DO IT NOKIA, i would even pay 800$ for it if it exists...

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That spec would cost much more than $800... the 4000Mah battery alone would be at least 100$

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why ? its quite the same specs as the N8 and its cost less than 500$...

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Quite a few differences that are probably costly:
2Gb real RAM
4.1" Resisitive but multitouch screen (like Stantum one) in 1280x720x32bit CBD
removable 4000Mah lithium ion battery

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:confused::confused::confused:

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Quite the same except for these parts. :D

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- No OMAP4, as it's too late and OMAP3 was already mentioned (thus no Cortex A9).
- It will have a capacitive screen.
- No SDXC support, as Linux doesn't support writing to exFAT currently.
- No accelerated desktop OpenGL. OpenGL ES 2 only.

The rest of specs either don't matter (bezel color, exact CPU frequency, ...), can be guessed easily, or are related to whether it will have a keyboard or not (something I'm not going to put my finger on yet).

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Pipe dream people... don't get your hopes too high because nokia is well known for killing peoples hope. There is NO way they we will get a device before the end of October, NO WAY!!!. They haven't even finished the OS... They better get their act together before Gingerbread comes out.

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Please lets keep these "dream" specs out of this thread. :)
I do think N9 will have A8 inside, but what do you mean that it's too late? If Nokia would be putting A9 core inside N9 that decission would have happened long long time ago and N9 earliest release(end of Q4 this year) fits to the supposed OMAP4440/OMAP4430 shipping to customers, Q4 this year.

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Right. And then I woke up. Silly humans.

.edit
Get real people with your wishes. Sadly we are not yet speaking about desktop computers where you can just hocuspocus update components. We are talking about bulk devices that need beforehand reconstruction of cells and manufacturing lines before they are made. This means that HW is probably locked down year or maybe more in advance. Surely in future there will be mobile devices that you are able to probably even upgrade yourself but not yet.

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Exactly. And it happened more than a year and half ago, back when you couldn't even try to boot Linux on a OMAP4.

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No rw support for exFAT, rather. SDXC works fine electronicall and mechanically even on the N800, it's just a function of using a non-proprietary filesystem.

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Resistive screen with gorilla glass wins the most absurd spec award.

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I want the Nokia Morph !!!
That's my dream, now University of Cambridge, make it happen!

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Actually, there have been some Palm handhelds with both resistive screens and glass.

If gorilla glass 'd work with any sensitivity, that I don't know.

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for use with proper audio equipment ... some ppl cant carry their stuff around but want to sample DACs and AMPs with the music they listen to regularly. it would be nice to be able to output audio digitally ... usb is jittery though and so is HDMI however the HDMI has a much higher bandwidth for audio.

supposedly the N8 outputs audio over hdmi as well ... i have not read this officially though.


about the N9 having omap4, i dont think its so far fetched ... TI is a huge partner with nokia, omap4 has been available for quite sometime, since february i believe. now the blaze platform was only just released, shipments of the chips to manufacturers began a while ago, so it would fit the timeline of 12-16 months for producing the next top nokia device. TI has said that the first finished products would appear Q4 this year. we shall see, even if its omap4430 ... the battery savings would be near 40% according to TI.

as far as a capacitive, im saddened by this, i like using my screen whenever i please ... regardless, i hope the screen is 1280*720 if its not, thats cool too. but if it is, that would go a long way for recording HD videos, and viewing pictures.

i have no proof, but the november conference and the scope with which nokia partners with TI, its unlikely that they pimp the older proc, but then again the N97 surprised everyone with the weak proc ... so theres precedence for us to be let down immensely.

omap4 ftw!

about the FAT32 thing ... i dont get why SDXC couldnt be supported. up to 2TB per partition .. is it purely linux, cuz it doesnt seem like its a table allocation problem.