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Re: [Request] Guitar Amplification
No unfortunately my time was spent on gtkgep.
which works. after alot of mangling to get it to run on antix and a few other distros... after alot of work and alot of help from android808 and kot... both of whom were far more brilliant than I could have been and who achieved ultimate-gtkgep-on-n900/n8x0-uber-mangling... If anything works next... I'd be betting on jackd being at the root of it.... since we have it..(weird eh?) Next I could see would be Jesusonic (which is as freakin' awesome as it's name...works on windows, works on x86 linux...I use it...I don't see why a port of it wouldn't happen..) kotzarny has been messing with sox in his ocmp prog...so I don't see why an app couldn't be wrapped around sox for real-time fx. Lotta potential here... me at this point ... I'm currently playin' messin' with gtkgep on my nxx0's... hmm.. also... when android808 finishes with gtk puttering.. it may be likely a better version of gtkgep will come out of it.. perhaps NEW presets too may be a possibility consequently ... I would love rakarrack full screen on our devices... there is rak for arm under squeeze, wheezy and i'm sure jessie as well...so easy deb to the rescue? be great to have exef too... be great to have creox, and ecamegapedal too... be great to have them all... takes porting and testing... the ultimate would be a very flexible prog... that is simple ... visually elegant... with a finger friendly interface... that doesn't waste screen space... nor is too tight and small to see and use... that has multiple on screen racks or cabinets or whatever people wish to call them (here is where the setup of rak is perfect....just too many cabinets statically showing all at once on screen makes for a very small tight space of interaction for our devices... perhaps scrolling screen via sumthin qt-like...super slick....so could shuffle between a screen that has 2-3or 4 cabinets on the screen at a time...much better layout for us...) with the ability to create new presets/cabinets/raks/whathaveyou more easily... then one could technically have it all...the best of all rt fx processors in one... grand thought... Gotta hand it to you though.. nerves of steel there friend.. trying to run exef raw without mangling it 1st into something either maemo or easy deb could understand and handle is gutsy.. |
Re: [Request] Guitar Amplification
interesting find: http://calf-studio-gear.org/images/C...dio%20Gear.jpg
any takers to test it out on n900? citation from: http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/calf Calf Studio Gear is an audio plug-in pack for LV2 and JACK environments under LINUX operating systems. The suite contains lots of effects (delay, modulation, signal processing, filters, equalizers, dynamics, distortion and mastering effects), instruments (SF2 player, organ simulator and a monophonic synthesizer) and tools (analyzer, mono/stereo tools, crossovers). Calf Studio Gear aims for a professional audience. Instruments and tone generators (Organ, Monosynth, Wavetable, Fluidsynth) Modulation effects (Multi Chorus, Phaser, Flanger, Rotary, Pulsator, Ring Modulator) Delay effects (Reverb, Vintage Delay,Compensation Delay Line, Reverse Delay) Dynamic processors (Compressor, Sidechain Compressor, Multiband Compressor, Mono Compressor, Deesser, Gate, Sidechain Gate, Multiband Gate, Limiter, Multiband Limiter, Sidechain Limiter, Transient Designer) Filters and equalizers (Filter, Filterclavier, Envelope Filter, Equalizer 5 Band, Equalizer 8 Band, Equalizer 12 Band, Equalizer 30 Band, Vocoder, Emphasis) Distortion and enhancement (Saturator, Exciter, Bass Enhancer, Tape Simulator, Crusher) Tools (Mono Input, Stereo Tools, Haas Stereo Enhancer, Analyzer, X-Over 2 Band, X-Over 3 Band, X-Over 4 Band) |
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Do I reaaaalllllyyyy have to answer?
:D You can assume it a given... that if it is rt fx processing ... I'll be one of the 1st to play with it.... I have a beater n900 to test with... throw it at me Kot. :D I was wondering about calf ... but I thought it beyond our luverly old n900's... if it will work... well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSjjZM1Ovs0 |
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Back to the fun here.
Been enjoying gtkgep on my nxx0 with my harps, Kotczarny any luck with calf on the n900? That would be a HUGE gain for real time on our devices. Also I have fiddled some with the latest oscp , any possibility of real time with it? been meaning to ask those two questions. and lastly guys... I have been looking at one of my all time favorites for some time now. Jesusonic "God's own effects processor" it is coined. (and it is pretty damn good even though it is over a decade old now) I have used it for years and years and years... Is there any reason why we couldn't get it to work on our n8x0's ? since Diablo runs linux 2.6 and alsa and oss are a given... It would be a big step toward real time effects processing that is highly configurable, and effects that can be easily written for it. |
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so many TODOs, so little time.
1/ haven't touched calf unfortunatelly. 2/ on n8x0 you dont have oss/alsa. only esd (which emulates oss). and audio hw devices are plain weird. 3/ real time in oscp: you mean having some effects on input from mic or just on playback? |
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1- ach!
2- right right right...esd ....argh ..I had blissfully forgotten the tumor it was causing me 3- real time in oscp: input from mic would be nice. |
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Aha!
Sooooo... esd may be an issue concerning implementing Calf or Jesusonic on the n8x0's Buuuuuuuut... what about implementing Calf or Jesusonic on the n900? Instead of esd , it is the joy of alsa and pulseaudio on the n900... Soooo, possibly possible? |
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Some may think I am flogging a dead horse here...
talking about jesusonic still... For myself I have used it ...the original jesusonic that is...from back 2003-2004 ... https://www.cockos.com/jesusonic/img..._win32_099.gif Instead of being stuck with someone else's concept of a "complete" system, with no room to grow and create inside of, like every other effects processor... I always had a thing for it since one can write one's own effects for it, one isn't restricted. sure it isn't flashy, it is the opposite of that. But what it can do... here is a good example what jesusonic 2004 can do... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWS4JKi0w80 And so my hopes that the linux version (it is free) of jesusonic could run on the nxx0's some never stopped working on jesusonic and making it better, by the way... In fact, Flash forward a few years ... Like to this year to last May And look at the evolution of jesusonic into this Freaky *****!!! I JUST stumbled into this and discussions on their work over the last 3 years. I HAD NO IDEA it was still being worked on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9fOeBecaY I had no idea... This new reimagining and use of jesusonic .. jsusfx - the Opensource Jesusonic FX implementation for linux... is in the debian and buntu repos...as in current builds. I will have to play with this plugged into one of my instruments on my laptop. |
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I decided to investigate a bit. Jsusfx needs puredata which in turn needs python3 and Jack which would involve a little more work.
Original jesusonic I haven't found source for. Only release I can find is a prebuilt x86 tarball. |
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I wasn't expecting the latest iteration to work on anyrhing we have.
As far as the original Jesusonic goes ... I will look and dig through what I have... See if I have a copy of the source. I am sure I have it somewhere here. |
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no...
I couldn't find it... Thought I had source for it. I was mistaken..it was a different thing completely I had source for. In fact so far to my knowledge, the source code for the linux version of the old Jesusonic 0.991 was never released... I could again be mistaken, but ...I could not find it anywhere. Perhaps I wasn't looking in the right places...and another will have better luck. |
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hmmm....
well if no source code for Jesusonic (0.991 that is) what about calf studio ? soooo... the n900 does have ladspa (if I remember right) perhaps a python frame wrapped around ladspa utilizing calf plugins? not just any calf will do ...either... for ladspa...and calf to work ... you need better than calf... you need ... (wait for it..) Veal. hahaha yup. Veal is calf for ladspa https://github.com/LMMS/veal TheLast remaining LADSPA-capable fork of the Calf Studio Gear audio plugins .. whaddya think guys ? oh ...wait...Veal runs through LMMS ..and that is pretty much an easy debian nightmare...LMMS just never played well with others when it came to our devices... If I remember some got it running ...somewhat ok...on the n810... But seriously mixed results, and now easy debian for the n810 is so old ...forget trying to do a decent install of virtually anything. and I don't think LMMS worked on the n900 at all.. too many problems.. But I could be mistaken... shame about Jesusonic though... THAT ...as simple and archaic as it seems ...can do more than all the prefabricated unalterable stuff out there. You can easily create your own effects with jesusonic .. pity... just have to keep using it on laptops instead. and continue with gtkgep on my nxx0's |
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I can't believe how thick headed I can be.
I have been mucking about with containers on UT on my nexus 5 ... trying to work around rt-ep (real time effects processing...rt-ep is easier to write all the time...) and it dawned on me. Leste. Leste should be able to handle rt-ep ...since it is basically straight debian (rather devuan) for arm... meaning as well ....screw the maemo repos and what little there is there in rt-ep to work with... we will have the entirety of the debian arm wing to run... even ...potentially desktop stuff (gotta do a little or a lot to them to make them arm compat ...depending..) meaning ..proper rt-ep progs. technically the n900 may be able to handle some lighter stuff... It can handle gtkgep fine ...I use it all the time.. and it is nice and portable ...for the n900..instead of lugging a laptop around, but I just want the ability to have it all on a handheld.. even create new effects ... for outting from my harps to a handheld and then to either headphones or amp... (crap...for the longest time I wished milkytracker or sunvox on the n900 / n8x0 had rt...too much ...packed in it already I suppose...) but better would be the nexus 5 and its hardware... the 5 could handle more intense stuff.. not containerized...not hamstrung...or limited.. humhumhum hum in fact...once Leste is daily driver ready...even close to daily ... I don't see a reason why a very specific variant of Leste can't be tweaked... a proper low latency variant, meant specifically for music work. Low Latency Leste (:D) I don't think a mobile os (rather the kernel) has ever been deliberately altered for that specific desire... since the mobile os idea is to offer speed to running apps...lightning fast, to cater to the impatience of a modern audience, and low latency is purely about focus on making sure input sound is routed through desired processing to be then delivered out the other end with little to no noticeable lag in time...ie- struck note=processed=altered sound exiting as fast as it is created. Of course most other processes are given a short leash while doing such rt-ep sound work... but who the hell is able to facebook text or tweet at the same time as focus on playing harp, guitar or whatever is being played? I could care less about running apps while I am focused on the most important one ...delivering good sound to me. Leste opens up a whole new and different can of monkeys ... I will have to track down and talk to some folks come the new year.. |
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I have been doing some homework...specifically n900 in mind..
#1 -looking into tweaking gtkgep ... https://images.sftcdn.net/images/t_a...screenshot.jpg ...so the interface is easier on the eye on the n900, and seeing if setting up new presets is going to be an easy thing, hard or impossible. #2 -I would prefer something like the old jesusonic ... http://tilde.club/~spowers/img/jesusonic.png , that is by default, built so one can easily write one's own effects...making it a VERY versatile option. There being no source of the prog, I have hunted . only a tar ...doesn't help though. BUT it may work on the n900 under specific circumstances ...* #3 -took a run through on the new open sauce implementation of jesusonic for linux... JSUSFX... So there IS a linux variant of jesusonic kinda sorta (https://github.com/asb2m10/jsusfx) https://camo.githubusercontent.com/0...592f302e6a7067 which is pretty freakin' cool... check out this demo vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9fOeBecaY and wondering if the n900 could handle it .. and lastly... #4 -revisited and did some digging on ecamegapedal... http://img.brothersoft.com/screensho...250219409.jpeg (which is a hell of a program, I would put in 2nd behind jesusonic for versatility.) it can handle ladspa plugins as well as the 30 presets it has...(I think presets can be written for it as well...) I found a few things that make this a very viable possibility ..for the n900 at least. firstly is there is an armel of it. http://archive.debian.org/debian/poo.../ecamegapedal/ and secondly, primary dep for it is ecasound, which runs well in easy deb from what has been mentioned in one of the threads here. So quite possibly the armel may be suitable or quasi suitable and possibly an armel of ecasound may be doable to make it run under fremantle proper. Failing that, it is possible that since ecasound 2.7.0 already is stated as running fine in easy deb on the n900, and so the primary dep satisfied, then quite likely ecamegapedal will work with little to no problem if installed and run in easy deb on the n900. But it bodes well if ecasound already runs well on the n900, then there is a very real possibility ecamegapedal will as well. And a "maybe" ....that the program could run native-ly on the n900. I forgot to mention Freqtweak which is also a helluva program... enabling real time effects processing by altering the visually outputted audio spectral manipulation of the sound... Wicked cool... http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshot/freqtweak FeqTweak is one of the most likely candidates for the n900 since it is still in the current debian and buntu standard repos... So it may well work pumping it through Leste. * and naturally , again extrapolating on this same tack, it may also be possible for the old (doubtful about the newer JSUSFX) jesusonic tar to install and run fine under Easy Deb. Of course these options are theoretical at this point. :D |
Re: [Request] Guitar Amplification
So...mscion...
here it is simple. You will want a headphone / microphone jack that plugs into your n900 headphone jack... it splits to separate female headphone and microphone ends. like this one ...for example....which are very cheap and plentiful.. https://img.staticbg.com/thumb/large...491f4da847.jpg buy 10 for for under $10 Or spend a few dollars and get a decent one... I would suggest a couple ...always good to have spares. You may want a pair of headphones or ear buds with a good long length of cord to them ...depending on where and how you wish the n900 to sit while playing.. You will want a couple 3.5 mm male to 1/4" female adapter for the mic in ...on the splitter ...so you can plug your guitar or oyster pick up into it. (depending on the types of instrument you enjoy playing..) and possibly the headphone out to an amp if you desired.. Like this one... https://cdn3.volusion.com/cygqn.ryfh...jpg?1381241458 yet again you can find stupidly cheap ones... I would suggest paying the 3 to 5 dollars ...decent versions..decently plated..and grab a couple of them...have some spares. Ebay will get you what you need quick and cheap...and as good a quality as the pennies you wish to spend. All told if you end up paying more than $10 for 2 splitters and 2 adapters ...then you are aiming for decent ones... Now... you are good to go. GTKgep installation is easy ... https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...9&postcount=50 download, install it and run it via terminal ...just typing gtkgep never started it for me... I just type in the longer string of command and it does. Annnnddd Awaaaayyyy You go. You'll have fun with it ....promise. Me... It depends .. I have some stereo pick ups for my harps ...and oyster pick ups too. And either run the pick up through my tuner first ... then out to one of my extra n900s that I have put velcro on the back of... and a square of velcro on either the side or pillar of one of my harps..(depending on the harp...) so it is conveniently close and secure from getting knocked around. And then out to an amp .. or out to my earbuds.. or out to my laptop for more fun...or recording...or whatever...and then out from there yet again to earbuds or an amp... In the end...though ...it enables a lot of good loud light portable fun on the go with the n900 in your hand...that you can enjoy with earbuds...without deafening others... If that is the end goal..of course.. :D |
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