Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

hi
having problem loading uk map - press install , looks like its going to work .but it either sits there saying 0/204 mb or flicks back to the selection screen.
is there a manual method?
thanks

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I'll look into the voice navigation problems. Reading that so many people are having issues I wonder whether there's some regression in Marble.

@rob42: I just tested the UK map, downloads fine here on the N900. For a manual installation, download united_kingdom_motorcar.tar.gz and extract it in /home/user/MyDocs/.local/share/marble/maps/
You can also download and extract it on a different system than the N900, mount it via USB and copy the extracted files over.

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cheers earthwings

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Hi Soppa,

do you remember what you did to fix the ogg issue? Any additional packages to install (or remove)? Which of the extras repositories do you have enabled?

@all: There seems to be a problem with playing mono .ogg files on the N900 now. It's a bit strange because that used to work fine some months/weeks ago. Converting mono .ogg files to stereo ones makes them work in Marble, however. I'll try to find the source of the problem. If I don't find it, I'll make the web converter do a conversion to stereo to work around the problem.

There's an easy way to test if you're affected: Choose "Play a sound" in Marble's routing config dialog. If that works (plays a sound to announce a turn point), but a converted speaker file does not work, you're likely hit by that problem. If playing the sound does not work either, you may be missing the ogg-support package.

Update: Screw the mono vs. stereo theory. Some .ogg files play here, some do not, but I don't see where things go wrong yet.

Update 2: I got it running again. Unfortunately I'm not sure what exactly fixed it. Here's a couple of things to try:

• Try to play one of the .ogg files from the voice in the media player. Not working?
• Make sure ogg-support and decoders-support are installed. Still not working?
• Downgrade ogg-support from the extras-devel version (1.0.7-rc1) to the testing version (1.0.5). Still not working?
• Move /home/user/.gstreamer-0.10 away. Still not working?
• Reinstall all gstreamer0.10 packages

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

I have been running my N900 with extras-testing enabled, I have installed extra -decoders-support and have had no problems with playing voices in Marble. I'm using the TomTom estonian female voice.
Today I made a new test with Marble 1.2 Beta 1 & Monav 0.3. Reinstalled the map (Estonia) and tried it IRL.
Now the guidance was correct, but it only said "turn left(right) after 800 meters" no more. Somewhat it "liked" that 800 meters :D It also seems, that the route recalculation is available, as I intentionally passed the right place and after some messy commands it at last again correctly said "turn right after 800 meters)...

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I downgraded the ogg support to the extras version, like you. However, I still just get the first voice announcement when starting the navigation, turns and other directions are still silent. I'm using the yoda sounds, however I don't think that's really relevant, the problem seems to be elsewhere. Even without the voice navigation this app is great, kudos to the developers.

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I got the voice working finally. install extra-decoders-support and then downgrade ogg-support to v1.0.5

apt-get install --reinstall ogg-support=1.0.5

now i went logically. First made sure converted speaker ogg files were properly played on my laptop then i transferred them to device. Made sure to check them first with media player, once the files were being played properly. I put that speaker in marble and well so far so good. I only got it working like an hr ago, so i'll get back to you with some test runs tomorrow

Speaker i am using is English-Vicki(GB). Hope it keeps on working ~

Testing:Worked better than i thought it would. Still work is needed. But i enjoyed the ride alot after hooking n900 to car speakers. Now all i need is a car dashmount :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

i download region (map tiles) for use in offline mode. Where is this download file kept? + does it get deleted automatically?

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Hi all,

Still trying to get marble working as my everyday sat nav.
I can (I think) get the voice working but it seems to repeat the same instruction and breaks up.
Does anybody have a GB voice that they have converted and works that they could post up so I can download it and try again?

Also, I wondered if I was missing something as I haven't seen the following facilities (maybe they don't exist - yet!)

Direction of travel upwards when navigating (rather than north up all the time)

Auto zoom in when close to an instruction or junction

Auto recalculate route

When I zoom in, the track track is often well off the road, can marble have some sort of 'align to road' option

And finally, will there become a way of downloading the maps for offline use? I know I can download a map for offline routing and can download maps section by section, but I would ideally like to download 'Ireland' for both offline routing and offline map viewing/navigation.

I know there are a lot of asks here, having tried (I think) every sat nav out there on N900, Marble is the closest to being ideal. with these additions, it would replace sygic, ovi maps and any other on the N900 and be just as good in daily use as tomtom or google maps etc.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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it does recalculate routes. Auto zoom-in doesnt work as it should. It barely zooms throughout guidance. Direction north up all the time?? dont understand this point, can u elaborate

Voice Files for Speaker - Vicki
Since this speaker is working for me, i am uploading its files. Unzip and copy the folder to .local/share/marble/audio/speakers/ ; select the speaker from Configure Menu in marble.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/fil...--GB--zip.html

hope it helps

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Hi niqbal, just replied to your pm and noticed the post (so ignore my pm reply!).

thanks for the files, I will try them and report back.

What I meant about noth up or direction up is the ability, when navigating for the route to always point upwards, that way left and right turns are on you left and right.
At the moment the pointer follows the map direction so could be going down the screen if I am travelling South and up the screen if I am travelling North. Does that make sense?

Also, do I need to do anything for the auto-recalculate route to start working or will it do it by itself?

Mike

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now i get it. Yes you are right, but this functionality is missing for now. It doesnt keep the car (or navigator) in the middle of the screen .. this is what i meant by zooming in to road level. This is exactly the functionality i mentioned to earthwings. When guidance mode should start, it should drop down to road level with u in perspective. So map is relative to you. Like u said, when u have to turn left in say 800m u should be able to peek at the map and see which left. Ideally after hearing a beautiful voice telling u to turn left lol

Routes are automatically recalculated and this functionality is solid. Make a route map, and zoom in to see little nodes on route, then u can move nodes to tell it exactly which path u want to take. It will automatically keep rerouting while u change nodes

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Marble 1.1.8 + Offline Routing Daemon 0.3
Feedback as i find my way through Marble

• Home Location/Bookmarks works with Routing dialog but in Goto dialog - they end up taking u around the world somewhere lol (does not work, period)
• Zoom in sufficiently on flat map and it kills the app everytime
• Fullscreen mode is very nice. Two things, a keyboard shorcut OR an icon to toggle between fullscreen mode on/off would be better.
• Tracking Dialog Settings are not saved. This is seriously annoying bug.
• In Routing Dialog drop down menu, Clear Route needs to be added rather than manually kills nodes
• Auto Zoom-in function is a mis-hit. It doesn't work properly. Ideally, it should be at road level all the time but its atleast two to three times zoomed out further back just showing you which highway or road you are on.
• Voice is unpredictable. Its giving correct directions but they are mostly a little too early. Say turn left in a km or so and as soon as i turn on that road, it tells me to Turn Left in 800m. Its working but shouldn't it ideally tell you to turn left when you are actually at the left turn. Once i heard, Bear Left when i was about to turn left and it made me happy. But its a mis-hit for now.
• In Routing Dialog, when a saved route is opened, map should automatically move to show route now. it stays stagnant instead
• Legend -> Hillshading checkbox not available/missing

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Morning
am having a problem with the sounds for this - have download and installed as instructed with oggs and mp3 but still no voice.
also the auto re calculation of a route - if I come a across a diversion marble doesn't recalculate a new route from the change unlike sygic.
have I missed a setting or can this be added.
thanks

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@acrux: 800 meters is the distance at which a voice command is played (unless turn points come up in short distance). I changed the behavior for beta 2, see below.

@Soppa: Hm, that sounds strange. I upgraded ogg-support to the new version 1.1 in testing yesterday, which broke it again for me. Then downgraded, still broken. Then I reinstalled decoders-support (apt-get install --reinstall decoders-support), still broken. Rebooted, waited for tracker to finish indexing (tracker-status reporting 'Idle'). Still nothing. After another reinstall of decoders-support it worked again. It may be related to both decoders-support and ogg-support sometimes hanging during installation (dbus communication errors are reported).

@nipbal: Thanks for the testing. Some bugs are already fixed, see below. The tiles for the OpenStreetMap theme are stored in /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I. Other themes store them in /home/user/MyDocs/.local/share/marble/maps/$planet/$theme. You can delete files there to increase the available space. Automatic housekeeping (which limits the total size of downloaded tiles, deletes oldest) is disabled in Marble currently.

@mmarks: Auto map rotation is not supported at the moment. Auto zooming is there (activated automatically during guidance mode, manually in the Tracking dialog), but could use some tweaking. Map matching is done internally of course, but the track only shows the raw GPS position so far. Guess that's a feature to add in one of the next versions. Downloading country (image) tiles is problematic because of the size needed for higher zoom levels. In my opinion the only sane way to do that is to use vector maps (there's a GSOC project going on at the moment to implement it in Marble).
Routes will automatically be recalculated in guidance mode (left of the four icons on the bottom of the screen).

@rob42: Which version of ogg-support is installed on your N900? "apt-cache policy ogg-support" executed in the terminal tells you, package manager might do as well.
For route recalculation -- is guidance mode enabled? That's the left of the four icons on the bottom of the screen.

@all: I updated the packages on my server to 1.1.85 (1.2 Beta 2). If you installed beta 1, you can upgrade from the X-terminal: apt-get update; apt-get install marble. See here. Remember: This is software with beta quality.

Changes since beta 1:

• Better transport type and upgrade handling in monav configuration. Bike and pedestrian offline routing maps are available for Germany on the server now
• Store the last transport type used and tracking options (auto center, auto zoom) and restore it after a restart of Marble
• Searching in the Go To... dialog can be cancelled, Bookmark selection fixed
• Fix crash at high zoom levels (spherical and flat map projection)
• Filter duplicate results in offline search for overlapping region databases
• Distinguish between announcement and actual turn during voice guidance. Previously each turn type was announced up to 850 meters in advance. Now a second, different voice command (or sound) indicates the turn up to 50 meters in advance.
• Clear action in the Routing dialog

Feedback is (as always) welcome. Enjoy :)

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I don't get the point of keeping beta software out of -devel and -testing. Those repositories exist for the whole purpose of bug testing unstable software.

I for one sit on the -devel repository because I'm willing to bug test and have software break every update.

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You're right, but looking at the download statistics it seems that the majority of users have extras-devel enabled. If I push these betas to extras-devel, several thousand people will install them. I want the more obvious problems to be fixed before doing that.
I guess one of the RCs will go to extras-devel though.

I see your point that this defeats the purpose of extras-devel a bit, but I'd blame it on Nokia for including the (disabled) extras-devel in the default firmware while leaving extras-testing entirely out. IMHO that's where the extras promotion process is broken: For the average user it's easy to use unstable software, but hard to use/test supposedly more stable testing software. This results in a long extras promotion (see extras-testing queue) and too much usage of extras-devel by non-testers.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Actually, extras-devel isn't included by default (enabled or disabled).

If you reflash the N900 and then look at the catalogues in Hildon Application Manager, only Maemo.org's Extras is enabled. Extras-Testing and Extras-Devel aren't even there. FApMan, as far as I know, doesn't add them (disabled or not) either.

Nay, the great flood of end-users to -devel is self-caused by the users themselves. The second part is that the promotion process is sometimes a PITA for users - you can't use your talk.maemo.org sign on to vote, and it's not intuitive to find the voting pages. Plus some devs are lazy, and/or don't commit in the long-term, so they upload something to -devel but don't bother adding an icon and bugtracker link, or whatever other minor bits are needed to promote down to Extras.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Feedback on Marble 1.1.85

• Open Route should take you to the route on map but it stays stagnant.
• GPS icon in Routing Info Box turn blue when on and white when off. If it stays on (blue) and marble is exited and restarted, it makes a gps connection but icon remains white even though gps is locked in.
• Tracking Dialog does not save settings for Show Track. It stays enabled by default.
• Voice worked much better, still quirky but better. It does tell you to turn left or right just before you reach the turn not during or after so thats well done.
• Voice Guidance Icon when clicked should automatically toggle to Fullscreen Mode.
• Icons should be worked on now. It is almost ready and i feel 1.2 beta should include better iconset. Ovi maps do have great icons, don't think you can directly use them in your software but still should give you a good idea of how icons should be laid out. Left transparent panel maybe with gps at top, then voice guidance, then zoom + |||| - then toggle fullscreen icon.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

I disagree. There's no logical reason in my opinion as to why anything completely unrelated to the screen controls should switch full-screen mode on/off.

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i will explain in detail. Question you need to ask yourself is when and why is navigation guidance mode icon pressed? Two fold answer to it.

one when we are done Routing our route, enabled Tracking settings, GPS is locked-in, a certain Zoom-level is set on map, Download Map Tiles in cache done (using offline routing mode), clicked on Offline Mode and now you are all set on your journey from a Source -> Destination; point being all the settings take place prior to navigating and they are very nicely laid out in drop down menu.

two, this mode is used when we are driving or perhaps biking etc i.e. navigating our way. We are on the route now. We have set the controls and now we want marble to take auto-pilot and guide us while we concentrate on the road. By toggling to full-screen it gives a clear, unclustered and bigger map view in range making it easier to peek and know which next turn is coming up. Also forcing a touch to ideally either pull a car on the side or stop biking before making any necessary changes/adjustments to the route.

Lastly, in my last post i mentioned a fullscreen icon which i also told earthwings on irc chat. That would give freedom to use however one feels fit.

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It's not that I can't see your reasoning for the suggestion, it's that I think other things (not forcing one demographics' preferences upon others, mainly) matter slightly more.

I can certainly see your point. However, someone might want to change route mid-drive, or maybe change some settings, or whatever. Alternatively, 'forcing a touch' to ideally pull/stop a car/bike over to make changes/adjustments is a normative claim - I.E. that it's a good thing to force people to do that.

At any rate, I agree with you that that's something that would convenience a bunch of people - however, I do NOT think that it should be the automatic hard-coded thing, that pressing a Voice Guidance Icon should also full-screen the program - it's fine as an option, even as the set-on-by-default behavior, but I think that if implemented, it should be disable-able through some settings menu.

Alternatively, simply having a full-screen button should suffice, honestly.

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it would be counter-productive on my part to force my suggestions. I certainly don't want to come across like that. But there is one thing we both agree upon, a fullscreen icon to toggle between on/off mode. It is not there right now.

when both icons (guidance mode + fullscreen) are available to me on screen, i can click on guidance mode then fullscreen mode and off i go. If i want to make changes, i can click on fullscreen icon to come out of it and make changes mid-way. Not a good idea at all but if someone wants it, why not. Its like google maps on android, it shifts to fullscreen mode and remove the icons too leaving just directions and when you click (hmm i am forgetting was it a click) anyways, those icons reappear and you can make changes.

EDIT: oh also i feel icons in general need work to make marble look and feel better. i do believe it has got the functionality or most of it down (voice guidance is at an early stage for now) just a bit of tweak here and there and 1.2 can come out

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guys, the solution is obvious: have two states stored persistently: the fullscreen state in normal mode and the fullscreen state in guideance mode. So it's still possible to set guidance mode fullscreen by whatever complicated way thru menus or whatever, have only one button for guidance-off in guidance mode, and still get maximum flexibility.
Alternatively you can have a "config visible buttons" thing, just like you can configure your toolbar in any normal KDE program.

Sure there MUST NOT be anything like fullscreen mode for any state hardcoded.

/j

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Yes, the new behaviour is much better and is quite usable already now.
Many thanks for your continuing improvement of Marble :)

Latest ogg-support from extras-testing broke voice guidance here too.
To get it back I did:
1. downgraded ogg-support to 1.0.5
2. reinstalled decoders-support
3. disabled extras-testing repository
4. apt-get autoremove
5. reinstalled decoders-support - bingo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

I filed a bug report now for the ogg-support problems. Let's see where that goes.
We'll also start a contest soon to create new speaker files in various languages. I'll announce that in the next days. I hope to get some nice contributions this way such that we can ship a default voice navigation speaker with 1.2.

Also asked our designers to help out with better icons. Possibly this won't make it until 1.2 though, they're quite busy.

Thanks for the testing btw. Git master already contains some fixes for the issues mentioned above.

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Today we're starting the Voice of Marble contest to collect voice guidance speakers from the community. We're looking for an english speaker to be shipped with the Marble packages. And we're looking for alternative speakers for each language supported by KDE -- at least one each, and that's a lot! Please participate in the contest and spread the word among your friends. The five best contributions will get a cool Marble T-shirt as a little present :)

Interested? Please head over to the Voice of Marble wiki page which contains all the details you need to participate. The deadline for submissions is July 15th. I'm looking forward to your contribution!

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you are overkilling it in my opinion. a simple

should suffice

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I'd like to report one issue I've had on my device as of a couple of updates ago (shortly around the time that the first beta build of Marble with offline routing was put up by earthwings on his server, and it was said that maps with MoNav routing daemon internal routing data would start to roll out soon after):

The Georgia map (the United States state "Georgia", not the country) always reports itself as needing an update every time I launch Marble. I currently have MoNav maps for almost every United States state installed, but this problem existed before, when I had at most a fifth of them (I've been slowly downloading them in alphabetical order, basically, over the span of a couple of weeks).

I've tried pressing the update button, waiting for the map to download, etc, multiple times. I've also tried leaving it alone between relaunches of Marble and/or rebood. I have not so far tested what happens if you "install" the map again over the install interface instead of update it through the update interface, or removing the map and then installing it, or manually deleting the Georgia MoNav map files through command-line, and then trying to install again. I tried briefly looking at the Marble site for info and didn't find any mention of such a bug, but it's quite likely I'm just not finding it.

- Edit -

To be very precise, after I update the map by using the updatUI button, it shows itself as no longer needing an update until I close Marble. But when I open Marble again, the update button for Georgia is clickable again.

I HAVE updated other maps through the this way, and they worked fine. I also believe that once very early on when this issue first appeared, Georgia's map actually updated when using the update UI, so it's not the actual UPDATE that's bugging out, it's Marble reporting that that map needs/has an update. - it just seems that wherever Marble(/MoNav?) stores its maps' update status, the value for Georgia has gotten stuck on 'update available'

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@niqbal: It's the same here -- downgrading ogg-support only brings it back after reinstalling decoders-support twice.

@Mentalist Traceur: Good catch. There was a name clash with the country Georgia, whose map is two days newer. Marble downloaded the american state, but compared its version to the country. I updated the data on the server, it should be resolved now.

@all: Please remember our Voice of Marble contest which started a few days ago. We don't have any female submissions so far, please spread the word! :)

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Wow that was fast. At this moment the update icon is no longer clickable for Georgia on my device, so I'd call that a success. (What's cool is that I haven't even closed Marble, merely been downloading other maps. Nice to see it checks update availability at times other than just start-up. :) )

I'll see if I can get at least one submission with a female voice to you guys soon.

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New "bug" report - I can't install both Georgia the state and Georgia the country MoNav maps at once. I know it probably didn't seem likely that someone would want to have maps of everything, but I'm odd like that. Plus, it's always hypothetically possible someone using the N900's version of Marble (or more likely, Marble for some successor), would need both maps. Anyway, just wanted to report that.

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A female speaker for voice guidance would be very welcome, thanks!

I just updated the asian Georgia map on the server. When you give the installation another try (the american state doesn't need a reinstall, only the asian country), both should work at the same time now.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Marble - Find Your Way and Explore the World
 

Yep. Georgie-the-country installed alongside Gerogia-the-state just fine now. Thank you!

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Marble 1.2 RC 1 (1.1.90) is now available in extras-devel for testing.

Changes compared to Marble 1.1.1:

Features:

• Bookmark Manager (available from the main menu)
• Offline Address Search (available from the Go To.. dialog from the main menu)
• Sharp texture maps
• Tracks can be loaded directly in the Tracking dialog
• Fullscreen mode (available from the map context menu)
• Voice guidance improvements

Performance:

• Texture map rendering is noticable faster
• Opening of very large routes is much faster
• Placemark rendering is faster
• Routing, more specifically guidance mode, is much faster for very large routes
• Guidance mode now uses lazy recentering to save some battery power

Known Issues:

• The N900's main volume settings are ignored in voice guidance. This seems to be a bug in phonon.
• ogg-support from extras-testing and extras-devel breaks voice guidance. Try to avoid that version if possible. If you experience this problem (no playback of voice guidance commands despite a speaker installed and configured), please vote for this bug.

Note that you need to install (or upgrade) monav offline routing maps to get databases for offline address search.

Please report bugs in our bugtracker or here. Happy testing :)

A default english speaker for voice guidance -- the "Voice of Marble" -- will be included in the final packages. Please participate in the contest such that we can offer a wide variety of speakers for download. The speaker files will be released CC By-SA 3.0. We'll offer them not only in Marble's format, but also in TomTom format for usage on such devices. Other applications could also easily use the files.

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Alright, so as the resdient only-person-who'd-ever-think-it's-a-good-idea-to-install-offline-routing-maps-for-the-whole-world, I can confirm that cramming your N900 with hundreds of different routing maps isn't the most optimal thing to do for performance (more so than it probably has to be). Now, I haven't tested actual routing much yet (was very glad to see the new version in the Devel repos though, with offline address search as I understand it) but the more I've installed the more abysmally slow Marble's MoNav configure menu has gotten. (Marble itself is a bit more memory intensive now but isn't actually slow yet, at least for map display - I haven't tested routing in a while.)

Now, that's obviously logically sound - it has more files to check/verify for map updates, etc. However, it is insanely memory hog-ish - to the point where with Marble running by itself (not actively installing a map, just on the MoNav configuration menu, usually after having installed a new map), causes out-of-memory errors - I.E. you go to launch Conversations and it tells you there's not enough memory and you should close some applications (I've only ever had this happen when I turned swap off once), and doesn't launch conversations.

This leads me to believe that Marble/MoNav keeps more data than necessary cached at once when checking for updates and/or installing maps (the entire map list, with all the versions/relevant data?). Wouldn't it be possible to load part of the map list, check it against the server, keep in memory only the data for maps that need updating, and then free the memory of the rest of that part of the map list, then load the next part, etc?

I'm going to keep reporting my experiences here - while this isn't a common use-case, I think me installing every single MoNav routing map on my N900 would be useful for seeing how Marble handles that extreme of things.

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I,m totally impressed by marble maps. The first time i've downloaded this application it was in a beta state and I thought what crap. It,s is slow like hell and there is nothing special on it. Yesterday i installed it again and I was really amazed what happend since the last time. It became a fantastic application and is now definitly the best map application on the N900. I would like to support you. But because i have no programming abilities the only way to do this is tol donate. Please tell me how to.

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Hmmm, actually, I just went through an interesting experience: Yesterday I found two "blank" maps in my MoNav configuration list. They had the date set as 01/01. Pressing the delete button didn't delete them (the "Are you sure you want to delete this map" or whatever question box popped up, but that's it). I didn't mention it in the above post, because the general issue - increased slowness and the like happened before that, AND I wanted to see if I could dig up the source of the issue myself before bothering you (earthwings and the rest of Marble's devs).

So I did some digging in the Marble MoNav routing folders directory: /home/user/MyDocs/.local/share/marble/maps/earth/monav/...

Turned out some of my maps had missing pieces. Namely europe/russia had almost nothing in its directory (I had installed the Russia map from the Asia continent first, but there's no Russia map in the asia directory - the same is the case with Turkey - I presume you have only one map for Russia and Turkey on the server, and both Asia>Russia/Turkey and Europe>Russia/Turkey point to the same map?), and England and Scotland were missing the "marble.kml" file.

When I deleted the europe/scotland and europe/england directories, they two "blank" maps in the MoNav configuration list disappeared, so between that and the contents of marble.kml files in some of the other directories, I presume said file handles map .tar.gz archive name, and somehow that has to do with its displayed name and date-uploaded, as well as the "transport type" of a map (Motorcar and/or whatever other types will eventually be enabled). I also reinstalled the Russia map from Europe>Russia, which put all the files in the Russian map's directory that the other directories have - but I don't know if the initial Asia>Russia download just glitched, or if it actually has different data in that download.

At any rate, after I got rid of those two folders (Scotland + England), I actually got SOME increase in MoNav configuration list load speed. It's not as badly slow on initial open now - although the download and install speeds are still noticeably slower than they were when the amount of routing maps was a lot less. And there's still "not enough memory" complaints from the N900 when you try to launch something like Conversations (though it seems to be able to launch it when a new message comes in, so I THINK it's really the OS being overprotective.).

Actually, regarding Scotland/England - are those maps supposed to be there, or does the Great Britain map include everything that Scotland/England includes?

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ya latest update to 1.1.9 gave me couple of headaches too. i had to clean install and install new offline maps for it to work properly. It might be due to some changes at marble maps server

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Well, for me the latest update didn't require any updates of MoNav navigation maps. Might be because I've been downloading maps quasi-non-stop (I'm almost done. Just gotta finish off Oceania [I'm on the Ps] and then cap it off with Antarctica) for a few weeks now, when I get the time to do so, so it's possible my maps were already up to date.

(My N900-derived productivity nose-dived as a result this last week, as the slowness during install increased.)

This was before and independent of any specific Marble version, too.