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guylhem 2011-10-04 20:23

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
FYI, I had a android phone, got a n900 as a geek toy, and it replaced my android as my "production" cell phone.

That's in oct 2011, and I don't care about what nokia may or may not do.

I knew the n900 but feared it would not perform well as a phone. with maemo it rocks.

Finn 2011-10-06 17:10

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
thanks again for all the interesting comments .. Im still looking for a n900 , since IM in Argentina.. I mostly buy from ebay ( I have paypal) .. sadly there almost 99 % of new phones(n900) are from hong kong :P ,.. and Im a little afraid to buy a new from there .. ( some frineds bought htc like new and tehy were refurbished whit a new exterior case only :P)
anyway still lurking for a used one ..
by the way if anyone here knows a place were I can buy cell phone using paypal if anyone have a tip .. I would be awesome .
also I want to ask.. what was in your opinion the major issue or - point s about the n900 ? ..

best regards to all
Vladimir

Laughing_Man 2011-10-07 01:05

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finn (Post 1104222)
thanks again for all the interesting comments .. Im still looking for a n900 , since IM in Argentina.. I mostly buy from ebay ( I have paypal) .. sadly there almost 99 % of new phones(n900) are from hong kong :P ,.. and Im a little afraid to buy a new from there .. ( some frineds bought htc like new and tehy were refurbished whit a new exterior case only :P)
anyway still lurking for a used one ..
by the way if anyone here knows a place were I can buy cell phone using paypal if anyone have a tip .. I would be awesome .
also I want to ask.. what was in your opinion the major issue or - point s about the n900 ? ..

best regards to all
Vladimir

I can sell you my used one.

jann 2011-10-11 10:49

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I'm interested in the post above.

i've been trying to looking for one too. i live in Canada and there is not a whole lot of listing for it.

I tried ebay also and find the person from hongkong by the name cellphoneforever and seems like it is the most affordable. he has a lot of positive feedback. however when i look at the picture he has a white box meanwhile on youtube i find videos of unboxing were black boxes.

i don't want to end up with a n900 fake lol
like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t27QMN5AH2c

panjgoori 2011-10-17 18:24

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
i have bought my N900 two weaks ago and im very happy with it. Installed nitdroid in it and now it rocks. playing game in Nitdroid is fun and also installed WebOs games in maemo. Loving my N900 alot.

Arrancamos 2011-10-17 23:51

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
you could find some at www.mercadolibre.com.pe

kohrime 2011-11-02 07:36

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Sorry for replying late ^^;; I just got reminded about this again now that it's the month of my birthday. Hopefully, on my next 2 salaries, I will have enough to buy this phone I'm surely going to love. Linux FTW! X3b

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuxsavvy (Post 1101605)
kohrime: I didn't know you had a question about what I said for meego (harmattan) based device. Both N950 and N9 will have virtual keyboard as N900 did. I was told by a few lucky developers who managed to get their hands on N950 that the virtual keyboard (on screen based) is so much more nicer than that of on N900. A few claimed that it was so nice they even forgot N950 had a physical keyboard.

Unfortunately N9 will not have a physical keyboard, unlike N950 and N900 both have physical keyboard which slides out underneath from the screen the N9 will just be like a one piece type of device.

The only reason why I say its unfortuate N9 won't have a physical keyboard is that in case if one installs beta software and the software makes the virtual keyboard not appear, you are pretty much stuck not being able to enter in words (which means chatting for instance will be a no-no). In the case of N900 it was fairly easy to lose the virtual keyboard when one installs international input such as mscim.

Without a physical keyboard on N9, it would probably leave keyboard warriors (like myself) having to fork out extra money to buy a bluetooth keyboard, to carry that extra bluetooth keyboard around and hope the bluetooth keyboard works well with the device.

I didn't thought of that - bluetooth keyboard. I'll probably wait until Nokia N9 prices drop dramatically. Probably will wait a year or so - since I'll be buying N900 soon X3

tuxsavvy 2011-11-02 08:07

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I don't know whether will N9 drop prices or not in terms of buying it brand new will be a viable option from Elop's viewpoint. Elop is fixated on the idea of pricing N9 in a way that it makes people ponder if N9 is actually a good device or not. Probably also the sales gained from selling N9 will either be used to pay off any losses nokia has had along with fueling for more windows developers for their upcoming mango devices.

bocephus 2011-11-02 08:18

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuxsavvy (Post 1101605)
I was told by a few lucky developers who managed to get their hands on N950 that the virtual keyboard (on screen based) is so much more nicer than that of on N900. A few claimed that it was so nice they even forgot N950 had a physical keyboard.

This may be both off-topic and a stupid question, but couldn't the MeeGo virtual keyboard be backported to Maemo with a few tweaks?

billranton 2011-11-02 09:27

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bocephus (Post 1117226)
This may be both off-topic and a stupid question, but couldn't the MeeGo virtual keyboard be backported to Maemo with a few tweaks?

The N9 kbd is well designed, but the main reason for me why it's so much better than the N900 one is that the capacitive touchscreen only requires a tap rather than a harder press on the resistive. That makes it much easier to type quickly.

xPAKxMaster 2011-11-03 04:01

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jann (Post 1107004)
I tried ebay also and find the person from hongkong by the name cellphoneforever and seems like it is the most affordable. he has a lot of positive feedback. however when i look at the picture he has a white box meanwhile on youtube i find videos of unboxing were black boxes.

i don't want to end up with a n900 fake lol

Hey jann and the rest of the community I'm back :P well I finally got an n900 after years of looking for a good deal.

cellphoneforever is a coff coff half-scam
I bought mine from them

it's a real Nokia n900 but it is Not new, I had a huge fight with them because they don't understand the illegality of the sale...

To sum it up my n900 came and I concluded:
-illegally refurbished
-various parts of the phone were replaced (screen, back etc)
-in the batt compartment chinese stickers cover the nokia warranty ones
-also in there they replaced the phone's manufacturing and imei number sticker with a fake one(found that out when ddl the firmware)
-The chinese workers were smart in theory but forgot that this is no regular phone and no matter how hard they tried, they didn't know how to flash it.. so it came with lots of info on the previous owner which was from the uk, like gps coordinates, facebook logins, etc,,,

apart from that, the tablet is fine and works great after a simple flash and it feels and looks just like new not bad for 144 euros

ps: warning even though their feedback looks good to you, it isn't, 98% positive is terrible for ebay and their scams show that when you look deeper you see that they have way too many negative per month and if you search for n900 in the feedback you find stuff "refurbished with marks NOT new. Broken pieces on back, FAKE battery. Beware!!" but hey i was lucky and I'm happy considering I was stupid not to look it up at the time...

Hope it helps,
if you can buy it from someone more trustworthy like someone here or try ebay from european sellers, they always forget to mention international shipping, so ask them even if they say the only ship within their country, a lot of times they respond with a yes and some of them even sell it directly to you ;)

bingomion 2011-11-03 09:12

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
yer I bought two of these lol
One is great the other OK but all good for $250AUD each.. still newish.
So not complaining.. I still haven't given feed back.

Trcx528 2011-11-30 20:12

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Sorry for bumping a semi old (3 week old thread to be exact) but would you all still recommend buying an n900? I'm a big linux fan and know my way around the CLI pretty well. Really into hacking (pentesting) I'm a white hat (mostly) and the most attractive thing about this phone/MID is the monitor mode and packet injection. I love the idea of having root access to this phone so trivially, but still am not quite sure...is there an updated version of the n900 that will be coming out in the next couple months? Or is there another mobile device with the same capabilities/tools available? Just trying to evaluate the wisdom of purchasing the n900. Thanks In Advance!

vi_ 2011-11-30 20:51

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trcx528 (Post 1131265)
Sorry for bumping a semi old (3 week old thread to be exact) but would you all still recommend buying an n900? I'm a big linux fan and know my way around the CLI pretty well. Really into hacking (pentesting) I'm a white hat (mostly) and the most attractive thing about this phone/MID is the monitor mode and packet injection. I love the idea of having root access to this phone so trivially, but still am not quite sure...is there an updated version of the n900 that will be coming out in the next couple months? Or is there another mobile device with the same capabilities/tools available? Just trying to evaluate the wisdom of purchasing the n900. Thanks In Advance!

Lol, it is what it is. There is no updated version and there never will be. The N900 is a freak device the likes of which will never roll around again, one of gods own prototypes-too weird to live, too rare to die.

As a 'smart phone with appz' it is ****. As a mobile phone, it is ok. As a pocket linux computer, it is unparalleled.

You want haxing? You have access too debian's entire repo of stuff plus a complete tool chain. 'nuff said.

You want whatsapp, fruit ninja and spyware? You best look elsewhere me bucko.

Copernicus 2011-11-30 20:55

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trcx528 (Post 1131265)
Really into hacking (pentesting) I'm a white hat (mostly) and the most attractive thing about this phone/MID is the monitor mode and packet injection. I love the idea of having root access to this phone so trivially, but still am not quite sure...

Actually, if you're mostly interested in hacking, I think pretty much any of the phones out there would be the same for you. There is probably a bigger community of iPhone jailbreakers than there is of Maemo/Meego coders at this point, and you can get hacking support for just about anything.

The beauty of the N900 is that you can do real Linux coding on it, with full support from the official native OS. And with the large investment in Qt support, it is quite easy to support desktop and phone versions of a program from essentially the same codebase, including GUI support.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trcx528 (Post 1131265)
is there an updated version of the n900 that will be coming out in the next couple months?

Nokia has released the N9, which runs Meego; it has a faster processor and more RAM, but lacks a hardware keyboard. Unfortunately, the official line from Nokia is that the N9 is the last of the Maemo/Meego line, and they are switching to Windows Phone OS for their top-line smartphones from now on.

In short, if you want an N900, get it soon -- they aren't being made any more, and nothing quite like it is going to appear for some time, if ever...

Trcx528 2011-11-30 21:11

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1131282)
The N900 is a freak device the likes of which will never roll around again, one of gods own prototypes-too weird to live, too rare to die.

It certainly would seems that way. Almost all the people I know with the n900 love it unwavering, but anyone who doesn't know the potential laughs at it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1131283)
There is probably a bigger community of iPhone jailbreakers than there is of Maemo/Meego coders at this point, and you can get hacking support for just about anything.

It's funny that you should mention the iPhone as that's the community that I am coming from, actually I run one of the few actual iHacking forums....The problem that I'm having with the iPhone though is just how closed it is. There is no way to add in custom drivers for monitor mode/packet injection with out recompiling the kernel which would be a major pain in the *** due to all the damn codesigning and **** like that. Android is not much better, they have the advantage of a true linux kernel, but are so fragmented that there isn't much hacking support from what I can see...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1131283)
The beauty of the N900 is that you can do real Linux coding on it, with full support from the official native OS. And with the large investment in Qt support, it is quite easy to support desktop and phone versions of a program from essentially the same codebase, including GUI support.

Nice! Ever sense I started getting into hacking I've been playing with linux, and am always looking for a chance to learn...are there good docs on all the API hooks and what not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1131283)
Nokia has released the N9, which runs Meego; it has a faster processor and more RAM, but lacks a hardware keyboard. Unfortunately, the official line from Nokia is that the N9 is the last of the Maemo/Meego line, and they are switching to Windows Phone OS for their top-line smartphones from now on.

Damn, I hate windows phone (I think just because it's and M$ product). Does the N9 have as much available for it as the N900 as far as packages, or did the community never really take off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1131283)
In short, if you want an N900, get it soon -- they aren't being made any more, and nothing quite like it is going to appear for some time, if ever...

I really am considering getting it....I found a pretty good deal that on it, and just wanted to make sure that I wasn't make a completely stupid decision. Also glad to see that the forum is still relatively alive and that response time is measured in minutes, not days.


Thanks for the input! I'm going to do a little more research, but seriously think I am going to go for it.

vi_ 2011-11-30 21:48

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
The N9 is an abortion. It has completely alienated the long time fans of the NIT line. It has all the negative aspects of the n900 (**** support, no interest) coupled with the fact the only people left to give a damn about it, nokia **** all over (linux community). Only an idiot would want an n9.

Trcx528 2011-11-30 21:54

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Good to know. Just purchased a new N900 on amazon, I have to say even though it's a dying platform the community here still looks amazing. Should be here in a week or two, can't wait to start playing with it.

BigBadGuber! 2011-11-30 22:00

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
You made the right choice. Nothing beats N900. The best phone ever. Period. N9 is a miscarriage. An iphone wanna be

Copernicus 2011-11-30 22:03

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trcx528 (Post 1131290)
Nice! Ever sense I started getting into hacking I've been playing with linux, and am always looking for a chance to learn...are there good docs on all the API hooks and what not?

Oh, I can do far better than that: just go grab the actual Qt SDK itself. The thing is completely free, has tons of documentation, provides a full GUI-based edit-compile-test environment, and runs on Linux, OS X, and Windows. Simulators for the N900, N9, and various Symbian phones are available, so you can test your code out before you push it onto the phone itself.

It makes coding for the phone quite easy. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trcx528 (Post 1131290)
Does the N9 have as much available for it as the N900 as far as packages, or did the community never really take off?

As the N9 has only been out a few months, it's kinda unfair to compare software support to the N900 just yet. But, as it is essentially an orphan product right from the get-go, I don't think "app support" is ever going to be very good for it. It is Linux, though, so most of stuff I'm interested in is already there. :)

I don't have the same kind of negative view of the N9 as vi_ and BigBad, but I do kinda prefer the overall design of the N900 over the N9. :) Plus the N9 is ridiculously expensive right now. I'd still go for the N900. (I'm planning on getting a second one once I've got enough spare cash lying around...)

anthonie 2011-12-01 00:55

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Just got my second one last week, a second hand, but hardly used N900, sweet as pie. It's in much, much better condition than my first one and I feel it's worth every euro of the 175 that I paid for it.

sondjata 2011-12-01 02:44

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
if you can get it cheap sure. There are better "phones" out there but there are not better "tablet computers". It's the latter that has most of the people here happy.

qorax 2011-12-10 19:55

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Why the N9?

Look @ this video:
Nokia N9, Super-Smartphone - Full Presentation with all Slides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1weKR...eature=related

Qorax

ArnimS 2012-02-07 11:27

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xPAKxMaster (Post 1117612)
Hey jann and the rest of the community I'm back :P well I finally got an n900 after years of looking for a good deal.

cellphoneforever is a coff coff half-scam
I bought mine from them

it's a real Nokia n900

Wish I had seen this earlier - ordered a N900 from them and it never arrived with lots of email 'yes please be patient' etc. Their ebay account has disappeared and paypal refuses to open a case after 45 days. Their registered company was from a chinese one that went defunct years earlier.

Caveat Emptor!

That being said, i just picked up two used N900s and am LOVING being back! The CSSU is tremendous - the screen is now uber-responsive. Idle current draw with cssu is ~19mA which is more than my best values of ~5mA. Will post to the CSSU discussion if i get it working.

Cheers to the awesomest community ever around a handheld OS. I mean that.

jperez2009 2012-02-07 12:39

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Holy Necro Batman!

However, I'd buy another N900 if mine should bite the dust. Love it. I may not use it 24/7 like some do, but I use it at leats once a day, even if it's just for texting/IM'ing, phone calls or gaming.

sixwheeledbeast 2012-02-07 12:44

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 1131401)
if you can get it cheap sure. There are better "phones" out there but there are not better "tablet computers". It's the latter that has most of the people here happy.

It's the combination of both "phone" and "tablet" that makes me happy.

jperez2009 2012-02-07 12:54

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1161649)
It's the combination of both "phone" and "tablet" that makes me happy.

Agreed. To me, it's a "mini-computer that's also a phone", more emphasis on the fact it's a handheld PC running a full Linux OS (not a watered down version) than the phone aspect. It may not be the best "phone" out there, but it's certainly a small form factor PC that won my heart.

Will try to always have this device, unless the N950 ever gets released (never gonna happen?) and is just as good/better than my N900, which at this point is doubtful.

zeebra 2012-02-09 18:36

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I bought two N900 summer 2011. I dont regret it a second. I will try to stretch my phone budget if I can to buy two more since this is possibly the last of Nokias good telephones ever, since they sold out to Microsoft.

Have confidence that even if Maemo "stops", which it basically never will until all n900 owner have lost their phones, you can still develop for the N900 yourself.

I will stick with this phone until GSM/3g is no longer possible to use, from then on it will be A tablet only, for using on 80211.

I dream about the N950 with a stylus and Grub to multiboot betwen Meego and Maemo.

go for it!

blumma 2012-02-09 21:15

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I've bought a N900 three days ago.

Its a very Good device with a very good working Hardware Keyboard.

I like maemo also as a different Kind of operating System ( i'm iOS User gg )

But my biggest Problem is the resistive touchscreen. Because of that i think of sell my n900 again. Because its a very Big Problem for me to work with a resistive TS

zeebra 2012-02-09 21:49

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
why is that a problem? I have to say, one of the best features of the N900 is the stylus! No precision like it with anything else inckuding iphone and galaxy where you can oonly use fingers. and I do wonder what kind of shitty phones that do not work with gloves on.
N900 works with gloves, no need to buy special idiot gloves just to be able to be in cold temperature and use the damn thing.

capacitive screen is quite ovverrated and a misstep. for some things it is good, but who the heck cares about twitching(or whatever its called) with two fingers to zoom.

the only thing I miss on the N900 that I think is a capacity of capacitive screens is swype, like on samsumg. I could be wrong, it could be possible to have that on N900.

zeebra 2012-02-09 21:51

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
try Amazon. ebay is garbage and scams.

mrk88 2012-02-12 02:06

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
You can buy a new nokia n900 from sears :)

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...1&blockType=G1

They're legit, right :)?

devian 2012-02-12 04:53

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I just bought mine a couple of months ago, I'm a Debian user, and I just love this device, I can ssh'd to it (run my Debian apps on it http://tinyurl.com/6qf593s ;D) installed cssu. powerkernel, and some other hacks, right now I'm trying to sync it with ownCloud using syncevolution, is giving me a little trouble, but I'm learning a lot :D

panjgoori 2012-08-17 18:18

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
i sold my N900 to my friend about 2 months ago and bought a android device. Android has nothing except apps and games. Multi-tasking is the biggest problem in Android. Now im planning to buy another N900. is its good to buy it now as im watching this community discussions are mostly on N9 and N9 apps.

Should i buy a N900 ? I have used N900 for about 1 year.

harry_e20000 2012-08-17 19:02

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
@pangjoori.....the n900 is worth buy now or even next year..I am yet to see a phone that gives the fluidity as the n900...It is just so unfortunate nokia didnt continue supporting it...U r right about android having lots of appz and games which is a short-coming to the n900 but thanks to d nitdroid project we could get some of these appz and games...I just finished cutting a song with mp3 cutter and ringtone makier using nitdroid..Cant see maself using another phone for atleast till I see a better replacement...thanks to d xommunity

ste-phan 2012-08-17 19:08

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1253043)
Should i buy a N900 ? I have used N900 for about 1 year.

You must have a really sneaky friend there or must have been on a very tight budget to sell an N900 just for testing Android.

Of course you should buy one. I bought one myself today.

70 USD including original charger, cables, manual and a second N900 in parts. Lousy maintained but functionall device at a correct price so I don't need sell my sister to finance it. :cool:

panjgoori 2012-08-18 00:08

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
thanks ste-phen and harry_e20000 for your reply. Im getting a N900 well maintained with all accessories including box except AV cable for about 150$. i was thinking about buying it.

ssd1965 2012-08-19 02:27

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Paid equivalent of approx. $USD 85 on Ebay (Sweden). Worth every penny. Followed this 2009 Maemo thread - worked well - love the SIP capabilities. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36098

Joseph9560 2012-08-23 04:55

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
The worst thing about N900 is its slow hardware, start an app and it will take few seconds before it really shows its window. Browser is even slow, those new androids loads pages so fast! I seriously don't miss many applications, offline navigation is among the biggest problem (except if you already bought sygic mobile maps about a year back).

However after two months, I will probably get a new android from At&T, not sure if I can live with android but it should be okay. I am not selling my N900 anytime sooner though.

IgorBarbosa 2012-08-23 14:12

Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
i love this phone, it is so powerful ( still powerful! )

i mean, imo this is the best phone nokia holds ... i dont like the lumias, they are very limited, n900 has many things to to, i love it!

i wish i had 1k usd to buy a n950 ...

well, sorry if i wrote sumthing wrong, but i rly love the n900 ...

:)


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