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Joseph.skb 2011-02-22 23:10

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Anjin: well, for bringing up your question here (Maemo forum), you'll probably get 80-90% positive response to get the N900. Because the members here are actual users of the device, and have experienced with it. Ask anywhere else you'll get feedback based on word of mouth marketing, or from those who don't know the difference between any other phones except iPhones.

What I want to say is, to get a good recommendation, just ask what is it you expect from the device, and comparing with what. The experts here will be able to explain to you your concerns. Then finally you make the decision to buy the N900 or not.

danramos 2011-02-22 23:19

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Or, more importantly, you could ask whether Nokia's N900 is the thing to buy.. NOW. For how long will it be supported by Nokia? How is the support now? Try calling Nokia's support line to see how easily they satisfy customers (my unit is damaged, do you cover repairs? How? How long will I be without my device? Will it gets fixed or just replaced? Can I buy a new part? (pick a part--stylus? battery cover? etc.). How open is it, really? Put your paws on competitor's devices so you can compare it to this. Can you even find an N900 to try out?

My opinion? Ultimately, I think you might find that the N900 isn't a particularly good deal anymore. Most people here will disagree because, well.. you're in the Maemo forum. Go ask the Apple or Android people if you should buy one of their devices. Of COURSE the Maemo will be heavily biased.

Thankfully, I've never been a big fan of limiting my scope so I've always been open to looking toward these platforms with a bias towards what works best for myself.

Joseph.skb 2011-02-23 02:59

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Recommended read to help you make up your mind!

‐ The ultimate smartphone guide
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http://www.t3.com/feature/best-smart...e-buyers-guide

What Nokia says about you:
You don’t like to faff. You’ve always had Nokia and you always will, because it’s reliable, gets the job done and the camera’s usually pretty good too.

paai 2011-02-23 07:42

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I use the N900 for more than a year now, and it is satisfactory. But probably an Android would also meet my demands, if and when it can do things like running a ssh demon for remote login and filetransfer (my Archos 101 has that option although of course it is not a phone).

BTW: the mappero routeplanning has also a voice option. It does not much more than say "take the third exit on the roundabout", but it serves well enough).

Disclaimer: I don't do games or watch movies on the N900.

Paai

danramos 2011-02-23 10:20

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paai (Post 953372)
I use the N900 for more than a year now, and it is satisfactory. But probably an Android would also meet my demands, if and when it can do things like running a ssh demon for remote login and filetransfer (my Archos 101 has that option although of course it is not a phone).

BTW: the mappero routeplanning has also a voice option. It does not much more than say "take the third exit on the roundabout", but it serves well enough).

Disclaimer: I don't do games or watch movies on the N900.

Paai

Congratulations, your wish has been fulfilled.
https://market.android.com/details?i...ilsw.quicksshd
https://market.android.com/search?q=sftp
https://market.android.com/search?q=scp
etc

Also, Google Maps with Navigator can do far more than speak the turn-by-turn navigation. To whit, I present the following presentation:
http://www.google.com/mobile/maps/

Also, you're welcome. :)

nokuser 2011-02-24 02:17

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Get the Nokia N8.

I own both N900 and N8 and found the N8 to be much more userfriendlier in terms of phone use, multimedia use such as Video copy and playback etc. It has all email clients such as MSN, Yahoo, Google, etc. Social network such as Tweeter, Facebood, etc. It also has the best camera with 12 MP on the market. One drawback is it only has on-screen keyboard but to get around it I just plug a full size keyboard+regular PC mouse to the USB connection on my N8. It has USB on the go which means that you can connect pretty much anything as Hard drive, keyboard, game control device, etc. It is very fast and bug free. GPS has voce guidance for free and works better than before. I've owned every Nokia phone since 2000 and find the N8, best Nokia smart phone to date for its reliability, function and versatility.

The N900 on the other hand is more like a PC and it is the best PDA/Phone on the market. It is high end and can also work for your need and some. But I still prefer the N8 because it is much easier to use.

Joseph.skb 2011-02-24 02:26

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokuser (Post 954237)
Get the Nokia N8.

I own both N900 and N8 and found the N8 to be much more userfriendlier in terms of phone use, multimedia use such as Video copy and playback etc. It has all email clients such as MSN, Yahoo, Google, etc. Social network such as Tweeter, Facebood, etc. It also has the best camera with 12 MP on the market. One drawback is it only has on-screen keyboard but to get around it I just plug a full size keyboard+regular PC mouse to the USB connection on my N8. It has USB on the go which means that you can connect pretty much anything as Hard drive, keyboard, game control device, etc. It is very fast and bug free. GPS has voce guidance for free and works better than before. I've owned every Nokia phone since 2000 and find the N8, best Nokia smart phone to date for its reliability, function and versatility.

The N900 on the other hand is more like a PC and it is the best PDA/Phone on the market. It is high end and can also work for your need and some. But I still prefer the N8 because it is much easier to use.

Wait for the E7 if you want a physical keyboard. The E7 looks great and has quite high end specs also.

Tedri Mark 2011-02-24 02:42

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KetkuFIN (Post 951271)
-no one has a charger that fits in N900 if you leave yours home
-i've heard nokia doesn't make these anymore

Buy it, you will love it.

Loads of fones are starting to use micro usb - i can use my gfs blackberry charger, or my friend' s htc charger, of failing that a micro usb cable is very easy to tuck into a bag or pocket...

nokuser 2011-02-24 03:56

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 954240)
Wait for the E7 if you want a physical keyboard. The E7 looks great and has quite high end specs also.

Already used the E7. It s very nice device but E7 has 16 gb internal and No sd slot, external memory only when you connect with USB.

N8 has 16 gb internal+ (my 32 gb) microsd slot + memory connect using USB. I also like the 12Mp camera. The N8 camera is insane. It takes professional quality photos.

Plus 4 inch dispaly on E7???? I used the E7 for week and it was too big for me to carry. Nice device though.

nokuser 2011-02-24 04:01

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedri Mark (Post 954244)
Loads of fones are starting to use micro usb - i can use my gfs blackberry charger, or my friend' s htc charger, of failing that a micro usb cable is very easy to tuck into a bag or pocket...

EU has standardized the Micro USB charging last year. All phones sold in EU must have Micro USb charging capability. This did not stop Nokia to install the round charger port on their newest devices. They also complied by allowing the charge using the usb plug.

Round plug is the best, I can plug it in blind-fold in 2 seconds. USB plug in is somewhat of a task plus after a while the USB port on the phone can begin to have problem.

Joseph.skb 2011-02-24 04:09

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokuser (Post 954278)
Already used the E7. It s very nice device but E7 has 16 gb internal and No sd slot, external memory only when you connect with USB.

N8 has 16 gb internal+ (my 32 gb) microsd slot + memory connect using USB. I also like the 12Mp camera. The N8 camera is insane. It takes professional quality photos.

Plus 4 inch dispaly on E7???? I used the E7 for week and it was too big for me to carry. Nice device though.

Right now I wouldn't mind the E7 if I had to get a phone. The slide out keyboard is still a lot better to use than on-screen keyboards (especially when multitasking). 4" AMOLED with deep black should be a huge plus point (I saw some 3D effect on the C6-01)!

Well, it's not here yet and I'm just making comments based on what I've seen/read on publications.

sinaisix 2011-02-28 14:07

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
You want to buy a phone, buy an Android powered device. Symbian is as good as dead max 18 months from now...

9000 2011-02-28 14:17

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anjin (Post 952512)
Thank your and for the other forum users for your answers. In the first post I tried to explain what I have and what I miss in the device I own. For that I am trying figuring if the n900 could be the right device for me (I think yes at this point of the thread)
I keep having 3 little things in doubts:
1) if the problem I have with a lot of images on the symbian of the x6 it'd be the same on n900.
2) I like the capacitive screen of the x6 (for its strenght and resistance), I don't like his lack of precision but I don't worry to put the mobile in my pocket without a folder (but not with other objects)
3) The lack of support from Nokia, but I hope that with the community it'll be a no problem.

I wondered the same. Any N900 owner could tell you N900 could attend high precision in operation than many other phones with capacitive touchscreens.

I know this was an issue with the fragility of resistive touchscreen on older WM PDAs. However, it's definitely not the case with N900's.

Nokia's support is quite good in my region. I learn here Nokia gives lousy services in US/UK. So we just couldn't help you clarify more here.

Well, you're a man with caution. I think by the time you decide to buy a N900 it's already out-of-stock. :D

anjin 2011-02-28 15:08

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 957343)
I wondered the same. Any N900 owner could tell you N900 could attend high precision in operation than many other phones with capacitive touchscreens.

I know this was an issue with the fragility of resistive touchscreen on older WM PDAs. However, it's definitely not the case with N900's.

I just had a bas experience with touchscreen of my sony th55. Well, to be honest I should use it with a protector but at times I didn't know it, so I had the writing zone (palm os) very scratched. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 957343)
Nokia's support is quite good in my region. I learn here Nokia gives lousy services in US/UK. So we just couldn't help you clarify more here.

Well, you're a man with caution. I think by the time you decide to buy a N900 it's already out-of-stock. :D

Rotfl... ahahaha you're right. Anyway I went to the store past saturday but they didn't have any n900, neither one to show me. So I'll be back there next saturday. (Or maybe one day in this week after job) I Still am very very interested in see and try a n900 in real life.

:)

9000 2011-02-28 16:11

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anjin (Post 957367)
I just had a bas experience with touchscreen of my sony th55. Well, to be honest I should use it with a protector but at times I didn't know it, so I had the writing zone (palm os) very scratched. :(



Rotfl... ahahaha you're right. Anyway I went to the store past saturday but they didn't have any n900, neither one to show me. So I'll be back there next saturday. (Or maybe one day in this week after job) I Still am very very interested in see and try a n900 in real life.

:)

N900 resents the implication of your attempt to compare it with an ancient gadget. :D

anjin 2011-02-28 21:36

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 957417)
N900 resents the implication of your attempt to compare it with an ancient gadget. :D

Eeheh I tried to compare it with a new one, something from the future... :P

rm42 2011-02-28 21:54

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I just did, for the second time. ;)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70460

ericsson 2011-02-28 22:06

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Still no phone? :eek:

anjin 2011-03-01 08:10

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anjin (Post 957367)

Rotfl... ahahaha you're right. Anyway I went to the store past saturday but they didn't have any n900, neither one to show me. So I'll be back there next saturday. (Or maybe one day in this week after job) I Still am very very interested in see and try a n900 in real life.

:)

Yes... still no phone :(

KetkuFIN 2011-03-01 08:27

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Im thinking of buying a second n900 as a backup phone since they don't make these anymore. also i have been thinkin about bying 32gb microSD card and i am little confused about speed classes. is class5 better than class 4? and what speed class it should be on n900?

Joseph.skb 2011-03-01 08:33

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I don't know why resistive screens are so badly reviewed by people. I think the screen on the N900 is pretty good*. Didn't experience much inaccuracies also (except sometimes the media player widget fails on me - but that's not the screen's fault). I think the resistive is really nice to have especially with the stylus so I can take hand written notes and use apps like Mypaint. Try giving your N900 a (little) wax and the screen feels so nice. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70402

*I compared with Nokia C6-01 capacitive Amoled screen responsiveness.

Suurorca 2011-03-01 17:43

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I'm afraid they won't have any in stock, when this one gives up. :(

geneven 2011-03-01 18:00

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I am shocked that some supposedly smart people in this thread can say that the N900 isn't a good deal -- and they don't mention price! Surely price has something to do with it, and the personality of the purchaser must be relevant as well.

I would say that $200 is a good price right now, if you aren't worried about lack of support from Nokia and will take support from the user community.

I personally have hardly ever relied on support from any computer manufacturer. I have often been told outright lies by customer service personnel, which doesn't surprise me since I worked in customer support for years myself and I know what others working in that field are trained to do by the companies that hire them.

KetkuFIN 2011-03-01 18:04

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
i found ONE brand new still in stock for 420€ here in finland. if i had 420€ extra i'd buy it and keep this one too for spare parts. now that i have n900 it's hard to imagine any other phone for me.
Btw. did the person who started this thread buy N900?

Copernicus 2011-03-01 18:34

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KetkuFIN (Post 958253)
i found ONE brand new still in stock for 420€ here in finland.

Huh. Amazon here in the US is selling them for $349 (which, given the sad state of the US dollar, makes it about 250€), and it doesn't look like they'll be running out of stock any time soon. Plus, they're giving away a free 4GB microSD card with each N900 this week...

Anyway, here's a link to the Amazon offer:

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Unl...9004021&sr=8-1

anjin 2011-03-01 18:55

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KetkuFIN (Post 958253)
i found ONE brand new still in stock for 420€ here in finland. if i had 420€ extra i'd buy it and keep this one too for spare parts. now that i have n900 it's hard to imagine any other phone for me.
Btw. did the person who started this thread buy N900?

No, still no. Past we the shop was out of stock, but promised me some for the next week (this one)

KetkuFIN 2011-03-01 19:47

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 958277)
Huh. Amazon here in the US is selling them for $349

What? Cheapest one here is still 419€ and they are out of stock.
I'm going to order one if they ship to finland and if i got some money to spare even if comes with US keyboard layout without Ä's and Ö's.
it will still come much cheaper to buy spare keyboard (with scandinavian layout) and change it...

louiegoat 2011-03-01 21:51

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Just bought another one from J&R Music and Computer World ! I would hate to be without a spare. Lovin my N900 since I purchased it in August 2010 to replace my E71 which I still have. My N900 replaced my laptop and I found myself using my desktop less and less. It was still four and change but no one has them anymore here locally so I took the plunge, ah well, at least I will have another one.

rm42 2011-03-01 22:06

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by louiegoat (Post 958399)
Just bought another one from J&R Music and Computer World ! I would hate to be without a spare. Lovin my N900 since I purchased it in August 2010 to replace my E71 which I still have. My N900 replaced my laptop and I found myself using my desktop less and less. It was still four and change but no one has them anymore here locally so I took the plunge, ah well, at least I will have another one.

Welcome to the "Dual N900 Club". :D

(Is this what it was like with the Amiga?)

hardkorek 2011-03-02 00:11

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
I was playing with first android device (G1) and I was annoyed about it's limitations despite I rooted the device.
Example is you can not save a file that you can not open with default browser or make ad-hoc connection. Then I Installed NITDroid but i was also not impressed.
Also Java makes Android resource hungry. It needs al least 1GHz to work good with some aplications installed. Maemo(with some transitions optimizations) at stock speed runs perfect.

Maemo is far more superior. With Easy Debian you have access to whole repository, so you can get almost any application you want.
Of course there is many great native programs made by members of this forum.
You can always install NITDroid to have some properitary stuff that are not available, like lotus notes etc.

I have N900 for more than year and still I can not find anything better. I don't need super fast processor and more RAM cause everything is optimized for N900 since it is only device with maemo 5. FM transmiter became a thing that I can not do without now.

Only one interesting alternative is palm pre.
Unfortunately I never seen one in Poland so I had no opportunity to play with it.
WebOS seems to be not bad but pre hardware is no so good.

I already convinced two non-tech people to buy N900 and they love it(I did some configurations for them)

You should check stuff like ebay. It is really not so expensive now.

abill_uk 2011-03-02 00:34

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
If anyone wishes to buy the N900 then take a look on ebay as there are so many for sale i lost count, pages and pages and pages full of N900's all at cheap prices.

So anyone wanting to buy can very easily do so but please stop asking stupid questions like " should i buy N900" it is getting rather boring now.

abubakar 2011-03-02 18:46

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anjin (Post 957865)
Yes... still no phone :(

this line just reminded me of all those posts of october/nov/dec 2009 hehe :) .. soo many people here were waiting for their n900s to start shipping :) ..

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...973#post377973

Dead1nside 2011-03-03 17:24

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Noticeably there are alot of used N900s going for around £150, I plumped for £215 for a brand new one though.

So far I'm very intrigued by it, there are lots of great application in the repos already and I've hardly experimented with it. The device does lock up inexplicably (even when doing a top and a pkill), it's usually related to either flash on website or apt-get updating via the application manager.

Flash video is a quite a slideshow, and actually a bit of a massive disappointment considering my N82 had Flash Lite and could, so far, do everything and more regarding flash. Is there a way to choose lower quality flash streams automatically, like on BBC iPlayer?

The hardware is really nice though, and I'm finding the keyboard a life saver. I'm yet to put a screen protector on it (messed it up first time round) so I haven't used the stylus, but I can imagine it's useful too.

JamesBond@ge 2011-03-03 23:17

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
@DeadInside

Where did you get a brand new one for £215?

Dead1nside 2011-03-03 23:41

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 960082)
@DeadInside

Where did you get a brand new one for £215?

Sorry, I should have explicitly said Ebay. Although people's interpretations of brand new on Ebay certainly differs, and I've had bad experiences of buying phones from there too.

Carphone Warehouse do refurb units for £250, you may get a better assured warranty that way. I'll admit that the USB port issue worries me slightly.

JamesBond@ge 2011-03-04 00:12

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Yeah, the USB thing did worry me too. I bought mine in January from Nokia UK store for £339, purely because I was worried about buying second hand. I still worry about the USB plug a bit, but I reckon as long as one is careful when plugging, and particularly unplugging, then it should be ok. I tend to swap batteries over with a spare when needed, so to avoid keep stressing the USB port.

heartbreakdoctor 2011-03-04 01:03

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
my opinion that n900 very good phone,but its old now wait for somthing new maybe n950 or another.

Dead1nside 2011-03-04 01:13

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heartbreakdoctor (Post 960140)
my opinion that n900 very good phone,but its old now wait for somthing new maybe n950 or another.

That's certainly what I thought. I couldn't afford the N900 when it was released and I was looking forward to big plans for MeeGo. However, clearly that is changed now, and it's a whole different type of uncertainty and clearly a long wait. I'm glad I bought now, I think it stands up to the competition, largely, for my needs anyway. More importantly I want to see improvements to the software, and hope to contribute in some way.

vijayv 2011-03-04 05:54

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
N900 is like the watch from spy kids, its a great device but fails even to classify as a good phone. Of every five calls I have to attend I reject one when pulling out of my pocket. Every time it makes me want to throw it away but I cant coz there is nothing comparable in the competitors domain (Sending commands over IR is one good example). In short though I luv my N900, I would never recommend it to anyone , unless Nokia opens up the phone app and let the community fix it. Though I miss voice navigation, caller tunes(there is an app for it but makes the phone app even more laggy), 3G video calling( oh yes gtalk and skype cannot fill that gap) and the ability to do voice dialing all of which was present in Symbian, its not a deal breaker for me.

anjin 2011-03-05 12:45

Re: should I buy a n900 now?
 
update: I found a shop with a second hand n900.
It seems in good conditions, it has only one scratch on the screen (around 1 cm) but I probably I could live with it. It comes with n900, battery, a simple usb cable, and the charger. I think it lacks of original headset, the usb cable with two jack (micros usb and mini nokia?), tv cable, and I don't know what more. All that at 270 euro. What do you guys think? Is it a good price? Do i need some sofware disk for delete everything from old owner and have it like new?

I should go to another shop on Monday where probably have more devices available.


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