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Kabouik

2011-06-29 08:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by feurigel (Post 1041116)

Thank you for reporting.
New .deb-file is available in post #1.
(maemo-devel is in progress).

I hope the update works!

Catorise PLUS only replace the old binaries of catorise and catorisegui. The sorting and categories from these version are not removed. All settings will be kept.

Catorise PLUS will be automatically remove catorise and catorisegui. You don't need manually uninstall there.

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PS: Sorry for my mistake with the 0.6.0 (and 0.6.0-1 ...) version. I tested it, but didn't see the syntax error in postinst file.

Great, thank you for your lightning fast answer! :)

Kevstacey

2011-06-29 09:58

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

is this better than apmefo? thats what ive been using and find it great for tidying up my menus :D

F2thaK

2011-06-29 10:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

can someone else please confirm the latest version in the repos (0.6.0.1) actually works with no errors? I tried 0.0.6-1 and 0.0.6-2 which both did not work. Thanks

edit: version 0.6.0.1 works!!

F2thaK

2011-06-29 10:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

can we get the option to hide app icons? to get rid of clutter?

thanks

feurigel

2011-06-29 10:57

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1041369)

can we get the option to hide app icons? to get rid of clutter?

thanks

to hide in the menu or to filter in Catorise PLUS?

F2thaK

2011-06-29 11:51

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

so they dont show in app menu. if you add a category called "hidden" which we could add apps to, the category is not visible in app menu, therefore app shortcut not shown.. thanks

Jaffa

2011-06-29 12:04

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

The original Catorise supported a _hidden option against which things could be put (as well as _root for the top-level)

F2thaK

2011-06-29 12:19

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

cool, so it should be implemented soon :D

HtheB

2011-06-29 21:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by feurigel (Post 1041267)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1041227)

I installed the 0.6.0, but now there is no "All" category anymore.......

I hope the new update don't remove this (anymore?).
To add the "All"-Category, try this:

1. Create a new category
2. Set "Category Name" to "ai_category_all"
3. Icon is (on default) "app_install_all" in "System-Theme-Directory"
4. "Save"

It should work.

Thanks! It works again! :)

zvogt

2011-06-30 00:47

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Both 0.6.0 and 0.6.0.1 installed fine for me without errors, but something about 0.6.0 really mangled my config. Even uninstalling catoriseplus and installing the original catorise still left my categories really messed up, even after reboot. But I manually removed every catorise-related file and folder I could find on my file system and started from scratch. After doing that and reinstalling 0.6.0.1 my n900 seems happy now.

x-lette

2011-06-30 10:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvogt (Post 1041851)

What exactly did you do? After upgrading to 0.6.0 it broke my menus, upgrading to 0.6.0.1 didn't bring them back and now I tried reinstalling latest 0.5.* but even that didn't bring menu folders back (yes, I rebooted a lot!). All I got now is "all" and "other". what do I have to delete or to deinstall to get my menus back?

ivyking

2011-06-30 11:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

please note that you will lose all your custom menus..

sudo gainroot
apt-get purge catoriseplus
# or apt-get purge catorise since you said you installed it
rm -r /opt/catorise
apt-get install catoriseplus

feurigel

2011-06-30 11:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Sorry for the complication with the 0.6.0 version /:
Next time I'll test it better.

F2thaK

2011-06-30 12:01

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

why? it is in extras-devel.............

feurigel

2011-06-30 12:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1042095)

why? it is in extras-devel.............

Yes, but it's still annoying. ):

x-lette

2011-06-30 12:20

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by feurigel (Post 1042094)

Sorry for the complication with the 0.6.0 version /:
Next time I'll test it better.

No problem, it was just a bit surprising seeing one time all icons without any folder and then all in the only folder "all" and now they're all in folders "all" and "other". I hoped there was some kind of magic when going back to a working version which could re-add all usual folders. I have not yet added an additional folder or moved icons to another folder therefore I thought there should be some system defaults.
But I'm wrong obviously. ;)
And by the way: would be great if you could update the changelog when releasing new version. It's easier to check that changelog when upgrading (at least using fapman) than to visit some website.

x-lette

2011-06-30 12:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivyking (Post 1042066)

Tthanks for that hints. As I don't have customized any menus yet I just want to have those system categories back. Will try it.

feurigel

2011-06-30 12:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 1042106)

And by the way: would be great if you could update the changelog when releasing new version. It's easier to check that changelog when upgrading (at least using fapman) than to visit some website.

I update the changelog (in debian/changelog), but the extras assistant won't update the changelog. I don't know why.

x-lette

2011-06-30 12:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

One suggestion, as I just could have used it ;)
Could you add an option (either to menu or by commandline) to restore system menu and have catorise re-aarange it again, i.e. to begin from scratch, just as it was newly installed? Would make it easier to restore some functional menu as well as to restore from some not-so-clever customizing. A backup of customized menu could be done and maybe an option to restore that one again.

Now I'm just finished restoring the menu by completely uninstalling catoriseplus, removing folder /opt/catorise and installing catoriseplus again. Before installing it, all icons were uncategorized. Is that correct? I thought, in case of uninstallation the system menu should get activated again.

feurigel

2011-06-30 13:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 1042127)

I like the idea and see what I can do.

Kevstacey

2011-06-30 18:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

why not use apmefo? then you can create your own folders and put whatever apps in whatever folder :D

feurigel

2011-06-30 18:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Because we discuss about catorise (plus) and not apmefo (:
And we would like to improve the app. ^^

x-lette

2011-06-30 18:52

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevstacey (Post 1042361)

why not use apmefo? then you can create your own folders and put whatever apps in whatever folder :D

[ ] you know what you're talking about

With catoriseplus you can create own folders and you can put applications to whatever folder you like. But contrary to apmefo this helper is easy to use and way faster. And it works automatically too!

anismistry

2011-06-30 22:24

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

feurigel please confirm, i have version 0.5. something, if i upgrade to the current version 0.6.0.1 is everything alrite with this version or will it mess my menu thanks

feurigel

2011-06-30 22:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

It should work with 0.6.0.1.

But you can backup your files like:

Code:

cp -aR /opt/catorise/share ~

cp -a /opt/catorise/menu ~

and restore like:

Code:

cp -aR ~/share /opt/catorise/

cp -a ~/menu /opt/catorise/

T4UR14N

2011-07-01 00:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

i tried to install this app today thru apt-get in xterm it went about 90% of the way i had catorise installed before it removed tht an then failed after setting up catoriseplus in xterm.

now my problem is FAM is showing me its not installed but it is so i cant remove it how do i fix this ?

x-lette

2011-07-01 11:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

you can try this on command line (as root):
dpkg --configure --pending

Maybe there are leavings from catorise which disturb installation of catoriseplus (shouldn't happen but who knows ...). check if catorise is still marked as installed by typing
dpkg -l | grep catorise
(this is a pipe sign in the middle)
you should see some lines with catoriseplus and maybe catorise. catorise should start with 'rc' if listed at all. If it's marked with 'ii' or sthg else you should uninstall both packages manually by typing
dpkg -r catorise catoriseplus
Afterwards (a reboot would be good at this point) you can install it again, either on commandline or using fapman.

ashwin

2011-07-01 11:27

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

this application used to be a battery drainer....is that problem resolved now..can anyone tell abt this?

feurigel

2011-07-01 12:40

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashwin (Post 1042705)

this application used to be a battery drainer....is that problem resolved now..can anyone tell abt this?

This is a bug in hildon-desktop. You can use CSSU, it fixed the bug.

ashwin

2011-07-01 15:36

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by feurigel (Post 1042749)

This is a bug in hildon-desktop. You can use CSSU, it fixed the bug.

thank you :)

ivyking

2011-07-03 11:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

thanks again for your work !

some suggestions concerning Catorise Gui :

1) this is probably not that important and doesn't affect functionallity or usability, but you may want to fix :

when the user creates a new category, a hildon-style banner shows up telling the user that his category has been created and to click save in order to reload the menu, however the menu still reloads without clicking save.

the user may want to customize the menu and create multiple categories/edit existing ones/re arrange items then reload the menu once he is done.

if hildon automatically reloads the menu once modified, you can circumvent this by creating a new folder some where, create the new directories there, if a user changes a directory make .change file for example describing the changes.

then once the user selects save, move those directory files to the appropriate folder, and apply the changes descried by the .change file, meaning don't actually make any real changes until the user click save, till then keep all changes virtual.

this should prevent redundant reloading of the menu.

2) this is a hard one; you may want to reconsider the arrangement of the UI, instead of having a list of applications with a list box beside each one, you can try a more organised UI, a hildonized alacarte UI perhaps ?
alacarte is coded in python, you may want to take a look.

thanks in advance.

feurigel

2011-07-03 14:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivyking (Post 1043844)

1) this is probably not that important and doesn't affect functionallity or usability, but you may want to fix :

when the user creates a new category, a hildon-style banner shows up telling the user that his category has been created and to click save in order to reload the menu, however the menu still reloads without clicking save.

the user may want to customize the menu and create multiple categories/edit existing ones/re arrange items then reload the menu once he is done.

if hildon automatically reloads the menu once modified, you can circumvent this by creating a new folder some where, create the new directories there, if a user changes a directory make .change file for example describing the changes.

then once the user selects save, move those directory files to the appropriate folder, and apply the changes descried by the .change file, meaning don't actually make any real changes until the user click save, till then keep all changes virtual.

this should prevent redundant reloading of the menu.

I'll try it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivyking (Post 1043844)

2) this is a hard one; you may want to reconsider the arrangement of the UI, instead of having a list of applications with a list box beside each one, you can try a more organised UI, a hildonized alacarte UI perhaps ?
alacarte is coded in python, you may want to take a look.

thanks in advance.

There will not be a same, but it will be "sorted" by categories.

But that will take some time, because I currently do not have much time.

Fellfrosch

2011-07-04 09:56

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

I have a strange problem with catoiseplus:
All went fine until now. It's the first time I installed new apps after the installation of catoriseplus. I can see the new apps in the menu, but i can't find them in catoriseplus. So i'm not able to chose in which category my new apps should go. Any hints?
I've rebooted my devoce already .

feurigel

2011-07-04 13:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1044334)

Really Strange. Oo
What applications were installed?
In which categories are the applications?

Fellfrosch

2011-07-04 13:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Hello feurigel, thanx for your prompt reaction. I've installed Atomic Tanks and handsoff.
Both were in no category.
Meanwhile i purged catorise plus - but I had to delete the catorise folder in opt manually. Afterwards I reinstalled catoriseplus and for the moment the problem is solved and i don't know if the problem will appear again.
Maybe it was because i've renamed every given category?
If it happens again i will tell you.

slender

2011-07-04 13:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Question:
Is there Drag&Drop class/feature/library in maemo UI? It would make apps like these quite easy to use, fast and most importantly intuitive.

F2thaK

2011-07-05 09:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

any chance of the hide option to be added?? thanks

feurigel

2011-07-05 11:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1044977)

any chance of the hide option to be added?? thanks

Is in the ToDo-List. But that will take some time, because I currently do not have much time.

F2thaK

2011-07-05 11:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

awesome! thanks

HtheB

2011-07-17 21:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Catorise PLUS - create your menu like you want

Seems like it doesn't detect the Open Media Player icon.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72156

It shows the icon only in the "All" section.
Any way to get this fixed?

Edit:
After installing any app, catorise automatically refreshed, so it added the Open Media Player icon too.

Maybe add some "refresh" button on the Catorise Plus options?

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