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there will be N9 developer programs once the phone is produced in greater numbers. nfc implementation will have to wait or use simulation until then.

N950 is available now, that's why it's up for developer programs.

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Cmmon... Why even sell phones then? It's just too risky.... Keep the software patents, fire everyone, and no worries at all. Revenue guaranteed.

But seriously, even though there might be a hint of truth in what you said, I don't buy that as the main argument. It's not like Nokia produce a phone and then go to a meeting and say, "You know, maybe this will cannibalise the N9, scratch it off our release list."

Nokia have produced a lot of quality QWERTY phones, and if they wanted (or had any interest) to release a good qwerty N9 they could have done it.

At least they could have offered it for sale with a 10day warranty or something. They would have made a few bucks and a lot less disappointed fans.

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Exactly this happens all the time, in companies all around the world. And Nokia are finally learning to do it too - release less phones, make them more focused, stop trying to cram everything into it. The N950 is one of those casualties.

I can't think of a better argument for why a phone is being produced and sold in small quantities just for developers - it would've made more sense to send out a stripped-back N9 (or hell, just a normal N9 on a lease). It's not like they're gonna be writing code right there on the thumb-board.

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what is this device at 3:24? some protoype I guess, but keyboard looks like imagined n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFAueZefAxk

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N950 with a cover :)

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video of n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8jH_apD2k

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Colours on the Screen look inferior to the N9, n9 looks so much deeper and brighter and less reflection.

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TFT LCD vs AMOLED

to be expected

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I'm wondering if it could be the brightness settings in addition to AMOLED vs TFT, but I hope increasing the brightness on the TFT won't waste too much battery.

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This was supposed to be N9 !!! Not that shiny dildo without HWKB . :mad:

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dang! i want this phone. would it be really that hard for nokia to release it for consumers? too bad i hate the n97 / sidekick 4g sliding mechanism...

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in addition to the video mobilenet.cz has a series of pics as well

http://mobilenet.cz/clanky/bajna-nok...o-a-dojmy-7222

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People from Openmobility were on the unveiling - and there should also be an article + pics tomorrow. :)

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54px

blah blah too short

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What they may do is release the N9 so the die hard people with rush out and buy it then the 1st signs of sales drying up months later release the N950 to get sales going again.

I mean if the phone/tablets are close spec wise, then putting the main board inside a new case with hardware keyboard and a slightly bigger screen and unlock the software so you can develop on it would push sales up again.

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Most people are indifferent of a HWKB so a thinner device is more appealing to them. I remember I was. But this was before my first hwkb phone. After that you never go back. And I have seen very few hwkb owners willing to go back. Some company should evangelize the hwkb+ts and capitalize on it. Touch and type is a good, very good idea, I've been saying it for years. Now somebody should make a kb flagship without a vkb counterpart, and give you other reasons to buy it. Next time you will ask for kb, and before the competitors know it, that somebody will sell you their new kb device.

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a few things I noticed in the n950 video:

icons in app launcher do not re-orient to landscape mode

there is a terminal app there

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I respectfully disagree. I know products get canceled all the time, but my main point was that cannibalism of the N9 had almost nothing to do with it, imo.

Not in step 5 of 5; not at Nokia.

Defective production, maybe. PR move, maybe. Elop move, maybe. Cannibalism of N9, I don't believe so.

You don't produce 90,000+ devices (retail price ~$600+) and can them as an afterthought. Not at that stage for that reason.

And the fact they aren't selling them to anyone period also raises eyebrows.

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N950 Black Developer edition:

s3.gizmovil.com/files/2011/06/Nokia-N950.jpg

It is horrible to know that the n950 is only available for developers. Omg... Look at the pic. If Jesus were alive, he would use that phone!.

Elop should let people buy the N950!!!!!

s3.gizmovil.com/files/2011/06/Nokia-N950.jpg

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But it wasn't the final step - they're pre-production phones built for showing off and developing on. They still had a boatload of work to do before firing up the factories for a full production batch.

If you have the choice of selling 95 000 copies of a newspaper, or 100 000 copies of two similar newspapers split roughly evenly, what are you gonna do? Smart companies don't cannibalise sales of their own devices.

Where did you get that figure from, out of interest?

Not really - Nokia don't want their name on a phone they're not willing to back with a Warranty.

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I even prefer the design of the N950.

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I really want the chance to test typing on the N9. Of course I love my N900 hwkb, but hey, maybe it's not so bad...?

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but you lose SO MUCH screen real estate using a screen kb.

I type out ALOT of long emails on my N900, and I cannot imagine losing so much screen estate in landscape mode for the hwkb. You will have so little room for text when you type out long emails.

the tactile sensation also allows me to type fast with fewer mistakes - my attempts on a software kb have been far slower.

i need the kb for productivity - guess I will have to go droid.

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Did anyone notice this

I dont think that the n950 is for sale it says you need to be a community developer to get one

http://nokia-n900.com/nokia-n9-released-devkit-n950/

From the release notes

http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/...ase_Notes.html

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In the past I just needed to register with my home postal address (in Hong Kong) and Nokia (Finland) would send me full CD of Symbian SDK, Communicator emulator, with an offer to buy developer version of Communicator, periodically when there's update. :)

Anyone knows how to become a N950 developer now? Is first born sacrificing required? :D

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Go to Forum.meego.com

Qgil there has details and a thread for questions

i think basically you have to submit your project or what not, and if they think you are cool enough you get 1

and its a loaner too - its not really yours - i.e. they are only loaning it to you

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Honestly, it looks cheap...i am not impressed. When it slide the keyboard out, it lifted the screen at a ridiculous angle. The keys look like toys to me. Another thing is, it's got NO FM transmitter...which is VERY important to me!! I'll pass...i think my N900 is still better HONESTLY cuz it got features i want. Sure it's more powerful but c'mon, my N900 can overclocked to 1GHz lol. FM transmitter is the real deal....very important.

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Someone in today's main thread guarantees us that the lack of an fm transmitter is not because of hardware but because the code to make it work hasn't been put together yet. I believed him.

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sorry, wrong word. correct word is lended and one must return the unit after lend perioid is over.

e: if I remember correctly, there were rumours concerning the hinge mechanism. it wouldn't make sense to sell small amount of units that can break down from the hinge, responsibilities would probably be much bigger than what they get when selling the devices.

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could the title of this thread be any more original?

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Yea i read it on meego forums, its only a lend.

Understand about the hinge and numbers - not worth the trouble for them.

Wonder how many here WILL purchase it without warranty on ebay if Nokia did not require these devices to be returned ?

oh well - no choice but droid for me since i need a hwkb

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>But it wasn't the final step - they're pre-production phones built for showing off and developing on. They still had a boatload of work to do before firing up the factories for a full production batch.

The MeeGo device was step 5 of 5 of a plan that's been going on for at least 5 years, if not more. And if the numbers are true, 92,000 pre-production units? Maybe, but that seems a bit high.

>If you have the choice of selling 95 000 copies of a newspaper, or 100 000 copies of two similar newspapers split roughly evenly, what are you gonna do? Smart companies don't cannibalise sales of their own devices.

Look at previous Nokia releases. Kbd vs. no kbd, heck even the names are almost the same C6 vs. C6-01 (released a few months apart), or E7 vs. C7 (let's not get carried away with precise examples, this is for illustration purposes). Anyways, my point is this kind of kbd. vs. non-kbd phone at Nokia is quite standard.

>Where did you get that figure from, out of interest?

From the board and the internet. Yeah, I know....

>Not really - Nokia don't want their name on a phone they're not willing to back with a Warranty.[/QUOTE]

I Agree. But that has nothing to do with cannibalism.

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well the great Nokia N950 is alive, and looks usable. but as you already know - just developers edition......I´d like to have one :-)
check this out....

http://mobilenet.cz/clanky/bajna-nok...o-a-dojmy-7222

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There's also another N950 hands-on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AAS97vlOPI

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N950 = fkin awesome uber phone
N9 = gay

:D

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I'd still take my chances and buy the n950 without warranty and flaky hinge. I have plenty of duct tape so no problem if the hinge breaks...

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Actually, they can´t sell it without giving at least a 2 year guarantee in Europe, or 1 year in US.

In the EU if you sell a new product you need to fulfill a two year warranty, whether or not you claim not to provide it.

But they could charge you for access to Nokia launchpad and then give it to you, or lend with with a "wink, wink, nod nod" expectation of you never returning it. Maybe that´s the plan.

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Yeh, I can't imagine nokia wanting it back ;)

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That was just a quote from a guy that doesn't even work for Nokia anymore - and I call bullcrap on that 92 000 figure. Anyway, it doesn't discount the fact that the phone wasn't ready for production and would've cost money to get ready.

Yeh, losing market share at Nokia is quite standard too ;) You can't say something is a good idea just because they've done it before.

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not sure if this has already been posted

http://youtu.be/6U8jH_apD2k