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I have the phone in my hand. I'm clearly a swipoholic now swiping other peoples phones, swiping my monitor, swiping my mirror in the bathroom, WTF am I doing?
Don't mean to take a SWIPE at ya Nokia but WHERE THE **** IS THE FLASH ON THIS PHONE?

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It wasn't just him that misread it. I'm the one that used my cyber-stalker skills to find Jolo. When I clicked on this thread, your reply was the first one I saw. My first thought was "'MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE?".

I was already thinking about how to apologize to Jolo before I scrolled down and read the rest of the replies. Crisis averted. :)

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If people are going to get upset over questions, it's not really worth it then, now is it?

Asking questions should never run off anybody. Now... whining/minging about stuff should be avoided. But questions leading to running folks away?

Wow.

Anyway... let's just hope it all happens. Or if not, then enjoy what's there.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

So, to be or not to be...?

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It won't happen natively. Perhaps if they steal the Android lib then it will happen.

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Why Nokia is this so difficult?

I love the N9's design and UI, I'd love to use the browser, so I don't need "an app for that", and I don't want to be forced to use mobile variants of websites so that I can view video etc...

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They're going the Steve Jobs way of no Flash perhaps?

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Has anyone tried using the 10.1 flash for Fennec in the N9? No hardware acceleration, but the faster processor of the N9 might make it usable? I use it in my N900 (don't mind the jerky video when most of all I want to hear stuff that no longer plays with the native flash even using Tweak Flash). Shouldn't it work in the N9 with its similar processor?

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Why stop with 10.1 when 11.0 is available?

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There's a version of 11 that works on the N900?

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It won't work....
That's the whole point of the license Nokia needs to get from Adobe.
The NPAPI binary will be signed & only for use on Fremantle (maemo5).

I forget exactly how it works now (I once knew, damn my mem), so it may or may not work in Aegis open-mode.
But Aegis open-mode is still a long-way-off being ready for the avg. joe.
But as gerbick hinted we should be focusing our energies on a Nokia delivered/sanctioned 11x.
A 10x "hack" is simply not acceptable...

*UPDATE* 01/11/11
Forget I posted anything, I believe I've misunderstood what jolo was saying.
I removed my latest post as I don't want to get hopes up unnecessarily.
It's just too early to say anything conclusively, it could still go either way.

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Seems like there will not be mobile Flash for any devices in the future: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exc...e_skin;content

So I would assume that this means that there will not be Flash for N9 Fennec.

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Yeah I read that earlier. I'm not sure we can read too much into it though.
I would assume it's referring to anything beyond 11x...
Since 11x was confirmed for a bunch of major platforms & maybe WP a mth or so back.

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According to jolo, the status-quo remains.
Adobe's recent announcements don't affect ongoing assessments on 11x for Harmattan.
An excerpt of our dialogue is below...

So we're back to where things were before...
Which jolo preferred I didn't reiterate publicly, as it was far from conclusive either way.

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aaaargh :p this would be soooo awesome.. the thing is, i'm gonna buy this device either way but if it has flash i think i'll surely keep it, if it doesn't then maybe i won't.

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Any news on Harmattan's certification status?

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Here's my latest convo with jolo (18/01/12 AustEST), situation remains infuriating:

I wish they'd just hurry-up and confirm it's not coming, it'd be better that way.

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lol @ lawyers, maybe if all these damn companies would stop suing each other for a few days they could work out some agreements that actually benefited someone for once.

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How can there be flash on fennec for n9 or other platform when fennec for windows(Desktop) doesn't even have it...

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^ What are you talking about???
Running flash on "Firefox" here (OSX), there's no Fennec for PC's/Macs.
Read back through the thread...
Nokia needs to pay for a signed binary from Adobe, & Mozilla needs to agree.

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to clear up some confusion:

@jalyst
actually, fennec is officially distributed by mozilla for windows, mac os x, and linux, but of course you could always just compile it anyway. its very cool, really.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/
under 'development tools' at the bottom

@immi.shk
what jalyst said is the long and short of it. it doesnt matter at all whether the windows binary of fennec has a flash plugin bundled; it would be surprising anyway.
i think it is unlikely that adobe will do this, though, because they are phasing out mobile flash.

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Oh yeah for dev purposes I could see the usefulness.

jolo's explained that's not really the issue, see earlier in the thread.

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Has anybody tried the .so file from the N900? Some other binaries have worked on my N9 (In fact I am not so sure, but trying to make wordpress work, I managed to reach the splash screen)

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If flash will never work at least they should release the fennec version that they have that should be fast and non-buggy .
p.s: In early N9 demos there was a fennec icon in the app grid

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Some good news for a change. We have finally sorted out the issues with Firefox for the N9 and have Adobe Flash certified. This means we should be able to get these to the Store quite soon. Sorry for the silence on this topic, but it has been a roller-coaster ride for these apps.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

jolo, is flash for N9 standard NPAPI browser plugin? If yes can be used in other browsers (which support plugins)? And will be working also on N900?

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The way that Adobe Certification works is that it gets certified per browser and device, so right now it is just working for Firefox on the N9.

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Dear Jolo, you made my day :)

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Jolo, ballpark, how close are we?

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finally flash on N9? whooooaaaa cool!!!!! :D

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FP10 or FP11 with gpu support?

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greatest news for n9 after official opera browser on n9!

do you work for firefox comapny?

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Awesome news!

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Hallelujah! :D

Thank-you jolo for updating us here as soon as you could, as I asked via twitter.
Sorry for incessantly bugging you & whining, I'm sure the entire process hasn't been easy.

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No he's a Nokia employee.

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the question is would it be built in or flash from FF can be used by other browsers?

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Is this flash with stage video/gpu acceleration? In any case this is awesome news.

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The question is: will this latest implementation eat battery like fennec v13 alpha (from romaxa) does? Like 1% every 2 minutes or even faster :(

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All hail jolo!!! <3 <3 <3