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I don't have a switch engine option

why?

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Crazy crazy, the last item in the menu list is "Close".
microb-* appear in the installed applications list, so I assume we're live...

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I'm sure that's a blindingly obvious bug that will be fixed by the next release, but I voted/commented on it just in case. :)

I also opened bug #1685 as it doesn't seem possible to enter shifted characters using the "sliding upstroke" method on the virtual keyboard.

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Did you reboot your device afterwards? Close and reopen the browser itself after installation?
I didn't do anything special to enable that, it was just "there", but I remember reading somewhere in here (or maemo?) some sort of option to enable that.

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Hmmm.... most odd. Try uninstalling then re-installing microb-browser.

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I don't have the switch engine option either. I have uninstalled, reinstalled, rebooted and taken the battery out and restarted and every combination thereof. I am pretty sure that the new browser is installed (as some pages render differently), I just don't have the option of toggling to the old rendering engine. I am running the most recent firmware and restored my data from previous backup.

Some problems I am noticing:
-map tiles not appearing in google maps
-www.escapepod.org title image only partially loads
-If I have flash turned on, the above page crashes (which was the same with just Opera install).

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my thoughts and discoveries:
*tiddlywiki saving works now when you open the file locally, just like on any other computer! (no more strange backends for saving - yay!) - the only problem is that you get a bunch of mozilla security popups that you can correct with the addition of a user.js in ~/.mozilla/minib/ (err.. can't remember the directory name exactly) - i'll post specific instructions tomorrow! =]

*youtube seems slower now - doesn't seem to play smoothly even after the video's completely loaded =/, BUT with a good mplayer plugin for firefox (i believe one already exists in the x86/x86_64 linux realm) we could just have mplayer do the dirty work for us! =]

*as someone mentioned earlier - google reader works! huzzah! now give me gears / offline sync support and i'll be sold! - or better yet, home page integration so google reader feeds show up there - hopefully this will become a reality as nokia and google seem somewhat close, but as far as i know, gears is only for x86 for now =/

is it just me, or is it ironic that the install page for the browser doesn't render correctly in the original opera maemo browser? =P - and no, i did not take time to read the entire thread, so i apologize in advance for stating the obvious if i did x.x

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I also tried uninstalling etc, then...

Switch engine option found, following instruction from much earlier in this thread I edited /home/user/.browser to make "hidden=true".

Now I have back scrolling with finger drags on Wikipedia pages, thanks to Opera.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Thanks, editing the .browser file worked for me. I wonder why this option appears enabled for some people and not others? Could it be related to having done a restore from backup after upgrading to the new firmware?

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New browser is working great for me, doesn't choke on certain sites that Opera used to. I like the new RSS feed button to quickly add feeds, plus the ability to switch engines is nice also. I have the option in the menu bar, seems like a few of you didn't get that option.

Only thing I noticed was that I had to put my forum logins and passwords again, but no big deal, now they are saved. Even with a few bugs and glitches, Nokia is definitely going the right direction with the new Mozilla browser.

Are we N800 users getting spoiled, or what? It sure has been a very good 10 days or so on the upgrade front. At this rate, we should have A2DP, SlingPlayer, and all the other stuff we've been asking for by the beginning of August :D

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This new browser is great news!
Google can now do much of the missing PIM-stuff. And I remember feeling frustrated that I couldn't open locally stored .htm-files in Opera*, this new browser does that without a problem.

One thing: the "fit to width" option seems to work a bit differently from the Opera-version, it feels a bit more clumsy.


(* disclaimer: my memories turn hazy after a couples of weeks. Maybe it wasn't Operas fault, maybe it was just me not finding out how to do it)

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can i ask for a detailed instructions for this? i'm a total newbie with linux.
thanks

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Yes, I have to admit this is impressive, and more than makes up for the anemic upgrade firmware we got earlier.

However, when I went to the Google Spreadsheets pages, my spreadsheet came up with a black empty void where the spreadsheet was supposed to be. I could run Preview and see my original data, but I didn't see how I could edit it.

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Re Google docs, spreadsheet display does not work correctly. Either new or loaded spreadsheets display black text over a black background... I tried fiddling with "selecting all" and then trying to adjust the text and background colors but I didn't succeed.

Anyone observing this too?

-- Denis

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I didn´t do a restore from backup and had the option to switch. I think you're right.

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Any idea how to use it with our OLD 770?
And without the OS2007 HE?

Thanks, great Job!

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Has anyone figured ut yet how to reconfigure the D-pad in Mozilla? In Opera I edited the input.ini file to set Down = Page Down and Up = Page Up, to let up/down scroll by a page. I've looked around but haven't figured out how to do this with the new browser. Anyone?

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The most noticable issues so far:
- There's a delay before it starts loading the page, like as when I network over GPRS instead of wi-fi.
- Changing zoom level is much slower. This is probably what bothers me most in normal use.
EDIT: - Even more the fact that the on-screen keyboard keeps popping up at all times, even when I have the external BT kbd enabled..

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I had several crashess when changing the zoom level. Page rendered was a large table, no problem with Opera.

BEWARE: The keyboard bug will stay even if you switch back to opera. Even if you uninstall the new browser, the keyboard bug will still remain.

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Snap. Is this a known issue?

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Yes. Google Spreadsheets do the same for me: big black void where the data is supposed to be.

-F

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This might be interesting to look at, but the "Documentation" section is not there... or I am missing something?

https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1175

Posted By: Leonid Zolotarev
Date: 2007-07-18 10:15
Summary: Mozilla based browser for maemo GUADEC 2007 slides published
Project: Maemo Browser

GUADEC 2007 presentation is published. Find it in the "Documentation" section.

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Wow, and whew is all I can say right now and I really can't believe I'm saying this but I've gotten the default (Opera) browser back, as with some others I also did not have the menu option to change browser engines. So I did the next best thing and went back to the installed apps and just un-installed every application associated with the mozilla/microb browser. The sad thing is I so really (4x) wanted a better browsing experience on the IT, but geesh I mean I've used beta software before but wow. Scrolling was completely unusable with either the D-pad or finger as the OSK keyboard was constantly flashing up and down uncontrollably, and going page to page, link to link pages would load and look differently. So for me until the beta gets some things straightened out I'll take a pass for now, but I do like to see and hear of the continuing progress on the platform.

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So who is going to port Adblock first? And when you do take the glory of being the first, please post how ya did it, or the code.

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Gotta watch out for that finger keyboard bug ;)

I for one welcome the fact that Nokia is releasing early beta and pre alpha (rtcomm communications) software. That enables users like me who were using even less stable apps to really squeeze the most out of the IT.
It seems that lots of users were complaining about silence and lack of developments on the platform, now that there is dialogue and lots of releases (buggy as they may be) people are still complaining!!
Makes me remember why I stopped working in a software development house, as difficult as it may be it is pretty much a thankless job.

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I'll take the bugs with the alpha/beta software - certainly beats silence! Hooray to the developers. I thank you.

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Is anyone else have a download issue with the new Mozilla browser? When I try to install, it 'hangs', resets and then fails...perhaps too many people downloading? I have the new firmware...maybe I just need to wait a little while and try again?

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I can't find the .browser file.
HELP!!
Thanks

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I did do a restore from backup, so I agree, that could be the glitch. Right now I don't see any need to ever go back though. The Mozilla browser has, for me, completely trumped the Opera one. The only thing I could do in Opera that I can't seem to do right now is get Orb to stream internet video from anywhere but Daily Motion. But I don't watch a lot of internet video anyhow, and being able to use GoogleDocs is so much more satisfying.

I kind of worry that, since that switch engine option is missing, there are more subtle features I'm missing as well. Anyone have a thought on that?

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Files that begin with a . are automatically hidden in Linux. If you want to edit it, use vi /home/user/.browser.

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i have closed all browsers and using GPE file manager to search for this file, and can't find the .browser directory. i am able to see my home/user/.fonts (only after explicitly typing in the path). but when I try home/user/.browser I get an "invalid directory" error. Is it possible that I don't have one? Should I create one?
Am i missing something?

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Check the Application Manager logfile. Maybe you have the same problem i'm having? http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=7811

Ton.

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I don't know if GPE uses the standard Nokia abstraction of the file system because if it does, it will not see it. Also, .files will be hidden. If GPE honors that, it won't be seen there either. You would be better off just opening up an xterm and editing it that way.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I take it most of you never tried running Phoenix nightly builds. Oh, memories. :)

I'm pleased about having an open, hackable browser core. I would almost have preferred WebKit, but Gecko's extension system potentially equals win.

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I seem to remember when I found the announcement for this new renderer that Webkit/KHTML was also on the way, but I can't seem to find it right now.

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I found something that's very frustrating after installing this new browser. I need to input Chinese so I have been using the SCIM IME maemo port. It replaces the default virtual keyboard so this could be related to what I am having right now. When using the Mozilla browser, whenever I click within the browser window, even the scroll bar, the SCIM input window will come out. Switched the engine back to Opera and it's gone. Very frustrated right now...

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.browser is not a directory, it's a file. I gave up trying to figure out how to edit it via the gui, and just used vi in an xterm.

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So we're still waiting on a walkthrough to repackage our favorite extensions?

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I agree. This is more in line with the general opensource community and will help with the concerns over lack of communication. Personally, I generally prefer to use the latest & greatest, even if there are minor bugs. I'm sure a lot of others use opensource software for the same reason (well, as one of their reasons). To me, a device using GNU/Linux should be in constant OPEN development, and this appears to be the right direction.

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They already have the walkthrough in the Documentation section:

http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/extension.html

We're all just waiting for someone else to do it, heh.