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joeymc

2011-10-09 10:52

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Any further details on swype input use? Have an Australian black 16gb and can't find any settings for it anywhere...

slai	2011-10-09 10:56

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

i agree. i love the standard vkb tho, but nice to mix it up a little.

ossipena

2011-10-09 11:06

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guffaw (Post 1104957)

Random girl asking if you can change from qwerty to another vkb layout for sms/messaging.

it should be possible, there also is an app in the ovi store for that if I have understood correctly

ossipena

2011-10-09 11:15

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1105147)

My comparisons I did with N8 and SGS2 are all valid still. I didn't give any device any more favors than the other. All set to AUTO and just composed the shot and then pressed the shutter. There really isn't a lot to go wrong or make mistakes. =P

yes, those are valid for testing the automatic programs, not the image quality itself

ossipena

2011-10-09 11:20

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1105759)

It turns on when you first turn on the phone.
It blinks softly while charging. (breathing light)
That's about it. No way to configure it currently.

it uses exactly the same mce.ini that has been used since 770. Don't know if the triggers have been disabled, though.

e: at least sms trigger copied from N900 conf (with RM680 pattern for single color led) doesn't unfortunately seem to work...

N950 has only single color led, does N9 have RGB?

ossipena

2011-10-09 11:22

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by selfish_russian (Post 1105832)

It's 7 mp when the picture is 16:9.
Set it up 4:3 and you got full 8 mp.

actually the 8mp isn't full either.

http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s...cs-540x283.jpg

but 8mp is the most you can get out without black corners

jakiman

2011-10-09 11:40

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1105917)

yes, those are valid for testing the automatic programs, not the image quality itself

Of course I know the difference. However, if the automatic algorithm cannot handle the situation very well and provide a photo with worse image quality, then it is also a fault in itself. You can't expect the "target consumers" of the N9 (which is supposed to be the hip and trendy non-geeks) to manually select ISO every time.

The N9 camera middleware developer told me the algorithm and image quality will continuously be tuned and be included in future updates. So I guess it can only get better from now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1105919)

it uses exactly the same mce.ini that has been used since 770. Don't know if the triggers have been disabled, though.

N950 has only single color led, does N9 have RGB?

N9 seems to only have a single white color LED.
N9 feels like a over simplified version of N900....

lsolano

2011-10-09 16:56

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

i. Has someone used a Bluetooth car kit? I'm specially interested in Bluetooth Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)

ii. Has someone syncd the calendar/contacts with MacOS? (10.6.8)

iii. How easy is to write accented characters like á, é, í, ó, ú and ñ.

thanks!

slai	2011-10-09 17:10

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

its simple to write accented, just hold the a, n etc key for a short bit and a popup shows with for instance on a: aåæäàáâã.

emorej

2011-10-09 17:14

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

hi how can push notification enabled?

jalyst

2011-10-09 17:16

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1105780)

I have asked this to the N9 developer who's in the camera/video/audio middleware s/w team. He said he only does the camera part and will ask the guy who sits next to him who does the video playback part when he goes into work. (so will need to wait till Monday I guess) He's going to check if it is supposed to be able to handle Main profile H264. (High profile is a definite no go I believe) But he said he is sure that N9 supports 720p H264 Base profile.

LOL how are you getting as direct line to these people? I'm jealous.

jalyst

2011-10-09 17:21

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeymc (Post 1105906)

Any further details on swype input use? Have an Australian black 16gb and can't find any settings for it anywhere...

read this thread
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=32884#post32884

jalyst

2011-10-09 17:26

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1105927)

N9 seems to only have a single white color LED.

you knows this purely on the basis that it only ever flashes white, or for some other reason?

Paapaa

2011-10-09 18:02

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

When will there be Ovi Suite/PC Suite support for N9?

I NEED my SMS messages from N900 -> N9. Ovi doesn't support N9 yet and I don't know any means to transfer the SMSs. Any ideas?

erendorn

2011-10-09 20:12

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

extract the messaging databases :/
sql is user friendly ;)

Paapaa

2011-10-09 20:15

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

I have no experience on sql. But is the internal format identical in both N9 and N900? Can I just copy the database from N900 to N9? Any ideas how to transfer the damn SMSs...

jakiman

2011-10-09 20:59

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1106140)

you knows this purely on the basis that it only ever flashes white, or for some other reason?

this is from /etc/mce/mce.ini on my N9. :)

[LEDPatternLystiRX51] <-- N900
# Patterns used for the RX-51 hardware;
# this hardware has an RGB LED connected to a Lysti controller

[LEDPatternLystiRM680] <-- N9
# Patterns used for the RM-680/RM-690 hardware;
# this hardware has a single-colour LED connected to a Lysti controller

toki	2011-10-10 03:26

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by emorej (Post 1106122)

hi how can push notification enabled?

Settings > Notifications > Notifications > Push Notifications

=]

However! what IS push notifications? no idea what this feature does, but i turned it on for the fun of it

on another note,

iv selected "Hide private information" in the notifications
What this does is it will not display the content of my sms on the lock screen, however the content of the sms (the private information) is still displayed in full on the 'Events' homepage and also displayed at the top (when i just receive a sms while using the phone, the first line of the message will be displayed at the top)
how do i make it so that none of the sms content is shown?

thx!

EDIT:

oh! and i cant seem to sync my contacts or calender from my n900 across..
this makes me very sad...

and!
the app 'Drive'.. how do you deactivate 'toll ways'?

marrat

2011-10-10 06:48

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

For people fearing that they don't understand the setup, because it's a foreign language: My N9 from Denmark just booted up directly in German, after I inserted my German SIM.

Jedibeeftrix

2011-10-10 07:25

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by toki (Post 1106343)

Settings > Notifications > Notifications > Push Notifications

=]

However! what IS push notifications? no idea what this feature does, but i turned it on for the fun of it

is this related to metawatch style applications?

mece	2011-10-10 07:32

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by toki (Post 1106343)

oh! and i cant seem to sync my contacts or calender from my n900 across..
this makes me very sad...

That's weird. I managed to sync calendar and contacts from my N900 to my N950, both on beta 1 and beta 2. Over bluetooth. What happened when you tried?

ste-phan

2011-10-10 08:09

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

1) What about MMC speed?
The N900 although generously given 32GB was reputed for the slow speed of it.
Any improvement when you multitasking the phone into swapping situation?

And more importantly, since we have 2 flavours to choose from:

is the 16GB quicker than the 64GB version?

2) How is it as a document scanner???

E7 failed miserably being the business phone w/o autofocus. Inconsistent behaviour of Nokia makes me hope that the N9 will have a perfect business grade document scanner (close autofocus distance for easy document scanning and quick sharing)
N900 is great thanks to good camera + FrontView + resistive screen

3) SIP client : has it been confirmed to be integrated, does it work?

Switching between IM accounts: is it still easy to switch between 2 skype accounts?

4) Auto-rotation - how easy is it to lock the screen on landscape, for one hand reading in the bed for example (while multitasking :p ).
I don't like devices that try to be smarter and always ground level the orientation. Live does not stop when you're at 90 degrees.

5)How to zoom in with one hand now?
Pinch to zoom is such a girly feature and who made the world believe it is good enough to limit zooming to needing 2 hands , 2 fingers most of the time?
(without kick stand + counter balance weight add-on)

I prefer to steer a bike when zooming, drink beers, change my baby's diaper.

Sometimes tap to zoom doesn't get it right.

How to zoom with one hand?
Any buttons configurable? Any other option then pinch to zoom?

slai	2011-10-10 08:23

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

I pinch to zoom onehanded. Theres also double tap.

slarti

2011-10-10 08:30

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Is there/will there be support for connecting to SMB-shares?

erendorn

2011-10-10 08:46

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slarti (Post 1106408)

Is there/will there be support for connecting to SMB-shares?

If not done by nokia, I think connecting to SMB shares requires additional kernel modules => Aegis (ie, not possible at this time)

spectrax0x

2011-10-10 09:55

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Does the n9 allow the user to set system-wide proxy server settings? (ie not just browser, but all the other apps use the same proxy settings as well)

tq

marrat

2011-10-10 10:10

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrax0x (Post 1106442)

Does the n9 allow the user to set system-wide proxy server settings? (ie not just browser, but all the other apps use the same proxy settings as well)

tq

You can set the proxy per connection. I.e. you have to set the Proxy for each WLAN separately, but then it is system wide. Also the other can use it, such as Twitter, Facebook, Maps (however Maps download seems to done over some port which is blocked here).

ste-phan

2011-10-10 10:31

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

SIP client (native out of the box) ???
Does the N9 - more a phone than a mobile computer- have the built in SIP client that made Nokia communication devices great for generations?
Yes / No

Thanks in advance for anybody who can put this on the confirmed list

ste-phan

2011-10-10 10:34

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slai (Post 1106406)

I pinch to zoom onehanded. Theres also double tap.

Slai, if you have time, could you upload a video / how YOU do that? :) Thanks.

jakiman

2011-10-10 10:42

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Okay....

I'm beginning to think that N9 won't have as bright future as the N900 in terms of "expert developers" being able to improve the device beyond what Nokia can. The "expert developer" is now being considered as the "hacker" and is being blocked.

It seems N9 is now the new iOS/Android and need to be jailbroken/rooted/hacked to gain extra previleges. Until someone does it, our dreams of the N9 being the next N900 is just a dream it seems. (obviously, this only impacts the real geeks in this thread using the N9 like myself)

Basically, N9 is much more closed than we ever thought it would be:
http://wiki.meego.com/User:Javispedr...ecurity_policy

More info and dicussion about this:
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4575

erendorn

2011-10-10 10:59

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1106462)

I agree. It is very sad that we will need to choose (even if dual boot) between the Meego CE for hackability and Harmattan for quality (but closed source and DRMed) components...

jakiman

2011-10-10 11:07

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Yeah, I'm sure someone intelligent here will find a way. =)

ossipena

2011-10-10 11:20

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1106261)

[LEDPatternLystiRM680] <-- N9

RM680 is actually N950, but that doesn't affect the point at all.

jakiman

2011-10-10 11:26

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1106483)

RM680 is actually N950, but that doesn't affect the point at all.

Oops. RM-696 is also in that mce ini and it's the same as N950. :p

[LEDPatternNJoyRM696]
# Patterns used for the RM-696 hardware;
# this hardware has a single-colour LED connected to a NJoy controller

slai	2011-10-10 11:34

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

but rooting is possible? still no dice?

JohnHughes

2011-10-10 11:54

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slai (Post 1106493)

but rooting is possible? still no dice?

What is this "rooting" of which you talk?

Do you mean changing the euid to 0?

Put it in developer mode, there's a command avaialble.

Do you mean disabling Aegis? You'll have to install a custom kernel.

What does Aegis do? See http://wiki.meego.com/User:Javispedr...ecurity_policy

randomdood

2011-10-10 11:59

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

installed dev apps. openssh server and client get installed, but what is the default username and password (sshd is running). it never asked me for one.
do i have to set a password for the account called user?

marrat

2011-10-10 12:29

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

How is battery life on yours? Or rather, the battery usage stats? In the battery usage app (from Ovi Store) it shows me, that MeeGo System is using about 40% of the resources, which worries me somehow....

ossipena

2011-10-10 12:31

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slai (Post 1106493)

but rooting is possible? still no dice?

of course you can log in as root with xterm, but that doesn't stop the aegis at all.

jakiman

2011-10-10 12:50

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

For those interested, I've whipped up another short article. =)
(Only included instant unlock by double tap power button so far)

Nokia N9 – Get extra functions by editing the mce.ini file with video
http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/10/nok...-mce-ini-file/

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