Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

I think it is still not clear what developers should do, if they want to target extras and ovi store. From what I gather:

• qt-components is available without cssu, to target that we need to import org.maemo.fremantle and use qt 4.7.0, and depend on qt-components10. This should be ok with ovi. What about qt-mobility, can we use 1.2, or that depends on qt 4.7.4?
• to target cssu users (extras) we should do the same as above but we can use com.nokia.meego and qt 4.7.4

Is this list complete? Have I said anything wrong? I think there should be a wiki page with instructions

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

A list of missing icons could be fetched from https://gitorious.org/fremantle-qt-c.../generated.txt

me too :p

IMHO, yes. Developers who try QtComponents for the first time on Fremantle usually tries that package and get a bad impression http://thpmaemo.blogspot.com.es/2012...and-today.html . But , IMO i'm not the one who should ask for removing of a package no owned by me

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If you want to apply for extras, your app MUST depend only of packages that could reach extras, ie: If you depends of Qt 4.7.4 you are sticked to CSSU users and what's more, your app shouldn't reach even extras devel (You need to cheat with runtime dependences). If you make use of qtm12 and qt-components-10, you satisfy that requirements.

Ovi is a different beast. Ovi only allows you to depend of STOCK PR1.3 dependences, so if you want to push your app yo need to build a bundle with your app + qt-components-10 + libmaliit1 + qt-components-base-theme for QtComponents and qtm-12 and qtquickcompat for qtm12 (Or any other requirements for qtm12)

This problem also exists with Harmattan, but in that cases you already have QtComponents anf Qtm12 ;)


If you target SSU, you are already targetting CSSU. You only need to package a com.nokia.meego based QML files for your app ONLY if you want to benefit of ActionKey functionality with Maliit VKB

http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search...mponents&go=Go
Wikis are editable by everyone. Feel free to contribute and add/update pages with your experiences. ;)

As I said previously, Take a look to this:
https://qt.gitorious.org/~inean/qt-c...rld/autogen.sh
https://qt.gitorious.org/~inean/qt-c...World/main.cpp

That code generates Fremantle QML code from Meego couterpart and decided at runtime which system graphics and which QML set of files should use based on Qt version

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Sorry to ask again but I want to be sure before editing the wiki. If you make use of qtm12 and qt-components-10 you can reach extras, and no CSSU is required

correct?

ovi does not even pull dependencies from extras even if extras is enabled in peoples devices by default

correct?

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Yes to all. Problem with Ovi store is not the requirements but that Ovi will not allow an app in store that depends of non official repositories

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These icons are most important for MeeGo Harmattan apps. I tested some apps, and many of them require the missing icons.

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Harmattan icons aren't open. Feel free to provide good, free and redistributable ones at https://gitorious.org/fremantle-qt-c...commits/master. You can also use qt-components-blanco-theme and copy icons folder from an N9... :p

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I have qt-components-blanco-theme, qt-components-base-theme, qt-components-10, the -devel version, and still icons are missing. Is there a package which contains icons for N9 (installed on N9)?

EDIT: there's a package which depends on It's where the missing icons are. There's no entry /usr/share/doc/ about the copyright. Can this be uploaded to extras-devel?

The packages can be downloaded from:
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/....0+0m6_all.deb


I found it in the repo, the details found somewhere in FMC, don't remember where. Google will help you find it.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

After installing this, I tried one app from MeeGo. Icons were missing before, now after
All the icons in the toolbar are present.
Installs cleanly

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

No.
See http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=68

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Sorry, I don't see where the problem is. Is it copyright?
The package meegotouchtheme-nokia-icons installs cleany, the icons are recognized & shown properly.
You just need to clean the meegotouch cache

PS. Can qt-components-10 support com.meego namespace? There are some apps using this.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Yes

That namespace is deprecated. Besides that, org.maemo.fremantle is the required namespace for apps that want to reach extras repo. The only reason to support com.meego namespace is to allow to more elaborated apps to use some 'advanced' features that are only available with CSSU like SipAttributes.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

I read somewhere that blanco theme became opensource. On the other hand there is Nemo theme, doesn't it contain icons?

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Nemo theme icons are already merged on qt-components-blanco-theme. Same happens for images of blanco theme. (Follow the link posted 3 posts ago ;) )

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oops sorry :)

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The deprecation of that namespace doesn't mean it shouldn't be included.
I was trying out some Harmattan apps, and they use com.meego. Symlinking
works, but the apps don't work properly. E.g. with qtodo you can't click OK to add the todo/note. pogoda makes the whole system crash.

It's essential in the development to make as many as possible MeeGo apps run on Fremantle. Even though com.nokia.meego is most used, com.meego should be supported too.

Lack of com.meego namespace is one of the 4 main problems slowing down the development of MeeCoLay, the others are: problems with orientation/rotation, lack of libc6 (>=2.9), multitouch problem.
Even the lack of icons from Nokia's meegotouchtheme icons can be worked around as the package installs cleanly.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

I just made a crappy little web interface to help with the creation of icons here http://play.oob.gr/annasIconMaker/toolbaricons/

You can download the reference inkscape file, edit the "icon" layer, rename the file accordingly and upload it back. The system applies two filters, one for selected and one for disabled, so that we don't have to create 3 of each kind of icons. You have to resize the inkscape canvas manually to the required size.

I also made a page in the wiki (http://wiki.maemo.org/QtComponents/missing_icons) where everybody interested should help reorder the list so that the most needed icons are at the top, and completely unneeded ones are removed. I will update the list on the webapp once in a while to reflect changes in the wiki.

Question. Is there a free service where one can upload a php script to be collaboratively edited and used? ImageMagick is a requirement.

DISCLAIMER: This little script is very hastily coded, because it is a one-off utility to help us gather most needed icons. If anybody is interested in the code I can share it, but don't expect something nice. Also there is no error-checking whatsoever, the script will probably fail silently if it's fed an svg, not based on the one I provide. Also if you upload something with the same name as something existing, it will overwrite it.

I will start a thread with this text, so that the discussion can continue there.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

About copyright and Nokia theme:
1. Look at this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=40
2. If it's impossible, why don't you talk with the Council, maybe they can talk with Nokia representatives to allow us use the original icons?

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Marmistrz, Inean.

We will address the question about the use these icons to qgil.

To my understanding it shouldn't be a problem to package these icons to be used in Maemo 5 (as per this post), but in any case we will wait for a clear answer.

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Good. Also ask for Nokia Pure Font. IMHO it's even more important than icons because of changes on lines spacing, introduced on PR 1.2, that affect to UI layouts.

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Please just go ahead as explained in my previous posts.

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Thanks, I will push new packages ASAP

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That was blazing fast!

Thanks again qgil.

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Will you include the com.meego namespace in the new release just for the compatibility with MeeGo apps - there are apps, e.g. in apps for meego that use com.meego instead of com.nokia.meego?

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

No. You can't use 'com.meego' and 'com.meego.extras' namespace and pretend that things works smoothly. You may end with QDeclarativeEngine cache failures... ...if those apps use 'com.meego.extras' namespace. See also http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/8279

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So, what can we do with these Harmattan apps that use com.meego. I can't pretend that "It's okay that Harmattan apps using com.meego aren't working at all". They somehow work on N9, otherwise they wouldn't be in apps for meego.
Creating symlinks so that com.meego = com.nokia.meego results in a very strange behavior: system crashes, button being disabled.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Backport apps?. Really, more than a year ago, 'com.meego' namespace was deprecated. Why I should give support for broken stuff? IMHO, If apps depends on obsolete features, it's developers responsability to update their apps.

I prefer to be focused on a qt-components that works properly with quality apps.

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

So is there any other way to somehow run the apps with the deprecated namespace?

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

I found a bug in the qt components package. Apps using com.nokia.meego usually get Segmentation fault when the screen is paused. (I guess it's connected with QtLockscreen and because of it the app is minimized)

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Talk to the developers of the apps? What are these apps, by the way?

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

Qt Mobility for Qt Components seems to suffer from this bug: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-16901

I'm reporting this to atilla77 too.

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any update on this ?? whats up with these qt-components ?

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Are there any existing opensource app using it ? If not redak can be one of them , just ask ...

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

There shouldn't be any problem as far as you stick to QtComponents 1.0 features (N9 PR 1.1). If you want to give support to stock firmware, a bit of work would be required, IMO.


Salu2

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Mieru & modRana (QML GUI). :)

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All my gui apps use qt components

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Can I add layouts to Nemo keyboard? Can't find the answer on maliit.org

Re: [Announce] QtComponents for Fremantle
 

inean: Qt Components 1.3 is out. Can you upgrade the qt-components-10 package to 1.3?
https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-componen...bian/changelog

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IIRC, Mallit guys were working on a keyboard plugin that support layouts, but I don't know if it's used on NemoMobile. Las time I've take a look to Nemo they were using the QML one. Sorry.