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I have to laugh! Elop has disappointed both tmo/nokia users and he has disappointed MS/WP7 users
http://forums.wpcentral.com/general-...n/182316-8.htm
They are also all looking for a killer phone... :D

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AFAIK:

* No flash support on WP? If not that makes it clear why we will not see it on N9. Because why would they allow it on N9 if not on WP?

* No NFC on WP? Well that means we will for sure not see any payment method on N9 :( Same as above why would they?

Nokia fails for every damn second now...

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Well, it's of course a balancing act between recouping costs and not cannibalizing wp7 sales. Elop's main agenda is of course making sure wp7 is a success. It's a no brainer having N9 in the same markets would be 'disruptive' to wp7 sales.

The big mystery is how Elop managed to sell it to board of directors that Microsoft is more important than having a shot with Nokia's own platform.

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I think the Asha series might have been a concession to the board? Remember, he is appealing to the traditional symbian/nokia users crowd and picking up WP7 users. He has either made a very good play here, dependant on the quality of the handsets, or he is hedging his bets.

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Ah, but we already knew that the NFC in the N9 was not going to be of use for payments, given that the handset does not support SWP.

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The saddest thing is now we have to wait for the white N9. I really don't want to be confronted with the "Is this the lumia?" question.

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that is assuming the lumia will make an apperance down here. Btw if someone asks me if that's the lumia I will answer no this is not your sister.

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if nokia leave on TMO users that how a phone should be both hardware and OS wise, they will certainly get a better phone i think

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The Lumia 800 is decidedly first generation WP7 hardware when I halfway expected them to go with the STE U8500 hardware instead. That would have given Nokia an edge of sticking out, instead what they've done is wrap the external distinguishing part of the Nokia N9 and put commonplace Qualcomm hardware that has been in use in other phones for the last year.

On both the Nokia N9, which used the OMAP3 platform instead of the OMAP4 like the Motorola Atrix 2, and the Nokia Lumia 800 which uses the same Qualcomm QSD8250 chipset instead of the aforesaid STE chipset... they went out on the hardware as cheaply as possible without really risking much.

This is a "safe" bet. They can come out with better edition after Microsoft says that they can or should - yes, I'm under the impression that Microsoft pushed for this so that more people would hear or see WP7 on a device manufacturer the customers have previously trusted in order to get more mindshare.

I just am not impressed and for the record, I actually like WP7. This is not a huge step at all. This is a "release something now" move.

I'm glad I got a N9. Perhaps WP7 will be upgraded to where I'll rethink it. But this... isn't really a good showing. But it was a showing nonetheless and they did start shipping while still in conference. That's new.

Real new. Let's hope they continue that trend.

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How are you liking your N9?

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we can proudly say n9 its better device

800 is downgrade, =)

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Why did they change the location of the flash on the 800. Is it noticeable when taking a photo? I think it isn't.

N9
http://images.nokia.com/is/image/nok...ck_400x400.png

Lumia 800
http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_META...ck_400x400.png

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Where did you read that Lumia 800's body is injection moulded? I would like to read more about this.

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So why exactly would one go for the 800 or 710 over the Samsung or HTC offerings?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/s...er-6th-releas/

That story links to an older story with more detail on the two Samsung's IIRC.
Then there's the HTC Titan and Radar....

And weird thing I've just read, is they're not even bring them to the US (Canada too?) till 2012.
Are they waiting till they have something more top-end to release with them?

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Michael-Dallas who was the first one to leak the names of lankku and dali plus the specs actually just yesterday said on wpcentral that USA will have different phones and something very similar specced than the ace we have seen (while we know the "leaked" looks of it isn't real).

North American Nokia boss has also said that they will have tailor made phones for USA.

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When are they coming to the US with Nokia lumia

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Just FYI,

Lumia in Spanish means...***** ;)

regards

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Most TMO is missing the fact that there are people who in 10+ year history had only Nokia phones. They are not looking for developer device, don't care about userland, specs. All their phones were Nokia and will be. Samsung? HTC? This is what M$ wants in this deal. Brand affiliation is strong due to reliable phones produced so far. That is huge percentage of the market, even if smartphone fanboys cry and argue about specs

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It was mentioned in the keynote, either by elop or shields.

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I also believe that the finns should change the meaning of nokia to what lumia means in spanish

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Not sure if this will be answered amidst all the WP bashing, but can any1 tell me if the 800 supports wifi tethering??

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Actually, I think people are making too big a fuss about this. While it is true that lumia stands for whore in Spanish, it is far from a commonly used word. I have been asking around and nobody knew what lumia meant.

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Last I checked, pretty sure it's a default feature of mango now.
800 is a 1st gen Mango device, so it will support it.

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^Thnks.

And whats up with not being able to use any song from my collection as a ringtone. And also not being able to export contacts from the phone to the sim.

With no N9 release in my country, I was planning on mayb buying the 800, but this simply sucks. I know its an OS issue, but still :mad:

Re: Nokia Lumina 710 & 800
 

You need to get onto the wpcentral.com forums to learn how to manage your ringtone collection and sim/phone contacts.

I know that i can download my sim contacts to my HTC HD7.

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Not what i meant.

I CAN use any song as a ringtone, but for that it needs to be cropped to <40 seconds and <1 mb in size and its genre needs to be specified as ringtone. Its not the same as using any song on my phone as a ringtone. something that a lot of us do or would like to do.

And, I CAN download my sim contacts to the phone, but the reverse of it is not possible, even in Mango.

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I am curious when lumina 800 will become available in the USA

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Most probably never, but USA will get it's own high end phone early next year. 710 will find it's way to USA.

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Liking it a lot. Some minor issues - Drive will not work for me - but otherwise, so far so good. Browser is good as well...

Gave a quick review here...

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I've understood hardware support in WP7 is very limited, so Nokia might not have had much choice here. This isn't like Linux where you can just hire a few kernel hackers to do your own hardware adaptation...

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Simply put there's no support for anything else than what's now in WP. Apollo will get dual core support, somewhere late next year and it's to be seen will there even then be support for ST-Ericsson.

CEO of ST-Ericsson has been saying all kinds of things about earlier support for long time, but i have stopped listening those long time ago.

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ZuneHD had a Tegra chipset. And according to Microsoft, Qualcomm isn't exclusive to WP7 and they could switch to any chipset... supposedly.

But if you look deeper and more recently - it seems like Qualcomm is indeed the exclusive chipset manufacturer... makes no sense.

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In theory Microsoft could run there Software on anything, but then again in theory Communism works.

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So did anyone buy one... :)
I think I'd prefer the Focus S or HTC's offering.

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Lumia 800 seems to be doing quite nicely in UK. More preorders than ever before from a Nokia phone.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/11/15/o...a-nokia-phone/

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OK I've been trawling through so many fanboy opinions....but I'm torn between:

Lumia 800: Nice design; no NFC but locked into Win/Bing/Zune ecosystem. Feels far removed from Nokia world.

N9: Lovely design; but few Apps; lack of ongoing support;

Galaxy Nexus: Only 16Gb in UK...No Sdcard slot / No FM radio (?)

I still love my N900 but am smarting from lack of Nokia support. That said, I still have a lot of Nokia brand loyalty going back to the old 2110 brick, however the N9 situation completely flumoxes me.

I have to say I'm impressed with what I've seen of ICS.....it seems much more slick than previous Android OSs......which may well sway me against the N9.

Thoughts? Anyone out there with any hands-on experience of all 3 ?

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I love the design of 800. The biggest drawback that I found about Luminia 800 is, it does'nt have a front facing camera thus can't make video calls

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I got one the day it came out and I must admit, its bloody gorgeous!

Hardware wise, its very sturdy and its weighty enough to make you feel like you are holding something solid and robust without making it a pain to carry around. The screen has to be seen to be believed, its sumptuous and the clearblack floating display is lovely.

Camera ain't so hot and I will definitely be holding on to my N8 for a while longer and there isn't any HDMI output (understandable as not yet supported by WP7).

The WP software is definitely maturing and is very fast, slick and responsive.

Nokia haven't had much of a chance to integrate their own software onto the platform yet and what they have put on is almost as an afterthought. Nokia Maps co-exists with Bing Maps and Nokia Music uses Zune's backend. There are also issues with Maps and Drive not talking to each other which is a bit of a pain in the ***.

Overall, I would say the Lumia 800 is a beautiful piece of design with an "almost there" OS and is Nokia's first real competitor to the iPhone. Clearly, its not got the flexibility and openess of Maemo and I won't be selling my N900 in the near future, but as a smartphone for the masses, its excellent.

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what is the call quality

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Call quality fine. Not as good as the N8, but better than the N900. However, this may depend on your provider.