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klogdog 2008-11-13 09:37

Re: PSX / Playstation 1 Emulator
 
I would like to know how to install ps1 on the n800. I have the libraries installed and the other dependencies needed but I do not know how to set/ where to put the config files. The pcsx runs but wont let me address config directories. Any help maybe a quick how to would be appreciated. I am currently using the diablo os2008 if that is any help.

Edit: Well after some poking around I found what I was lookinfg for.... now it just crashes...

xtothea420 2008-11-19 00:04

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bump for good luck

samjc3 2009-05-26 17:44

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bump!!:D

anything ever happen with this? seems like nothing has happened at all, for any of the nit's, since late 2007:(:confused:

totololo 2009-05-26 17:55

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I simply fail to see how a decent PSX emulator could run on a light power device like a N8xx tablet. It would be unusable, i think.

That's maybe why it's not actively developped ?

But a Super Famicon emulator should run very well ... I would love to see it ...

samjc3 2009-05-26 17:59

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well, there are decent psx emulators on the gp2x, which is 290mhz, with 64 mb of ram, so it should be easily done an n8x0, with a 400mhz processor, and at least 128 mb of ram. there is no excuse for not having one.

Bundyo 2009-05-26 18:12

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Incidentally GP2X also has 3D... :D

totololo 2009-05-26 18:13

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Maybe we don't have the same idea of what is a decent emulation.
When your game runs between 4 and 12 fps ... it's not decent to me.

And don't forget that our NIT hardware spend some power in the OS too ... so you don't have full power available for your emulator. Another big problem is that hardware graphics acceleration doesn't seem to be usable ... if I remember correctly.

dukemagus 2009-06-02 16:34

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what about a petition for the 3d graphics that the n8x0 need? i bet with 200 or 300 signatures (and maybe a promisse of more n8x0 sales) they would think about our case... makint "old" gadgets can be unexpensive for nokia, and sell just great! well... i'm just dreaming

totololo 2009-06-02 19:53

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I think it woud take a lot more than 300 signatures to have any weight.

Moreover, N8xx are dead, a new hardware & software is expected, that will have better graphics capabilites.

Maybe you should consider buying the awfull PSP Go or simply a PSP.
Personnaly i got a DSi.

overfloat 2009-06-02 21:53

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get a psp slim from dell for $120

http://dealnews.com/Sony-PSP-Slim-Ha...ng/299412.html

dukemagus 2009-06-03 03:06

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PSP have no touchscreen, wifi, bluetooth, etc, etc, etc... and DSI can't play PSX games

b-man 2009-06-03 03:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dukemagus (Post 293209)
PSP have no touchscreen, wifi, bluetooth, etc, etc, etc... and DSI can't play PSX games

The PSP does in fact have wifi, and i believe that the new PSP Go does have bluetooth. ;)

dukemagus 2009-06-03 20:16

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toucheé... however, u should admit that it would be REEEEALLY intresting if we have that "secret driver" and could unleash the machine's full potential.

and well... Nokia's internet tablet are famous for having lots of functionalities... the more the better i guess, anda emulate old PSX games can be a great addition

totololo 2009-06-03 20:51

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Well, you know we don't even have Super Famicon emulator. It's a pity because it could run quite well on N810 ...

So I guess that a PSx ... is just a sweet dream ... ;)

dukemagus 2009-06-04 03:46

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a dream that can possibly come true... we just need to mobilize the right people...

well, i haven't bought my n800 (yet) and my programming knowledge is zero (windows-user ¬¬') but sooner or later i can help in the "morale boost" sector... i have faith in the people here... i've seen they creating ambitious and great things (mer, almost every single maemo app...). maybe if them just try something different, we'll have a multi-console multi-purpose gadget sonner or later

Thesandlord 2009-06-04 04:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dukemagus (Post 292973)
what about a petition for the 3d graphics that the n8x0 need? i bet with 200 or 300 signatures (and maybe a promisse of more n8x0 sales) they would think about our case... makint "old" gadgets can be unexpensive for nokia, and sell just great! well... i'm just dreaming

There is a lot of discussion about the 3D drivers. First of all, there is an external LCD driver, so the 3D would have to be rendered, then pushed to a controller, then rendered again, and pushed to the screen (That's what I think). Also, Nokia seems to have a 3D driver, but they cant give it to use because it is for the wrong kernel, and because of licensing issues, it can't be distributed. This may change, but chances are not. So yeah, no chance of PSX emulation on the tablets.

Nokia knows about this. They solved it with Maemo 5 hardware. To bad for us I guess...

overfloat 2009-06-04 04:43

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feel free to reverse engineer it and write the driver from scratch

dukemagus 2009-06-05 02:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 293583)
There is a lot of discussion about the 3D drivers. First of all, there is an external LCD driver, so the 3D would have to be rendered, then pushed to a controller, then rendered again, and pushed to the screen (That's what I think).


that means that putting the whole weight on the processor could get better performance? (i'm a noob windows user... dunno about h\w things)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 293583)
Also, Nokia seems to have a 3D driver, but they cant give it to use because it is for the wrong kernel, and because of licensing issues, it can't be distributed. This may change, but chances are not. So yeah, no chance of PSX emulation on the tablets.

i'm noob 'bout software too, but having the drivers "in hands" ("propositally leaked" maybe? ok... forget 'bout conspiracy theory), a talented coder could adapt it to run perfectly on N8X0 platform right?

Thesandlord 2009-06-05 05:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dukemagus (Post 293889)
that means that putting the whole weight on the processor could get better performance? (i'm a noob windows user... dunno about h\w things)

i'm noob 'bout software too, but having the drivers "in hands" ("propositally leaked" maybe? ok... forget 'bout conspiracy theory), a talented coder could adapt it to run perfectly on N8X0 platform right?

Currently it is all on the processor. And seeing that the tablet can barely run SNES, PSX is out of the question.

And yes, a talented coder could reverse engineer the drivers, but they would not be perfect (ever*) and by then there would be Crysis on mobile devices...

*It would never display in native 800x480

Quote:

Well, you know we don't even have Super Famicon emulator.
We have two, LJP in Garnet VM and Snes9x. Both have upsides and downsides, but they do work. And that is for a different thread.

totololo 2009-06-05 06:23

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AFAIK, Snes9x doesn't really work ... am I wrong ?

samjc3 2009-06-06 05:07

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the reason none of the emulators work very good is that none of them a ported very well. the only app that is actually well done is mplayer, which is excellent. sadly, too few people have nit's to justify the "big" programmers to step in and make some magic (zodttd)

Bundyo 2009-06-06 05:19

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fms' emulators work quite good. And the problem is not the number of people that have NITs but the missing 3D drivers which would have helped a lot - most emulators already depend on OpenGL these days.

ArnimS 2009-06-08 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 294226)
And the problem is not the number of people that have NITs but the missing 3D drivers which would have helped a lot - most emulators already depend on OpenGL these days.

thisn is totally wrong and beneath further comment

McLightning 2009-07-10 15:36

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it this emu. working?
otherwise
we can user psx emu which is for palm and we can use on our NIT devices with GARNET VM.

zarkokn 2009-12-14 14:00

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there is a video on youtube of running psx4all on n900, someone have information about it? i haven't find anything on google.

steady 2009-12-14 14:31

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I will love if i can get psx emulator to my Nokia N900 :)

rhys_himself 2009-12-14 16:07

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Another vote for psx4all on Maemo5 N900 here!

Can you imagine playing Gran Turismo 2 on these beastly devices? Maybe even with tilt controls like VGBA does??! *shakes with glee at the thought*

:)

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-12-14 16:09

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tekken ftw.

Rushmore 2009-12-14 17:09

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I would prefer the current emulators to be improved to a good level first, but the chance of playing Raiden 2, DOA, Devil Dice and Crash Racing would be cool. Not sure how practical due the the KB though.

Let us hope they allow options for mapping diagonals ;)

Fötus 2010-02-01 06:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhys_himself (Post 427285)
Another vote for psx4all on Maemo5 N900 here!

Can you imagine playing Gran Turismo 2 on these beastly devices? Maybe even with tilt controls like VGBA does??! *shakes with glee at the thought*

:)

This would be so awesome!!!
How is the status on this project? Is someone working on it?

AnimeVamp360 2010-02-02 03:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ArnimS (Post 62055)
AND now for useless lust factor. Playstation emulator pcsx runs fine. Just needs libglade2-0 (apt-get install libglade2-0)

then dpkg -i pcsx-bin_1.699df-rc3-1_armel.deb

Course, to run any games it'll need psemu-video-x11-1.15 for graphics and the alsa plugin for sound.

The x11 plugin has Unmet build dependencies: libgtk1.2-dev | libgtk-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev btw...

There are software gl emus floating around for gp2x, gizmondo etc, if someone wants to take a crack at it :)




hey im new to maemo an linux.. i recently just brought a n900 and was wondering if thers any news on a ps1 emu for it? thank you

Sunderland 2010-02-10 18:49

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Any news about this emu?

Sunderland 2010-02-12 18:17

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Anyone? :mad:

gabby131 2010-02-12 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunderland (Post 519908)
Any news about this emu?

dont worry, this thread goes over a hundred replies, maybe some developers would hear or read about this

zerojay 2010-02-12 18:28

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When we can't even get a SNES emulator to run at fullspeed with no frameskip... PSX is pretty much out of the question.

nax3000 2010-02-13 10:16

Re: [OS2008] PSX / Playstation 1 Emulator
 
Don't mean to diss you man, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
The HTC touch pro 2 which has a by now ANCIENT processor can run a few PSX games on full speed with no frame skipping.
I wish we had something like FPSECE for Maemo 5. I mean, with an excellent architecture and an open source OS, a PSX emu is absolutely possible. Just a matter of optimization and utilizing the GPU for further acceleration.
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Cpasjuste 2010-02-13 10:25

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well, i could probably do a great port, but the point is it wont be really usable without proper controls ... im not sure i want to loose my time because of that. same (and worst) for a N64 one.

zehjotkah 2010-02-13 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpasjuste (Post 524511)
well, i could probably do a great port, but the point is it wont be really usable without proper controls ... im not sure i want to loose my time because of that. same (and worst) for a N64 one.

we have the playstation 3 controller over bluetooth, so give it a shot ;)

basketcase_2004 2010-02-13 14:40

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im gettin 30fps with pupniks pcsx port with ff7. not tried it with sound yet.
got frameskip set to 40 like. :/
so far have tested a few other games. heres a list.

ff7: 25-30fps but stalls in the first battle sequence.
Rayman @30-35fps: gets the the ubisoft intro and freezes
ff6@ 40fps in movie intro: gets to the title screen but dpesnt allow you to start.
MGS: doesnt load at all
G-darius @25-30fps: stalls at title screen.

there the only ones which have tried so far.
All we need is a video plugin which utilises the powerVR :/ ive looked around to try and find out what psx4all uses bcz the iphone has pretty much the same gpu as n900. but no luck.
anyone have any ideas?
or tried this?

zehjotkah 2010-02-13 15:46

Re: [OS2008] PSX / Playstation 1 Emulator
 
ask ZodTTD, he made the psx emulator for the (very similar to the n900) pandora.

psx running on pandora:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXtYmZa4yM

here is his site:
http://www.zodttd.com/


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