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This is why off-topic forum should have "Thanks" button. Bit of laughter and smile after a really crappy week. Thanks Dan.

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Meanwhile, in a world of broken hearts and disillusions... :(

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...729511cf32.png

Look at that short time span. What has the company in this graph done in this time span? Nothing worth mentioning!

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Fruit company?

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What can I say? Balmer's a funny guy!
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Nokia slowly gain some value.

I wonder how the market will react on the announcment of windows 8 devices. That is the trick part ATM. Can't really tell.

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It will happen slowly and steadily (in "mobile" terms). In 1-2 years the choices will be a China-mobile (China branded Android) or a WP. Not to say those china mobiles will be a bad choice, they will be good, but the inventive and design stuff will come from the old ones running WP.

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Yes, it is. This is now the best climb this year.

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Whats the deal with the rumor that Nokia Shareholder's are calling for immediate meeting to fire Elop any effect on the Helsinki exchange of this rumor?

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If Elop IS fired, i'm guessing there'll be a slight, but sharp increase in the share price?

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There would have to be an announcement of what they will do differently than their current, all Microsoft path which... is locked in for another year I do believe.

Realistically, the increase will be a very slight bump more than likely; all tentative on who replaces him and what's announced as to what's upcoming.

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The problem is, Elop has destroyed all the in-house alternatives they had, so I'm not sure how they could successfully change their strategy at this point :/

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If it was true would think analysts would drop the stock like hot coal, because of the uncertainty. Until the replacement strategy was analysed.

But then, others with risk preference would run in. Anyway, too many rumours so I don't think it'll have much to say as long as it's nothing but.

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the rumor bout elopfire is plain stupid why on earth do people beleive this crap would happen two weeks before release of three wp8 devices?

Get over it, nokia has its WP strategy and they will not change!

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It's not a rumour dude, it's a serious issue atm that has been reported in the Finnish press

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Geez... there is NO shortage of good material out there about this. I wonder why!

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Dan, I have never come across a more anti troll fanboy than you. Why are you so anti against so much?

Except Google and posting images?

Now HTC losing ground an trying some new tricks to compete. Let's see how that turns out.
http://androidandme.com/2012/08/smar...ung-and-apple/

Nokia is biggest in the Windows segment, can reduced price give HTC the top spot?

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And probvadly dissinformation a stupid translations as always. Again I ask why would they try fire Elop just a few weeks before announcement of three W8 phones? Also Nokia has NO CHANCE change strategy now, the investors probadly knows that too. Its WP8 Success OR drop dead atleast on hiend.

They have no chance now to come back with Meego or Symbian. So even IF they fire Elop its no point. Its already to late.

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Not necessarily. Or rather, NOT AT ALL.

It's quite possible to adjust the strategy without going THE [our current] PLATFORM IS ON FIRE; DO NOT BUY!!! WE WILL BRING [alternative platform] PHONES NEXT YEAR!!!1!

Which is exactly what Elop is the kind of leader to already have done. Even if it'd be right to keep the Windows Phone strategy, they have the worst leader ever.

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so what would that other strategy doing!? Hiring back sw engineers ? Going android also? Buy qt from digia? Buy back factoys?


seriously its no possible even if theyr fire that joke.... Its too damn late...

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There are people who can revise a strategy way more qualified to see opportunities of improvement than you, apparently. Than me too, so I am not going to play at answering your silly question like I was an experienced mobile business leader.

Elop is not the only person in the world capable of revising a strategy, if that's what you're thinking. What is clear even for me and you is that Nokia needs to get rid of the man who has managed to drive the stock price down from 11 dollars to 1.5 primarily because of the way he announced, communicated and implemented his new strategy. His mouth is Nokia's biggest risk.

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the fact that I can hear "That's all you can say" in DeeDee's voice... has me in tears over here laughing.

So 11% growth lately. Still a long way to go back to $8 though. Can this growth continue? Has anybody even figured out why there's this growth?

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Cause Elop's has been saying "Industrial Design" repeatedly instead of trying to come up with new blunders?

Oh, and because Windows Phone 8 is coming soon. Expectations are rising.

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During the last 3 months Nokia stock has increased 20% in value, HTC has decreased 40%

Nokia is growing because the market is tired of beating it. Nokia didn't go bankrupt, Nokia wasn't purchased by anyone. Nokia didn't disappear, and the future is bright. That's why

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Sure! I'm sure it'll eventually work out really well. :)
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While you bashing Nokia I'm making money of it. 76 procent last month alone.

Arrow and Phi rock the stock :D

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Interesting reading on Nokia stock:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/8262...now?source=msn

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That's great! What is your lifetime profit from Nokia stock?

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Unless you bought when it was at the lowest, you're accuracy of truth is at amusing levels. And, well, we've all in here been reading "NOW I BUY, EXCELLENT TIME" all the way down the last 8 dollars, so...

Who are you guys trying to kid? Is it working? Is it fun while it's obviously not working? No level of trolling makes a "i buy for profitkthnx" statement at i.e. eight dollars make "i earn so much" statement look good at i.e. two dollars.

Anyway, I just got here to tell y'all I'll be unable to link them orange graphs for a few weeks, so if someone else wants to, feel free to keep the dry facts coming in here, and keep the idiocracy in the old nokia stock thread. Oh, wait. It's closed because of you.

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guys, you know that you can buy and sell right, and that can give a higher percentage?

if you lose you can buy twice as much and when it goes up(if) get even and plus.


My life time profit nokia? it's close to even or slightly blow 0. bought last year but sold quite fast but lost some assets. I'm working on yearly basis. I have been trading for 1,5 years. Can't buy stocks in the real world, but luckily you can always do it on the Internet .

It's always an excellent time and its never an excellent time. Analyzes of the market,stock and you portfolio to see what you can do. A stock is not automatically a great buy just becouse its low in a wide perspective. Let's say windows grows to apple level of market share. that would would give us are real profit. I konw, It sounds crazy. but let me tell you. It has happend before...

But then again. why not share when you got some progress...everything can be gone next monday.
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And if you calling me a liar am I am a liar to you, I don't have to prove anything here. it's the last row thats count at the end of the year.

Last time I shared my nokia stock journey here...from now on it all trolling. you cant trade on facts since the stocks don't care about facts.

To many trolls and no traders. from now on. Only nokia owners are allowed to speak here

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That sounds a lot like censoring criticism. Ironically, if only Nokia "owners" can speak, you're effectively telling people to stop pointing out any truth that inconveniences someone that owns stock.

Just remember where you are in the great scheme of long investing. (If you're a short investor--well, you're just gambling then)...
http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=...NOK1V&&fct=big

In terms of long, you've got an insurmountable climb up that I can't see in the current ecosystem that Nokia let slip through their fingers.

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From the last Q2 report, purchasing Nokia was a no brainer if you knew basic math. The price was way below the value of the company, and they had cash to keep on going for several years. Ashas are selling like hot caces, and WP market share had increased 270% exclusively due to Nokia. From that moment on the stock could only go up, at least up to the real value of 4-5 US$ per share.

Most of that has already happened now, faster than I suspected, but that doesn't mean it HAS to climb higher than 4-5. From a reality point of view, there is no REAL reason it should go higher than 5 ish, and no real reason it should be lower than 4 ish. When the price was 1.5 and the Q2 report came, that was a reality check that eventually HAD to push the price up, no speculation or gambling involved due to the limbo state Nokia was in.

When looking at the industry (smartphones), it consists of these things:
1. The iPhone
2. Android phones
3. Blackberrys
4. WP7
5. WP8
6. Symbian
7. Asha (not even considered a smartphone by Nokia, but a smartphone it is because it does what smartphones does)

Filtering out the dead and soon to be dead:
1. iPhone
2. Android
3. WP8
4. Asha

Will Nokia make it here? The question is already answered. Ashas are selling like hot cakes, and Nokia finally have their expenses under control. The only question left is will Nokia start making large profits, that eventually push the stocks up far above the min value of the company, way beyond 5 US$ per share? Obviously no one can answer that question but becoming all fanboyant and "anti-FLop" trolls does not help you one bit understanding the industry.

I believe WP8 and Nokia will make it why?
1. My Lumia 800 is the best everyday phone I have ever had. WP8 will have all that and lots more (pureview, indoor navigation etc).
2. WP8 will be the place for development and new stuff. Android will be cheap chinese phones exclusively and will get the cool new stuff 1-2 years later.
3. MS ecosystem is great. With Win8/RT/WP this will be all fused together in a way people can't resist.
4. WP/Win will be the choice for business and gaming. The two main "killer apps"

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its so obvious that Nokia is on the rise. Haters will be haters though.

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So, let's indulge ourselves in a little thought experiment:

No matter how much of an WP evangelist one might be, the line between religious devotion and overly-optimistic investing probably gets drawn at the point when one actually considers that a given company might, no matter how good the product, end up failing and bankrupting itself.

So, let's assume Nokia goes bankrupt. The "stock is so low, tiem 2 by moaaar" crowd, I mean duo, gets stuck with a crapload of stock belonging to a dead company.

Once things go down south, how will price react, and what opportunities arise for making a profit out of those share? And, more likely, is there actually any way to make such profit?

In short, what happens to stock owners once Nokia gets comfy in wooden pajamas, and proceeds to gulp down some grass juice six feet under?

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This is redicullous. You can't be a fanboy and a trader at the same time. Not if you want to make money in the stock market. You can get luucky of course, but if luck is your main asset you are better of on the race ttracks.

You get the phone(s) you want based on whateve, looks functionality smell ... You buy and sell stock based on some kind of analysis, and you do it to make money.

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Very very nice X % today :D

Samsung's penaltys to apple push back samsung and gives a lift to Nokia...possably!

Another Great day to own nokia stock!

Edit: Nokia will release Zynga draw and zynga poker later. If zynga will allow real money games in the future this would be major. If you don't know. zynga is huge since they are working with facebook.

Great news!

see playmoney to the left.
http://www.pokerscout.com/

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Zynga is even worse investment than Nokia. Lost 80% of stock price since the march highs. Zynga is now worth about 1/5th of the IPO price. The key people are already leaving the ship as fast as possible and there is an insider trading lawsuit brewing. Oh and Electronic Arts and Maxis are suing them over IP theft.

The casual Facebook gaming buble is over.
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Well, everything depends on when and in what time frame you invest.

I'm not saying you shall invest, just saying they have huge userbase as long as they are online there just great for any device, since it generats x amount of devices for nokia.

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You guys are such a Trollmageddons. So negative, only post negatives. Even if i'm not a fan of windows phone, I think its great when the stock is moving in a positive direction since pole all over the world gets more money.

why follow the negatrons when you can join Optimus Dave ;)

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And you are just now seeing all the negative trolling going on? The people here are NOKIA haters, I am surprised they have been banned or banished yet.

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Hey lumiatroll, you don't need to get banned for hating nokia. Personally, loved the maemo/meego nokia much more. But what's done is done. Move forward and why not make some money while doing so.