Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Hmm, interesting. I also frequently connect / disconnect @home&work using ConnectNow widget, without much rebooting. We'll see.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Yep, "interesting" is the right word ;)
But I guess it is the uninitiated cut of inet, not the initiated. But let's see...

P.S. made some corrections in script (typos, see my former post)

And yes, it works (tested today). At least for me and my DCEW caused problem! :)

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Sorry guys,
whoever downloaded the attached script (three posts before), please check again. There is one small typo.


For all who are following:
I had in alarm ui replacement thread a post, where I said the alarm pop up is unresponsive.
I could verify this today morning. Pop up comes up, alarm IS ringing, but buttons do not respond (you need to cut power or let it ring out). After that there is no snooze function (pop up yes, but no ring tone).
It is definitely the widgets hanging. :(
Possible solution to this is to set the loop time to less than snooze time (e.g. 4 minutes).
For sure I do not know how to get the pop up to respond to stop/snooze the alarm.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

...i had no issue since i "somehow restarted" the alarm queue by using alarmed once, and kept R-D mode enabled (being too lazy to disable).

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

due to some reason i had to re-lode OS on my N900, now i have reinstalled almost all of my application including ApMeFo, my problem is now when i creat folders it gets ceated and i get apps icon in it, but some of those icon does not disappear from main menu, my main menu is mess with folders and icons. i did diagnosis tool and hear is the code i get (in this code i am getting names of some of my old folders)

hildon.menu set: True
hildon.menu matches: True

Directory Files:


Menu Files:
Files.menu
Health.menu
Online.menu
Organise_me.menu
Sketching.menu



please help me
or let me know where i can get help
kind regards
sushrut kadam

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

due to some reason i had to re-lode OS on my N900, now i have reinstalled almost all of my application including ApMeFo, my problem is now when i creat folders it gets ceated and i get apps icon in it, but some of those icon does not disappear from main menu, my main menu is mess with folders and icons. i did diagnosis tool and hear is the code i get (in this code i am getting names of some of my old folders)

hildon.menu set: True
hildon.menu matches: True

Directory Files:


Menu Files:
Files.menu
Health.menu
Online.menu
Organise_me.menu
Sketching.menu



please help me
or let me know where i can get help
kind regards
sushrut kadam

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

One time posting is fully enough.
And totally unrelated to this thread. (also I do not know how to help)
So please open up a new one instead.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Well it's been a while and I have decided it's probably a rogue application in extras.

Which one I have no idea yet.

I have been running a clean Smaemo6 and Tmaemo7.2-thumb on other devices for many months and not been able to reproduce the fault.

I have settled on restarting hildon-home and hildon-desktop with cron at 3am and then doing a swap shuffle at 3.30am as a workaround.

I just can't afford to rebuild everything I have on my day to day N900.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

So oddly it's been a year and one day since the OP.

I don't wish to curse it but I now have ~5 days of uptime with no hildon-home bug; after many years of suffering.

It seems the issue was a widget after all. I have not 100% diagnosed which one but I recently removed custom-operator-name-widget, psswitcher and camera-lens-reminder plus a few others.

I made the discovery that some python widgets seems to leak into h-h, obviously this isn't ideal. Seems best to avoid python based widgets until I can reproduce which is the culprit on my test device.

Reading all of this bug report I found by chance, helped with diagnosing this.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8723

I removed the packages above with

After that I made sure I had a clean version of packages that had been showing high CPU in top, just incase.

Hopefully I can pin this down to one or two applications but it nice to be free of killing hildon-home every 2 days.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Why didn't you try my workaround?
I remember your problem was/is a bit different, but afair this should solve it also (killing/restarting hh in background). Of course it is only a workaroind and not always 100% reliable (if it happens during usage you need to manually solve it). But hey, I didn't suffer also from this big since a long time...

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Didn't need to, I just used cron at 3am to release the memory leak caused by the bug. This workaround has now been disabled.

The whole point of the thread was to locate a solution to the issue, which I think I have found after removing/installing packages from extras to diagnose. If I used a semi-permanent workaround I wouldn't be able to see the bug and what it does to diagnose it.

Due to my noticing stopping mce kills the bug I linked this with diagnosing it. I suspect it's the lens cover reminder app but I want to prove it properly before spreading FUD.

Also as I have mentioned before it's best to use "dsmetool -k" to kill hildon* just in case it doesn't recover correctly.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

In my case hildon-home bug appeared right after some cssu update ( I think I upgraded to thumb). I started removing widgets from desktop but it didn't help. Then I noticed that the operator name widget which installed itself with upgrade to thumb was refeshing it self. Conky was showing hildon-home in top processes tab every 3-5 s. I think it was custom-operator-name-widget.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

Did you report this to someone because it's been in CSSU Testing for a while now.

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

custom-operator-name-widget is now part of the default CSSU-T, and has been for a while AFAIK. And I've used camera-lens-reminder for some time (over a year) without this issue. But then I also don't use the camera that often. :)

I could also be that it is one of the above, but the leak only happens in certain conditions (eg, when you change service areas often, or use the camera a lot and/or leave the lens open.) So, take all of that with a grain of salt.

Memory leaks and odd behavior are a bear to track down, especially in plugins. I had something corrupting my message bd monthly until I figured out that having Nokia's own messaging widget was causing it by rifling through/locking the db based on a dbus message at the same time the notifier and/or conversations app was trying to do the same. :P Would occasionally cause the whole IM/SMS/E-mail system to deadlock until h-h was killed.

Good luck and thanks for taking the time to try at least. :)

Re: [N900] Yes, another hildon-home bug thread...
 

As said earlier, for me it was/is the DECW...