Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I already posted my suggestions in the first page of this thread ;)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

rm -r /sarcasm
(package is obviously broken) :D

Ack.

just trying to keep the thread On Topic.

I think we all recognise the commercial necessity of having closed components and applications.
It's clear that Skype (amongst others) is highly valued as an app by a number of people, thus it's place in the list ;)
Just trying to keep the thread clean and easier (for myself) to manage and stay on top of!

Regards,

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Simple answet for that.. Because none of them know anything about those protocols and won't bother to setup anything like that just so thry can talk to me.. Because it's also too "complicated" for them.. You do understand that the majority of people aren't as tech savvy as you and I..

Anyways ur right it's getting out of hand with the off-topic this was my last about this particular subject..

EDIT: My point exactly ..

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Mer (so also Sailfish OS) already has SymPy 0.7.2 CAS available, see here. There is also IPython 0.13.1 with text console, but I'm trying to release a full version of IPython with Qt console and Notebook interfaces.

In the following weeks I will release Calculus (Limit + Derivative + Integral + etc, see my signature) for MeeGo Harmattan, then Sailfish OS.

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You guys are aware that whatsapp is tool for it's company seeking for phonebooks, complete userdata, like including addresses, email and birthdays is what they want. Jabber/XMPP was behind most or even close to all new garbage msg apps... they use what is already there... we should start msg.maemo.org and jump the bandwagon.

@bandora ... "you install skype, you register for skype, you login, you add friends, you call"
"you install a jabber client, you register a jabber account, you login, you add friends, you call"
What is the difference? - One is a company reading your texts (they ping any https URL you write btw) and listening to your calls, one is an admin respecting your privacy...

you are here on a tech savvy forum... XMPP is the protocol behind jabber, facebook-chat and many others - used to be googleTalk yada yada yada (bad tongues say skype uses the code as well) don't know about whatsapp but I doubt it is not XMPP

even n900's yet old jabber client supports voip... we tried it 4-5 days after we got our devices...

Skype on a phone is nice to have but skype's netcode is so bad that it is a real battery drainer...

If you really want to talk about fancy stuff talk about stuff noone needs but everyone wants... like apple does all the time. I don't want fancy apps... I want access to all hardware so one of us can do whatever they like doing - I want simple API access to 'all' closed source parts! Looking at the android market... I want a filter for removing all apps from view where someone gave 5 stars with a <6 word comment...
Just read "everything in python" - I want sane people writing proper C,C#,C++ code and not even a single brainless python app and don't even think about that java crap.

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I second that request. The sheer stupidity of owning a Linux based N900 as well as an N9 and not being able to sync my calendars with my Linux desktop, well, that's just embarrassing...

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I would like to see what everyone is suggesting, plus a personal finance app, the one I use on my N9 is called mobifinance and it works amazingly well

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Who deleted my suggestions? Its already going the wrong way if criticism can not be tolerated.

To repeat myself, its the small things that will make or break Jolla. General users are used to certain things and unless provided as a base flwlessky and smoothly working package, it will not work.

1. Systemwide fonts have to be built in. N9 was a step backward from N900.
2. IM lacked automatic change ij away status and ability to adjust it.
3. Both N9 and N900 would be unresponsive when charging.
4. Keyboard was not good, and I kept hitting period all the time incidentally.
5. Text correction and prediction for English was awful. Text input has to be perfect as everyone is uses to other smooth OSs.
6. GPS was a joke as well as navigation, needs huge update.
7. Web browser like microb on n900 was great,compete disaster on N9
8. Cloud back up and storage needed. Dropbox needed.
9. N9 had the worst ever email client I used. Needs a complete revamp. Look at WP8 for inspiration.

The bottom line is that Jolla has not shown us how the basics perform. For me, if the basic functions are not flawless, the general user will avoid it.
10.

2.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Uhhh .. Many typos, meant to say systemwide ability to change font sizes. Very important for middle age and older folks.

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one thing I like about Android is that the sharing is system wide. I can share so many things to any applications I want to. Sure I can copy and paste but sometimes its just annoying as hell.

lumiaman actually had a good idea about the basics, whats everyone's basics, like core functionality.

for me I just want a good phone, that I can browse comfortably on, take alright pictures for Facebook, I mean there in nightclubs so? decent email push. decent battery life(this is a mass one for me). I like to use the phone heavily lol. If possible the temperature of the phone to stay low.

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Me! I was just lazy, do you want me to edit (instead of deleting it) the lastone this time? Or do you stop the rant yourself? This thread is not about pointing fingers - we all know that you like WP even more than your mother and that you think Maemo is a waste of time so why bother? You could write "You know my opinion!" by now to get people jump you... Write what you "like" to see... I am pretty fed with you by now and I am much more calm than people like me to be. So surprise me with intelligence and community heart!

I don't go into WP or Droid forums and start fighting about their BS operating systems and I know android/JB for a month now and already like to imaging managing google developers drowning or spill jetfuel over them and say "have a nice day" while flicking a lit match at them...

back to topic
so a burn'a'droid app would be nice!

EDIT: this kind of thread is started every time we get something new... with the same results with the same rants just different people as the lads from last time learned their lessons

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I'll try... no promises.

Since they're using MeeGo, you'd have to assume that they would see how folks were applauding the integration of communication (Skype especially), social media (Twitter in notifications? Genius) and alerts - from the standby screen to the notifications screen. That level of integration can/should be seen as only the start. That's one part of my statements... I want that but with updated protocols and social media (App.net for instance).

One would hope so.

Integrated would be fine with me. But stand alone apps make the user experience too "me too" in my opinion.

PM or BBM. Either way, I'm hopeful I clarified my position but willing to explain further if need be. But I would love to see them take the experience on my N9 and extend it. A better e-mail client and experience... Twitter + App.net + Skype (w/ video) + Google Hangouts (w/ video) + Google Calendar + Dropbox integration or personal cloud integration.

That integration from day one or in an upcoming upgrade would seal the deal for me. But that's a lot of ecosystems to traverse and integrate.

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As a previous owner of N9 and N900, I am pointing out what applications are necessary to work smoothly at the baseline for the masses to love it. By not criticizing what was obviously wrong, no one will move forward. I suspect you are a little bit mentally unstable, and I suggest you give up the power, who ever gave it to you, to delete factual threads. Your response shows immaturity and fanboyism that will not help anyone.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Pot? Kettle? Being a fan of something isn't that bad of a thing - it's allowed. Your fandom is allowed, no? As is mine - which is pretty much all over the place.

Anyway, just keep it to conversation. Not attacks. Or personal agendas.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Gerb, address this with chemist. Thank you.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I get your point; now please get mine. If nothing was incendiary in the post(s), the edits would have not been done. Regardless, this is my last time addressing anything on this subject as it's not Sailfish OS, Jolla or anything as such related.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

See continued discussion here, to avoid the involved off-topic in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90253

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

For my id like to have as part from Sailfish-OS, not as an App

1. VPN IPSEC Support for VPN-Accesspoint to my Router Fritz!Box (like in Nokia E71)
2. OS-Encryption + SD-Encryption (like in Nokia E71)

I had it on my Nokia E71. Was the best Symbian Phone i had. The E72 was one step back (bad Sip-Support)
The N9 never had VPN-Support nor Encryption as part from Meego.

Anyway for now my N9 is my best Phone (the E71 is still my Backup) ;)

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1. yeah a nice to have and not a must have...
2. might be needed but most of the time on-offline are enough states to be automated, even though people think others are important... like away... if you are gone go offline!
3. N900 never did that to me after some of the PRs, N9 does it only on one wallcharger I have and that is a design flaw and not a software issue...
4. lol wurstfingers
5. like iphone autocompletion where I get most of the time unreadable text
6. wfm, supl.nokia.com might be your problem... change to something else
7. you should reconsider your facts
8. you definetely need to reconsider... linux phones need linux solutions not some garbage cloud service you should not trust one of them... 3rd party clouds are a security risk
9. you never used android or iphone did you?

you want your garbage stay and tell me off as insane, you can have that in public if you want to. (I know this is troll feeding and I should punish myself for that... if anyone has a problem with me needing blow off some steam let me know please)

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Exactly my idea. In 2009 I would have written not acceptable but today such a defense of Skype has grown more unacceptable.

On my favorite devices I saw Skype evolve:

-Announce strategic partnership with Nokia to preload skype on high end Nokia's (Barcelona 2009)
-full video call in 2010 (N900)
-no more video call in 2011 (N9)
-Microsoft Spyware in 2012 with less love to be expected for other platforms if and once WP gets more powerful

(lets not talk about the fun Skype adds on PC that are supposed to "stimulate meaningful conversations about the products between family and friends")


-Meanwhile Skype can help microsoft to match your credit card identity with Bing searches, your email identity, maps location and what else. Don't give it to them without a fight. It is your right and that of every internet user to get paid for the valuable dots of information you allow them to connect. A free calling service is not enough as payment because there are alternatives that don't spy on you.

My advice is: demand for XMPP, dump Skype quickly (I am working on it).

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ste-phan: I agree, but let's continue IM related discussions in the dedicated thread please: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90253
This one should better focus on applications for Sailfish.

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An app that spies on you just like all the other apps but returns you money for that.

Maybe these guys may go life on mobile.
https://www.yesprofile.com/

Just thinking about (while complaining about Spype) it and somebody already invented it or is busy inventing it. :)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

looks like there is ALOT of apps for developers to port and make some money on.

But next questions would be if people is willing to pay even if app is open?

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Been busy emailing devs to see where they're at with porting apps:

Marxian is busy cleaning up code with a view to porting cutetube and Musikcloud to Sailfish in the near future

Le bien cuong who developed Call Recorder intends to port his application across as soon as he gets a device

I&N Mobisoft intend to port their products across

I'm trolling the Ovi store and slowly sending out emails to devs to see where they're at.

If anyone here has apps they intend to port, and you want people to know, feel free to PM me, and I'll update the first post with info.

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I'll pay good money for good applications.

Hoping that Jolla can either set up their own or piggyback on to hacking workshops to help devs.This worked very well for BB , as evidenced by some of the media releases. 12k apps ported and submitted in one weekend session alone as i recall.

Waiting until Qt Dev Days at the end of the year, doesn't leave much time for QA before product launch IMO

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That leads me to the idea, that it would be nice if the Jolla store contained official support for sending donations. All my applications are open source and distributed for free - I just like them to be as widely available as possible.

And while they all have donation buttons in the respective About page in the application (PayPal, Flattr & Bitcoin :) ), not everyone has PayPal/Flattr or Bitcoin account, which might not be even available in their respective country and users are also not very likely to get it just to send a small tip to a favorite developer.

On the other hand, the store could either use carrier billing and/or a paired credit card, thus making donations quite a lot less painful for the users. Even if Jolla took a cut, it would still be IMHO a net benefit.

An example of this being already used somewhere could be the Mozilla Addons page, that has a built-in button for sending donations to Firefox Extension authors. It uses PayPal, but at least it is built-in.

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PLEASE NOTE
I am now updating the application request list in the original post with info from Developers, to advise of any plans or current status for SailfishOS ports.

DEVS
please PM me with any info you would like to share, so I can update accordingly.

I will be in touch with Jolla today to ask if they are willing to confirm/provide any info regarding core applications and functionality
Please understand that information from Jolla will be entirely based on what they are prepared to share form a commercial persepctive, and is based on the current confirmed information regarding hardware specs etc.

Regards

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

MeeRun will be ported to SailfishOS
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=154

Gpodder Port
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysXB_ZfilDI

Tweetian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il3n_AUEbZE

MeeSpot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMJ6oq1EUY0

Bitpurse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_L2w-92OY


And for reference:
Unofficial Sailfish OS third party open source apps collection

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Thanks mate, will update now

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Gigwalk, BofA, and an FM radio app that doesn't eat the battery quickly. Can there be any way to get am radio stations?

Would like to be able to play stuff like worldwinner games on my phone.
Bring the mouse cursor from the corner back, remember the N900.

Need flash in browser as tons of websites use it. If no flash need flash to work in alien dalvik and I'll use dolphin browser from android.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

will wazapp be ported to sailfish? Anyone has contact the dev?

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Billboard app by thp for standby screen..if there would be one.
and a document viewer cum editor

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As Sailfish OS is a mobile Linux OS, I hope it has/will have :
- a good X Terminal;
- File Manager;
- full TeX/LaTeX compiler (TeXLive, etc), as well as some text editor (from community) with TeX/LaTeX support;
- many packages from Linux (OpenSuse, Fedora, etc), so it will be just a matter of creating a good GUI interface for some sophisticaded and specific library/software (programming language, scientific tool, etc) not available to non-Linux mobile OS;

So, no more dumbed down OS which try to reinvent the wheel, but instead a Linux mobile (Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch) using 30-40 years of Unix/Linux development.

Part of the items above can be provided my Mer and/or Nemo, contributed by Jolla and the community.

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veskumaps, google maps client, the dev says yes as soon soon he has free time.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Vesku Hartikainen, the dev of Veskumaps is working at Jolla, so wouldn't it be logical that Sailfish default map app would be based on Veskumaps? Or if they are using a different map provider then maybe not...

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Truly don't know, but I've added it in the Apps list and marked it up accordingly.
The more the better. :D

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

add to the list:
Prayer times (for muslim people)
and Compass app that shows the direction to Mecca

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

- Wifi drivers for monitor mode.
- Aircrack, Metasploit.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

forget the faircrack should be included in the first post

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Have contacted the open whatsapp team for confirmation