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I have a Jolla and I can confirm:

* Working great on AT&T for 2G.
* None of the UTMS bands the phone supports are available, so 3G/LTE is no-go.
* The input language is listed as English (UK) but based on my cursory inspection, the auto-completion will provide American English suggestions (e.g. color vs colour).

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Thanks for the confirmation. 2G was expected to work and 3G wasn't. LTE isn't even enabled yet, and we still don't know which LTE frequencies the device supports.

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There was this @Jollahq today

"Jolla supports 900 & 2100 MHz for 3G."

According to Wikipedia no North American network supports those. Those bands cover all of Europe, Australia & Africa, almost every Asian network and some of Latin America, but obviously not much help for canadians and americans.

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Ironically, newer Qualcomm modems are already universal and support all frequencies without segmenting them. We'll have to wait for Jolla to release the next model in a couple of years. Or if they'll decide, they'll release a modified version for the American users.

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I would personally be willing to pay more for a version with a newer modem that would allow me to use it in the US and Asia. Any idea what the qualcomm modem they have supports for LTE frequencies which they should be enabling with a later software update?

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Jolla probably knows what LTE frequencies are supported in the hardware, but they didn't publish that info yet. May be Qualcomm has common variations of those modems? Than you just need to properly identify it.

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Jolla phone in my hand at the moment in Texas. Only able to connect to T-mobile - 2G. I tried a H20 wireless SIM and still only 2G. Missing the UMTS 850 mhz by the looks of it. Last hope is LTE but I am doubtful that it will work when they update the sailfish software to allow for LTE. If that turns out to be the case sadfully I may have a jolla phone on ebay shortly thereafter. It would be a sad day as I am also a proud a N900 and an N9 owner.

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That sucks, but with that said, why not hold out and see what happens?

I truly doubt the current chipset will support our LTE bands - the GSM bands don't work - but it was not a phone for use in the North American market as-is...

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Re: Australia

I'm happy to report my Jolla is working on Virgin Mobile 3G (Optus). I just had to manually configure the access point.

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Relevant news to this thread: supported frequencies of the Jolla phone have been officially published in jolla.com

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does it mean australian telstar 3g work?

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Don't know, you should find the frequencies they support from somewhere, maybe google it?

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I think they may release a quad-band 3g version later (850/900/1900/2100) for use in the rest of the world. The current phone seems tailored for Europe ONLY :(

I miss these things from Nokia (pentaband wcdma in N8/N9), they knew how to make world phones.

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Nope.

The 3G bands support all networks in Europe and Africa, almost all GSM networks in Asia and Oceania, plus some of the networks in latin America.

Only north America is really totally excluded. Canadian networks seem to use partially european standard bands on LTE, so at least hope for canadians, if Jolla ever gets the advertised LTE support working.

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900/2100 WCDMA only? I don't mean to rag on them because they likely had to cut costs somewhere and I'd assume it's not easy to procure higher-end radios without being a major distributor, but as an american that is so 2007 ;)

It's boggling why they chose to not give out this information on their website until yesterday.

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This information was available for a quite some time already, but not on the site though.

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Nothing has changed since my previous answer on 8th Dec. There's no support for Telstra's 850 MHz 3G so coverage would be limited, also for calls & SMS because on many areas there's no 2G. Of course in cities and some towns even on Telstra there would be 2G, possibly still 2100 MHz 3G and in the future LTE support.

EDIT: Telstra has officially shut down the 2100 MHz 3G network it shared with another operator, however it may also have its own 3G sites that could still be active. There are reports even from 2013 that 2100 MHz 3G still works in some places. Whatever the case, coverage would be limited at best.

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btw, it's Telstra ! ;)

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Yea, my bad, I forgot that Asia and EU have similar bands for 2G and 3G. This means only North America is excluded at this point. Not that it will hurt Jolla, as there is a wider market out there outside North America, but its a sad thing for us in the USA. :(

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I added a request for official support to TJC, please vote: https://together.jolla.com/question/...north-america/

There is also a request to support frequencies at least: https://together.jolla.com/question/...g-frequencies/

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I don't think there's any point in doing this until they have the capability to both make a device that works for the american market AND market it in some way. It would have been nice to at least support 850/1900 3G, at least for the enthusiasts (who would be the only ones buying this device here anyway.)

Unfortunately leaving us out for this initial launch was the right move, it's still relatively unknown online and has a chance at better first impressions if Jolla survives long enough to make their device and software better.

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There is always a point to demonstrate demand, so vote if you care. They easily can have the capabilities (they can just use the proper modem in the next batch). I don't think hardware is an issue for them, but legal threats are.

Not sure whether it was right or wrong, but it's not based on any demand, but rather on risks. I'd expect the level of demand in US to be not lower than in Europe. The device now is used mostly by enthusiasts anyway and general public has no clue about Jolla, whether in Europe or elsewhere, and Jolla are OK with that, while it fits their production capacity. When Jolla will decide to change that, they'll pour more resources in marketing.

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I agree. Making some noise about USA support will help them steer their efforts. We should remember that even though N9 was not officially sold in USA, its included HSPA on 850/1700/1900 in its pentaband setup, which helped it sell a huge numbers of units in USA, even if unofficially.

EDIT: Put my vote together.jolla.com. :) :(

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Sorry if I missed it. Will Jolla phone work on T-Mobile in US for phone calls. Perhaps one option would be to use sim card for phone calls only and get data seperately via mobile wifi unit. Seems like a pain but folks often carry a tablet with them that uses the mobile wifi. Some wifi is not too expensive. Also would sms work via this route? Thanks!

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Yes. Quad-band GSM + EDGE. Remember the original iPhone? Welcome to 2007!

(posting this with Opera browser on Elisa's 2G, world's first GSM network by the way, launched in July 1991)

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Hi Guys,

Its been awhile since I've been on here. Been thinking about buying a Jolla device off of EBay until I read about connection issues here in the USA. I'm on ATT and have spoiled with LTE on my 1020. So if I'm understanding this correctly on ATT I'd only get 2g edge speeds? If so I'm very bummed as I was looking forward to a N9 replacement. Is this LTE software upgrade true and would that help ATT US users?

Thanks!

Sean

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it has been speculated that the LTE frequencies for the jolla are 800/1800/2600
the at&t US LTE frequencies are 700/1700/1900/2300

afaik, no, unless the speculation is wrong {which it easily could be}, or they plan on swapping out the modem for US versions
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note that no other carrier in US uses those bands for LTE. {not that its relevant, but i think sprint uses 800MHZ}

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note that the Neo900 WILL in fact have 4G LTE in the US and will, in many ways, be better than a jolla. {though neo900 is worse in other ways, e.g.: single core, more expensive}

the Neo900 is my current N9 replacement plan, partly because of LTE in the US.

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I see that the LTE frequency for MetroPCS in the US is 1900mhz, could that possibly work for the Jolla?

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Nope sorry.

"LTE: Bands 3 (1800 MHz), 7 (2600 MHz), 20 (800 MHz)"
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/417589573175488513
https://together.jolla.com/question/...pa-compatible/

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Thank you for that response. What about the sprint 800mhz? Is that definitely out as well?

I am in the US and bought a jolla phone which I absolutely LOVE, but unfortunately 2g is all that is available. If the the phone will not work on sprint, looks like I will be putting it up on ebay unfortunately.

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Crap. I'll be the bearer of bad news, again! The right frequency, but wrong in everything following the radio signal. That american network is using the Chinese flavor LTE. In laymans terms, Jolla phone would pick up the radio waves but wouldn't know what to do with the signal.

Not really wanting to bust the balls of my fellow human beigns on the other side of the Atlantic, but as far as Jolla is concerned:

You're screwed on 3G and only the ones who know how to play hockey will get relief on 4G.

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I might consider buying it. Where abouts do you live?

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I am in Maryland. I really love the sailfish OS, I would consider trading the jolla for a 64gb N9 running sailfish if anyone is interested.

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Well, this is getting interesting! I live near Gaitherburg MD. If you do not live too far away I'd love to take a look and see how it works regardless. I actually have an N9 but I could never part with it even though I don't use it anymore. Same with my n900. I could be wrong but my impression is that as the updates continue for Sailfish OS it might get harder to port to N9 so you might consider keeping it if you want a device that is up to date. The 2G aspect has kept me from buying till now but I decided if I did buy it, it would be for tinkering around with and just using wifi for data. I have a friend in Switzerland that can pick one up for me so there is no rush. Right now I'm waiting to see what happens at MWC and whether progress is made porting to Nexus 4 or 5. But if you really want to part with it and it is in verg good condition I might consider buying it.

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That's crazy you two are in Maryland. I live in Pennsylvania roughly 30mins from the Maryland border. Small world! I have a brand new in the box spare N9 that I have only booted a few times. I don't know if I could part with it though :)

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Its perfect condition, just took it out of the box yesterday. Its an amazing phone. 2g is tough tho

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hi justadude. There were a few of us n9 enthusiasts in the greater DC area that purchased the n9 despite the lack of support form nokia. About two years ago there was a meetup in Rockville MD. It was really informative and fun. Who knows. Maybe in 6 months or so there can be a meetup for the Jolla phone owners and Sailfish users if there is enough success with porting to other devices!

Here is a link to the meet up thread. The last page has some pics of our n9s

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=rockville


@tsfak For now I don't think I could pay more than $300. So you are likely better off trying ebay...

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There was some meetup for N9/N950 users planned in NY as well, but I think it didn't happen in the end.

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Having just received my Jolla the answer is yes it can be used in the United States. No you will not have 3G or 4G/LTE service for data. But I do not need it since I have my hotspot with me all the time.