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cvp 2015-01-06 11:04

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meldolion (Post 1455499)
An account plugin for telegram is better than a separated app! that is the right way of doing it. thx

yes! thats true, but than without Picture/video send/receive feature is not so good :(

TemeV 2015-01-06 20:14

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1455516)
yes! thats true, but than without Picture/video send/receive feature is not so good :(

All in due time, I'm sure these will be implemented eventually, but for nice ux some help from Jolla is also needed.

cvp 2015-01-09 15:38

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
you see how jolla help us in xmpp and more...... nothing!

TemeV 2015-02-03 21:03

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
I made some hacking and now I can also receive and send group messages with telepathy. They are just "converted" to normal messages. As a negative side they also show up in the phone book as normal contacts, but it doesn't bother me too much.

This is still far from ready, Android app is needed for sending/receiving pictures etc, but at least I can get reliable notifications of messages.

Here is my github branch with the group message hack:
https://github.com/TemeV/telepathy-m...SailfisOsHacks

nthn 2015-02-03 22:01

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Would it be possible to implement that kind of hack for XMPP as well?

TemeV 2015-02-04 06:48

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1459458)
Would it be possible to implement that kind of hack for XMPP as well?

I can't think of a reason why not.

Jedibeeftrix 2015-03-24 13:56

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
interesting update:

https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.co...e-is-going-on/

paolomi 2015-04-29 11:59

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TemeV (Post 1459453)
This is still far from ready, Android app is needed for sending/receiving pictures etc, but at least I can get reliable notifications of messages.

Hi, could you provide the rpm, please? I'm curious but I'm not able to compile it by myself. Many thanks :)

claustn 2015-05-28 15:47

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
anything for Harmattan? With Meefox and HeliumReborn it function, but i can't scroll the messages, so i can see only the newest.
Someone that could translate that? http://aseman.co/en/products/cutegram/

Thaodan 2015-05-28 16:57

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
I read in the qml code of the messenger app that there's code for group chat so this isn't finished?

paolomi 2015-07-07 11:47

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paolomi (Post 1468846)
Hi, could you provide the rpm, please? I'm curious but I'm not able to compile it by myself. Many thanks :)

I'm no more interested in telepathy-morse: now I'm testing this new app and it looks promising.

TemeV 2015-07-08 18:13

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paolomi (Post 1475910)
I'm no more interested in telepathy-morse: now I'm testing this new app and it looks promising.

It seems I've forgotten to answer your request for an rpm. Sorry about that :) Anyway, Jolla-messages app is still so broken that telepathy-morse is not much use. And Morse it self is also lacking media sending etc. quite essential things with modern instant messenger.

Please let us know how SailorGram works :)

strobovalo 2015-09-23 00:03

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
I tried Sailogram and... if i try to open the app 10 times, the app runs only one time with some luck, is always connecting and never ends.

Anyone with the same issue or know how fix it?

Thanks.

Dax 2015-09-23 09:21

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strobovalo (Post 1483403)
I tried Sailogram and... if i try to open the app 10 times, the app runs only one time with some luck, is always connecting and never ends.

Anyone with the same issue or know how fix it?

Thanks.

Did you have tried to reset SailorGram by deleting the folder named "harbour-sailorgram" located in /home/nemo/.local/share ?

As I wrote in OpenRepos, I will fix those login issues in 0.8 :)

strobovalo 2015-09-23 20:21

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
I tried to uninstall and install only but i will try this, thank you =)

PS: i have a problem, i dont have .local on my nemo folder.

PS2: solved i had activated the hidden folders on.

Dax 2015-09-23 20:39

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Install/Uninstall doesn't work because Sailfish leaves application settings in .local/share, the only way that I know in order to reset an application is to delete its settings manually.

Yes, ".local" is an hidden folder :)

strobovalo 2015-09-23 21:44

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
@Dax

Harbour-sailorgram is deleted but im in the same situation, if click on connect again Sailorgram closed automatically.

Dax 2015-09-24 05:30

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Can you try to execute sailorgram from terminal and post here the last part of the log?

strobovalo 2015-09-24 19:42

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
With some instructions of course =)

Dax 2015-09-25 05:27

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Look here:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...d-collect-log/

strobovalo 2015-09-25 19:40

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
These are the last four lines of the log:

[D] inboundPkt::fetchInt:89 - fetchInt() 2 ( "0x2" )
[D] InboundPkt::fetchInt:89 - fetchInt() 17 ( "0x11" )
[W] Session::workBadMsgNotification:457 - workBadMsgNotification: msgId = 6198539729785323520 , seqNo = 2 , errorCode = 17

Dax 2015-09-26 07:20

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Mmmmh, error code 17 means that your local time is ahead compared to Telegram local time.

Sailorgram 0.7x uses Cutegram libraries, and, for some reason it doesn't re-sync using the correct delta (client_local_time - telegram_local_time).

This should be fixed in 0.8 which is under development (I have tried with different timezones and the new library always re-sync time delta).

(Sometimes this issue happens if you have set a wrong timezone + localime in your Jolla phone)

strobovalo 2015-09-26 20:35

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Then i wait for the 0.8 version, thank you for the explanation and the efforts with Sailorgram.

PS: Sailorgram work only the first time after turning on the phone, the rest of times never connect... if this can help.

pagis 2015-09-26 21:11

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
works ok on my Jolla, only from time to time drops connection, I use automatic update in Settings->Time and date.

strobovalo 2015-10-02 20:38

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Sailorgram runs ok with automatic time zone... now i receive notifications ramdomly but Sailorgram dont have many options to manage... any ideas?

TemeV 2015-11-17 20:18

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
If here is some brave soul interested in Telepathy-Morse aka Telegram connection manager for Telepathy, I've now built everything needed for using it with Sailfish. RPMs are available in obs
http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:...atest_armv7hl/ and sources in my github https://github.com/TemeV?tab=repositories

You have to install all the packages in that repo. If I've set requirements right enabling the repo and installing telepathy-morse should install all the other packages also. Morse requires TelepathyQt version 0.9.6.1 and it requires the rest of the packages.

Logging in with Morse doesn't work with Sailfish so I made a small app to fix that. Use Morse-login app to log in first and then you can start using Morse itself. Use mc-tool with command line to set up the account. Integration to accounts UI is also coming at some point.

sHaggY_caT 2015-12-25 16:45

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
What is the best Telegram native client for Sailfish OS?

eekkelund 2015-12-25 21:01

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sHaggY_caT (Post 1492650)
What is the best Telegram native client for Sailfish OS?

Sailorgram!!
:)

NASDAQ 2016-01-24 11:24

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Since whatsup is out of order until next update, are there any news for us user of sailorgram? I think, I want to switch completely to telegram, because of the personal-data-policiy of f****** FB...

ZogG 2016-01-24 11:47

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NASDAQ (Post 1496118)
Since whatsup is out of order until next update, are there any news for us user of sailorgram? I think, I want to switch completely to telegram, because of the personal-data-policiy of f****** FB...

I just want to tell you that if privacy is important to you, should know that creator of Telegram is the same person that created VK which is russian analog of FB (which he btw sold out).
And that if yo ucare about your data - it's not the best practice to use centralized server(not your server) based messaging.

itdoesntmatt 2016-01-24 12:11

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
yes but however is better than whatsapp

pagis 2016-01-24 12:18

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
at least it allows 3rd party clients to work, which is better than WA

cvp 2016-01-24 14:55

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
and dont forget .... telegram use us server... dont know why he do that

billranton 2016-01-24 15:38

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1496121)
I just want to tell you that if privacy is important to you, should know that creator of Telegram is the same person that created VK which is russian analog of FB (which he btw sold out).
And that if yo ucare about your data - it's not the best practice to use centralized server(not your server) based messaging.

You mean VK was seized from him after he refused to let Putin spy on everyone, and he's now living in exile?

ZogG 2016-01-24 16:17

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1496144)
You mean VK was seized from him after he refused to let Putin spy on everyone, and he's now living in exile?

By seized you mean that he sold it for a lot of $$$?
And if he would be in exile what exactly stopped him to move it to other country where no one would be able to control it, same as any other project that was closed in russia and registered abroad to keep living.
Or you think he is a good guy and he made free social network and did not use user information as source of income?

if someone has your data and can use it as he wants - there are no good or bad guys, just those that have your private info they can use as they desire :)

Edit:
I'm not saying not to use whatsapp or telegram. I actually use the first one. I'm just telling that people should stop lying about privacy if they use any of those and there is no "less evil" thing.
If you care you can check TOX or other decentralized project.

billranton 2016-01-24 16:52

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
From what I heard, the board suddenly removed him from his position when he refused to comply. He lost control of vk and was replaced by some friend of Putin.

ZogG 2016-01-24 21:23

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1496153)
From what I heard, the board suddenly removed him from his position when he refused to comply. He lost control of vk and was replaced by some friend of Putin.

He sold his % for some money

billranton 2016-01-24 22:00

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1496188)
He sold his % for some money

After he'd been fired, and had no further role or control of the company.

NASDAQ 2016-01-25 12:07

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
It is very astonishing, how fast the question "Are there News about new Version of Sailorgram" leads into the discussion about the trustworthiness of telegram and its owner. As far as i can tell telegram is better than whatsapp, due to their permission to biuld 3rd party clients. I'm not saying, nor am I thinking, that telegram is the best option for secure IM, but it is the best option for me and the better option compared to WA, because people in my contactlist, who are not into the PC-Stuff and such things can use it like WA and Sailorgram is not under pressure from the company of its service like WU is from FB.

We know, there are better ways for secure IM, but, like some other user of this forum put it (can't remember who exactly), 100% security in a comfortably usable way is not possible, so that the lazy DAU can also us it ...

So let's end the discussion about the security of telegram and come back to my question, when a Update of Sailorgram is expected.

fravaccaro 2016-01-25 12:49

Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
After the last update, the developer has been releasing some betas on the Telegram group (which makes sense) so, albeit there's no ETA, Dax is actively working on it.


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