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reinob 2015-03-14 10:12

Re: [Announce] Linguine - News & Politics from around the world
 
@Copernicus,

I had completely forgotten about Linguine and I now realized that a long time ago you even implemented The Old Reader!

I apologize for now having noticed it, and I THANK YOU for having done this. I have just installed 0.4.0 and will test it immediately!

Copernicus 2015-03-14 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1464024)
I apologize for now having noticed it, and I THANK YOU for having done this. I have just installed 0.4.0 and will test it immediately!

Well, I have to admit that I have not been testing it much myself, so please do expect that there will need to be quite a bit of improvements needed before it becomes a really usable RSS reader. :)

Also, there's a version 0.4.2 going up now, to fix an item I missed in version 0.4.1. :)

And let me go ahead and add a screenshot of the new widget layout:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jp...ineWidget2.png

reinob 2015-03-14 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1464025)
Well, I have to admit that I have not been testing it much myself, so please do expect that there will need to be quite a bit of improvements needed before it becomes a really usable RSS reader. :)

Well I can't seem to make it work :(

It asks me for e-mail and password, but then AFAIK tries to authenticate using google authenticator (which wouldn't need the password). I tried with username and password but the same happens.

I see "All items" but when I tap on it nothing happens.

Unfortunately I have no time to debug today, but I'll have a look when I can.
Cheers and thanks again!

Android_808 2015-03-14 10:31

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With regards to offline, would it not be easier to just cache headlines when they are updated. When app is opened when offline, just show a notification that connection is needed to update and then just present the cached info.

xes 2015-03-14 10:50

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@Copernicus

Maybe this could help:
http://developer.nokia.com/community...ion_in_Maemo_5
http://developer.nokia.com/community...th_Qt_Mobility

nokiabot 2015-03-14 12:20

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mmm just headers for offline ?
Cant it be header + content like one can download latest 70 news articles and read them later and images upon request even better idea long click anywhere select save for offline reading also needed would be font adjustments background colour selection maybe and alittle sane formatting i.e double click to zoom fit .
You know better

Copernicus 2015-03-14 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1464028)
With regards to offline, would it not be easier to just cache headlines when they are updated. When app is opened when offline, just show a notification that connection is needed to update and then just present the cached info.

and

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1464035)
mmm just headers for offline ?

I can do that; but would that really be useful? :) I guess I'm still thinking of Linguine as mainly a way to get the latest news... I suppose I could try to store data for later use (although I would imagine I'd only want to do that with text data; I don't really think Linguine should be trying to manage huge media files).

(BTW, is there a good example for me to look at here? I guess I should probably study some existing RSS readers a bit more, if Linguine should move in that direction...)

@xes: Thanks! I see that the policy in that second link is pretty much to have the app close itself if the net is not available. That's along the lines of what I was thinking; but I guess I'll first see if I can come up with a decent mechanism to cache some data...

Copernicus 2015-03-14 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1464027)
Well I can't seem to make it work :(

Drat, same here. :( I was able to authenticate just fine a couple of months ago, but I'm not really a TOR user, so I just haven't really been using it. Let me dig into it again and see what is going on...

ch88xy 2015-05-27 13:30

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For someone reading foreign language news, Linguine has one big advantage over the built-in rss reader: the convenient copy-paste function. I am using this together with QStarDict to read several languages.

For the author of the app: how about adding Tagesschau video clips? You can find the links here:

http://www.tagesschau.de/infoservice...ast/index.html

Another good rss feed would be NHK news in Japanese:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/rss/news/cat0.xml

Copernicus 2015-05-27 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ch88xy (Post 1471649)
For the author of the app: how about adding Tagesschau video clips? You can find the links here:

http://www.tagesschau.de/infoservice...ast/index.html

Another good rss feed would be NHK news in Japanese:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/rss/news/cat0.xml

Let me add those in! I've been letting Linguine languish for a while now; I really do need to get some more work done on it. :)

BTW, if you can't wait for me, and don't mind getting your hands dirty with some XML code, you can create a Linguine xml file yourself and load it into the app. For these two items, the syntax would be something like this:

Code:

<newsfeed
 url="http://www.tagesschau.de/export/video-podcast/tagesschau/"
 frequency="daily"
 media="video">
 <name>Deutschlands erfolgreichste Nachrichtensendung als Video-Podcast</name>
 <tag>news</tag>
</newsfeed>

<newsfeed
 url="http://www3.nhk.or.jp/rss/news/cat0.xml"
 frequency="other"
 media="text">
 <name>NHKニュース</name>
 <tag>news</tag>
</newsfeed>

EDIT: You can find a complete Linguine xml file here:

http://jpietrzak8.github.io/Linguine/newsfeeds.xml

ch88xy 2015-05-27 15:17

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Excellent! Many thanks!!!

BlazingBird 2015-05-29 20:44

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@Copernicus. If you are still working on improving the UI or icons, I can be of help. Let me know that bro.

Copernicus 2015-05-29 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingBird (Post 1471879)
@Copernicus. If you are still working on improving the UI or icons, I can be of help. Let me know that bro.

Well, I've been slowly studying up on UI and icon policies for Sailfish and Android, so I have been making a little progress. I now have tools (like Inkscape) with which I can create resolution-independent graphics, and I know some of the basics of UI layout and such.

My problem, as always, is that I am no artist. ;) While I can generate a complete UI with a full set of icons, I can't really make it look good. So, I could always use help with that. :)

(BTW, I should note that I'm planning to completely revamp Linguine's current UI; there's no need to just throw raw lists of data on the screen, and I want to provide the ability to refresh (and possibly store) the retrieved newsfeed data...)

BlazingBird 2015-05-29 21:36

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well if you are willing to change the look and feel then i can help you out. you must be familiar with yapparis new icon that i designed and some of my suggestions for its UI and a quick reply widget. So i do wanna add my artistic skills as m a professional graphic designer. so let me know if i could be of any help.. :-) cheers.

Copernicus 2015-05-29 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingBird (Post 1471889)
well if you are willing to change the look and feel then i can help you out.

Ah, well, a lot of my apps are still in flux right now. :) But, I would say, the app that is crying out the most for a new, more usable UI would be Orecchiette. You might take a look at that one first, and see what you think might be some good design improvements for it...

Quote:

you must be familiar with yapparis new icon that i designed
:o I have to admit, I'm not a social media kind of guy. So, I've never actually used Yappari (or, for that matter, Whatsapp). I'll do some reading to try and catch up with the current status of that project...

BlazingBird 2015-05-29 22:07

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okay.. cool. what il do is ill install Orecchiette and see if i can come out with some good suggestive design. ill post the same in its respective thread so we can have the discussion. we can start with that for now and later switch to linguine.. :-)

BlazingBird 2015-05-29 22:13

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checkout this thread. is it possible if you can make smething like this widget. it would be a great help.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95486

ch88xy 2015-05-30 18:05

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@Copernicus,

Where are the app files stored? I don't see a folder called Linguine anywhere.

Copernicus 2015-05-30 18:24

Re: [Announce] Linguine - News & Politics from around the world
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ch88xy (Post 1471974)
Where are the app files stored? I don't see a folder called Linguine anywhere.

The default newsfeeds XML file is stored internally, in a Qt Resource file. If you create your own newsfeeds file, you can put it anywhere you want; then, go to the menu and select "Load Newsfeeds File", and navigate to where it is stored on your device...

Copernicus 2015-05-30 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingBird (Post 1471893)
checkout this thread. is it possible if you can make smething like this widget. it would be a great help.

Ah, I fought and fought and fought last year trying to squeeze news info into a widget. There are two problems with this: one, it is incredibly painful trying to display multiple sentences of text readably in a widget. Even if you give it half of the screen (as you've done with that yappari widget mockup), it's still not terribly comfortable to read. But, you could in theory get around this by treating the widget as a "window" on the underlying text and allowing the user to scroll through the data. But then we bump up against:

Two, Maemo only provides very limited user interaction with widgets. You can't use any dragging gestures, because those are tied up with moving between multiple desktops. So, you can't flick or scroll the data by hand. :( Also, you can't let the user hold a button down for a period of time, because long presses are reserved for bringing up the "Desktop Menu". So, you can't scroll the data in front of the user while they are pressing an "up" or "down" button. The only interface available is quickly clicking a button; so, the user would need to keep clicking and clicking and clicking to move through a set of data. :(

For the moment, I've limited the Linguine widget to simply displaying the info for a single audio or video podcast item. This limits the amount of data needed to be displayed, and when the user clicks on the widget, the podcast is sent to the default media player. So, that makes things very easy. :) But yeah, I'm quite willing to add more to it, if there's a reasonable way to display the data...

BlazingBird 2015-05-30 18:55

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I agree. I am not aware of the overall maemo guidelines for a widget. The whole idea was to implement a short and quick messaging system if you are in a hurry or wanna reply quick. Now its upto you guys to make it possible under the guidelines of the Os. Thats why i posted as a concept.


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