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- - Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2 (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96615)

explit

2016-07-13 18:17

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I tried the alpha2 image (Sailfish 2.0.1.11) on my FP2, its amazing!
The alpha1 was absolutely useful, but alpha2 is again a bit better. Fairphone 2 feels like a very fast Jolla Phone with FullHD DIsplay.

Lets hope we get official image with 2.0.2.xx and DualSIM-Support.

Personally, i can live withou alien-dalvik and exchange, i also have a Jolla Tablet. :-)
But it would be good to have an OPTION to install aliendalvik and exchange.

virgi26 didn't posted the link to the alpha2-image, but sent me a link over email. so i will also don't post it here.

if someone need it - please PM me or send me an email:
explit at gmail com

lkravovicz

2016-07-13 18:20

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

mal said on irc that the latest image still had uncomfortable bugs, so that's why no public release available.

explit

2016-07-13 18:36

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1509589)

mal said on irc that the latest image still had uncomfortable bugs, so that's why no public release available.

Ok, didn't noticed some bugs yet. Do you know any?

virgi26

2016-07-14 08:43

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1509590)

Ok, didn't noticed some bugs yet. Do you know any?

personally, i didn't encounter any ground breaking bugs. Don't know why it's not publicly available.

Few annoying bugs:
1) some issues with brightness (minimum is just a black screen)
2) if you take a photo in portrait view it is being saved in landscape view

oh, and some third party apps from store are note optimized for fullhd

Bottom line is that after almost a month of using it i didn't have to restart it once. Everything works fast and fluent.

explit

2016-07-14 20:19

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by virgi26 (Post 1509614)

Thanks virgi26!
I also din't noticed any big bugs.

I using FP2 as a testdriver atm, waiting for 2.0.2.xx for the DualSIM-Support and will move completly from my Jolla Phone to FP2 than....

explit

2016-07-16 19:56

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Just found an interesting link:

Comparison between:
Fairphone 2 / Jolla C / Jolla / Samsung Galaxy S3

http://www.devicespecifications.com/...ison/460979ed4

mikecomputing

2016-07-17 11:55

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I start to think maybe I should buy a fairphone even if it still don't have aliendalvik. So is it possible run both android and community SFOS on fairphone II without reflash the whole phone?

explit

2016-07-17 12:19

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I don't think it would run without the reflashing...
But Sailfish with Aliendalvik will definitiv come to FP2. The photos were alredy seen, it is only a question of couple of month....

mikecomputing

2016-07-17 16:15

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1509859)

I don't think it would run without the reflashing...
But Sailfish with Aliendalvik will definitiv come to FP2. The photos were alredy seen, it is only a question of couple of month....

LOL Heard that before, I beleive it when I see it....

explit

2016-07-18 09:50

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

LOL... The HW is to sexy to stay w/o official Sailfish Version. I think, they wait until 2.0.2.xx becomes official, because of Dual-SIM Support....

javispedro

2016-07-18 13:53

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

How long does the battery last on the current alpha? Is it comparable to Jolla 1?

explit

2016-07-18 14:55

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1509979)

How long does the battery last on the current alpha? Is it comparable to Jolla 1?

30% better as Jolla 1

I'm on alpha2. but maybe, thats because no Alien Dalvik

taixzo

2016-07-18 14:56

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1509859)

I don't think it would run without the reflashing...

Does SFOS not work with multirom on FP2?

explit

2016-07-18 20:02

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1509983)

Does SFOS not work with multirom on FP2?

Tell me pls, what multiROM is?

juiceme

2016-07-18 22:16

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1510006)

Tell me pls, what multiROM is?

Boot loader that supports more than one OS image you can select between.

explit

2016-07-19 00:07

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510016)

Boot loader that supports more than one OS image you can select between.

is there alredy something we can use on the FP2?

The alpha1 & alpha2 image is flashed over the working Android installtion.

Ist unclear for me, how i can use MultiROM in this case....

lkravovicz

2016-07-19 07:20

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1509979)

How long does the battery last on the current alpha? Is it comparable to Jolla 1?

I'm recharging the FP2 every 2-3 days on average, with moderate usage at best (very few calls, occasionaly web browsing, photos, e-mail, etc).

Jolla 1 battery clearly lasted longer with similar usage patterns, but the FP2 is so much faster there's no going back.

explit

2016-07-19 07:34

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1510034)

My Jolla battery never lasted longer than FP2

explit

2016-07-19 07:56

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I added aliendalvik Repository from the Jolla C to the FP2.
aliendalvik and all dependencies were installed without any problems.
Android Settings are now in the Settings, but if i start Android Support, it closes after 2 sec.
I think, it need additional tweeking.
Is here somebody, who knows, how to f*ck with aliendalvik ? ;-)

I would give additional info, if needed....

J4ZZ	2016-07-19 17:13

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

What does -verbose say when starting aliendalvik service from terminal?

explit

2016-07-19 21:02

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

When i try to install apkd file i get this:

Code:

apkd-install Aptoide\ \ 7.1.1.4.apk

method return sender=:1.95 -> dest=:1.4525 reply_serial=2

   boolean true

Can you tell me the whole command, which i should try with --verbose Option?

Code:

apkd --verbose

prints nothing :-(

THX

J4ZZ	2016-07-20 07:50

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Basically I wanted to check if aliendalvik is successfully started.
what does

Code:

systemctl status aliendalvik -l

say?

Or more importantly

Code:

systemctl start aliendalvik -l

explit

2016-07-20 20:06

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Code:

 systemctl start aliendalvik -l

[root@localhost nemo]# systemctl status aliendalvik -l

aliendalvik.service - Myriad Alien Dalvik

   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/aliendalvik.service; enabled)

   Active: failed (Result: start-limit) since Wed 2016-07-20 22:04:55 CEST; 3s ago

  Process: 5718 ExecStopPost=/system/script/alien_ui_pid_reporter.sh stop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

  Process: 5707 ExecStopPost=/system/script/alien_notification_cleaner.sh (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

  Process: 5460 ExecStartPost=/system/script/alien_ui_pid_reporter.sh start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

  Process: 5459 ExecStart=/system/script/start_alien.sh (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

  Process: 5456 ExecStartPre=/system/script/alien_start_guard.sh (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

 Main PID: 5459 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)



Jul 20 22:04:55 localhost systemd[1]: aliendalvik.service holdoff time over, scheduling restart.

Jul 20 22:04:55 localhost systemd[1]: aliendalvik.service start request repeated too quickly, refusing to start.

Jul 20 22:04:55 localhost systemd[1]: Unit aliendalvik.service entered failed state.

J4ZZ	2016-07-22 17:31

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I wrote you a pm ;)

mikecomputing

2016-07-30 13:34

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Just bought a Android 7" lenovo tablet. And no I am really sure I will NOT buy fairphone until they have official support for sailfishos. Android already giving me headache.

explit

2016-08-03 19:54

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Using the FP2 as a daily driver for about 1 week now.
All i can say is: WOW!
When you compare it with Jolla 1 it is like you replace a bike with a car :-)

I connected all the Jolla C Repos, Maps, Store, Exchange, XT9 works very well and stable. Alien Dalvik is installed but didn't work (not yet). Need additional tweaking.

FP2 is such a sexy piece of Hardware, it will be definitive the next Sailfish Flagship.
I'm sure Fairphone will releace official Sailfish with Aliendalvik, they wait until the Build became ready and support anything (Dual-SIM, OTA-Updates etc.)
They would get a lot of new customers, when they release it with official Sailfish OS.

We see how much people are ready to pay hunderts of $ / EUR to get an Device with official Sailfish. Doesn't matter, if it is a Jolla Tablet, Jolla C or Intex Aqua Fish.
The Jolla 1 in good condition going through eBay for 100-130 EUR!

For me - there is definitiv no way back to Jolla 1 after Fairphone 2. Missing Android support is something importand, but i can live without it atm. (Have a Jolla Tablet, also)

lkravovicz

2016-08-03 20:00

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1511665)

Using the FP2 as a daily driver for about 1 week now.
All i can say is: WOW!
When you compare it with Jolla 1 it is like you replace a bike with a car :-)

...

For me - there is definitiv no way back to Jolla 1 after Fairphone 2. Missing Android support is something importand, but i can live without it atm. (Have a Jolla Tablet, also)

Yeah, I confirm everything above. Just flashed FP2 OTA to 2.0.2.48 thanks to mal-, and all is mostly good for daily work. But have to admit I also carry the Jolla 1 around for Android functionality, and also a separate dedicated hotspot data plan.

Feathers McGraw

2016-08-03 20:44

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1511667)

Just flashed FP2 OTA to 2.0.2.48

Nice! Can you elaborate please?

lkravovicz

2016-08-03 20:48

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1511668)

Nice! Can you elaborate please?

Hop on #fairphone-sailfish.

You will need to enable a couple of mal-'s personal repos, which you can find from either irclogs of the channel or by asking him.

In general the process follows this model https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Ada...ates_.28OTA.29 but the repo list with `ssu lr` needs to be correct before you run `version --dup`

explit

2016-08-03 21:17

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

alpha2 has a couple of small bugs, so mal- didn't released it (yet) officially.
But of course you can ask him on irc and he will tell you what to do - if you REALLY-REALLY want to test alpha2 Image. You also need to reflash, bacause alpha2 need android gms54 1.36 or newer. afterwards you can flash alpha2 (2.0.1.11) and afterwards, when you are on alpha2, you can ask mal- for the right repositories to update to 2.0.2.48.

mal- is the main FP2-Sailfish developer, so you need to ask him, if you want to test something newer than alpha1 or wait until mal- will release it officialy on the Wiki-Page.

Feathers McGraw

2016-08-03 21:21

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1511670)

the repo list with `ssu lr` needs to be correct before you run `version --dup`

Thanks, looks like that'll keep me busy tomorrow evening!

Could you list your repos please? (zypper lr)

Any idea when a new flashable release will be released?

Any significant changes you've noticed specific to FP2 with the new SFOS version, or "just" the standard things?

EDIT: Thanks explit I'll probably wait until it's released officially, I use it as my main phone and don't fancy completely reflashing more than once. I'm excited now though!

mikecomputing

2016-08-03 21:27

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by explit (Post 1511665)

I connected all the Jolla C Repos, Maps, Store, Exchange, XT9 works very well and stable. Alien Dalvik is installed but didn't work (not yet). Need additional tweaking.

Hmmm are you saying we may actually get unofficial Dalvik working or is it just hope?

Because I start reconsider buy fairphone if that happens. I just need to get bankid working == dalvik desperatly needed.

Just realized the community is "spamming" jolla and fairhphone about this very much(me included) maybe we should get the damn myriad involved too.

I don't get why on earth this has still not happened what is the route cause? Incombability with different linux kernel versions?

explit

2016-08-03 22:23

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1511682)

Well, i'm not a developer. I only said, that i was able to install all for Alien Dalvik needed files on the FP2 from the Jolla C aliendalvik repos.

There were alredy pics leaked in Web showing FP2 with installed android apps.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2JCe-ZHHN...%2BJollaES.jpg

So i think, alien dalvik is possible. But i wouldn't make it run allone.
It needs tweaking. and hacking. FP2 has 3.4.0 Kernel, Jolla Tablet and Jolla C has 3.10 Kernel.

This might be the case, why it doesn't run OOB.

I think, after 2.0.2.xx is coming out for the FP2 by the community - Fairphone will realease an official Version with alien dalvik.. IMHO

If we have some android / alien dalvik Developer / hacker here at tmo. (I think we have :-)) - please help us to get the damn Alien Dalvik to run on the FP2.

I from my side will do anything i can to get it running.

explit

2016-08-03 22:24

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Fairphone 2 is avaiable in Germany with Contract (1&1)

https://mobile.1und1.de/fairphone-2?...&zxuid=1351277

ka9yhd

2016-08-04 01:32

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

I know people has been discussing the Fairphone with Sailfish on it, But I just looked at Fairphone's web site and they are still advertising the Fairphone 2 with Android on it.
So where does one find the Fairphone with Sailfish?
https://www.fairphone.com/

Bundyo

2016-08-04 05:01

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2 is still under development. They officially confirmed that an official supported port is a possibility, including Alien Dalvik. However nothing released yet.

explit

2016-08-04 05:07

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1511693)

AT the moment, you can only buy Fairphone 2 with Android and flash the community edition of Sailfish on it.

You can get it from here:
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Ada...fishOS_for_fp2

ka9yhd

2016-08-04 06:20

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Thank you for the clarification. For some reason I thought Fairphone already offered Sailfish.

Feathers McGraw

2016-08-04 07:23

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1511667)

Yeah, I confirm everything above. Just flashed FP2 OTA to 2.0.2.48 thanks to mal-, and all is mostly good for daily work

I forgot to ask, has the earpiece speaker volume been increased in the new releases? That's the most annoying bug in the 2.0.0.10 release IMO.

explit

2016-08-04 10:27

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1511701)

I forgot to ask, has the earpiece speaker volume been increased in the new releases? That's the most annoying bug in the 2.0.0.10 release IMO.

for me its working fine with and loud under 2.0.2.48

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