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allnameswereout 2009-09-23 13:55

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 332104)
nope, im not joking..and i won't let it be...i want Nokia Czech to fix this and sell the phone with 4 keys... so if you can do anything to help, i will be glad...

about the BT keyboard...will nokia bother to make and sell a special one for the N900?

You will need to perform a small hack to get BlueTooth HID profile working. Nokia sells Nokia Wireless Keyboard SU-8W for quite a while, and it works fine just like any other BlueTooth HID keyboard. You could buy your Nokia N900 elsewhere, for example in UK (GBP is low). Consider to contact Nokia Czech.

Jack6428 2009-09-23 14:09

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 332141)
You will need to perform a small hack to get BlueTooth HID profile working. Nokia sells Nokia Wireless Keyboard SU-8W for quite a while, and it works fine just like any other BlueTooth HID keyboard. You could buy your Nokia N900 elsewhere, for example in UK (GBP is low). Consider to contact Nokia Czech.

i could buy it in the UK, but then the OS wouldn't be localized in Czech and the keyboard wouldn't be czech aswell...i hope people understand what i am trying to accomplish..the fact in Czech the keyboard is QWERTZ and localised is ok, but they could have done it without sacrifcing two arrow keys aswell...i contacted Nokia Czech, but they told me (actually just an operator girl on the infoline) they can start to deal with this when the device starts selling here (October 20th). I don't want to wait a month without doing anything. I even started to complain on Nokia's facebook forum...

about the BT keyboard..will the hack be hard? that keyboard i know, its old, but good enough for me...

allnameswereout 2009-09-23 14:19

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 332155)
i could buy it in the UK, but then the OS wouldn't be localized in Czech and the keyboard wouldn't be czech aswell...i hope people understand what i am trying to accomplish..the fact in Czech the keyboard is QWERTZ and localised is ok, but they could have done it without sacrifcing two arrow keys aswell...i contacted Nokia Czech, but they told me (actually just an operator girl on the infoline) they can start to deal with this when the device starts selling here (October 20th). I don't want to wait a month without doing anything. I even started to complain on Nokia's facebook forum...

about the BT keyboard..will the hack be hard? that keyboard i know, its old, but good enough for me...

Hack will be easy. See here. The support is right there, its just not officially supported by Nokia, and you need to enable it yourself by editting a config file.

I think you will be able to change the device language to Czech either right out of the box or by downloading Czech language support. I surely hope I can change the device language from Dutch to English even though I buy the device in Netherlands. And in the past, that was possible. It is possible with my Nokia E71 too. Just need to download the software for it. So for that I wouldn't worry.

As for the Czech hardware keyboard, judging from the reply you got Nokia will value user feedback after the device is released. So you cannot influence the manufacturing of the Czech hardware keyboard for N900 right now.

I have SU-8W, it worked on N8x0 too. I quite like it because its foldable and portable.

Jack6428 2009-09-23 14:52

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 332162)
Hack will be easy. See here. The support is right there, its just not officially supported by Nokia, and you need to enable it yourself by editting a config file.

I think you will be able to change the device language to Czech either right out of the box or by downloading Czech language support. I surely hope I can change the device language from Dutch to English even though I buy the device in Netherlands. And in the past, that was possible. It is possible with my Nokia E71 too. Just need to download the software for it. So for that I wouldn't worry.

As for the Czech hardware keyboard, judging from the reply you got Nokia will value user feedback after the device is released. So you cannot influence the manufacturing of the Czech hardware keyboard for N900 right now.

I have SU-8W, it worked on N8x0 too. I quite like it because its foldable and portable.

thanks for replying...atleast someone cares lol... about the keybaord, yup, that's the same reason i like it too. It's not big, but good enough and portable. If it worked with N8xx, then it should work with this aswell. I know there is a stand for the phone with the keyboard. I don't have to put the phone into that, right? Since it wouldn't fit in anyway in landscape...I'll have to check wheter Nokia in Czech still sell this thing..

about the other thing... well, i probably could change the language to Czech if i bought it from the UK (although i know that the localization of Maemo 5 to Czech is a last moment decision by Nokia Czech, so who knows? Maybe it will be Czech Republic exclusive?), but then i wouldn't have the czech keys, although i would have all 4 arrow keys...man, this is complicated and dumb...i wanted to get the phone day1, now i will be happy if i get it on Christamas (IF nokia changes the keys)

allnameswereout 2009-09-23 15:23

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
You do not have to use the SU-8W's stand. It is optional. Nokia N900 has its own stand too.

PS: See this thread about hardware keyboards and localisation.

thecursedfly 2009-09-23 16:56

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
anyway, not to be annoying, but this is all OFF topic... ;)

Jack6428 2009-09-23 17:01

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 332205)
You do not have to use the SU-8W's stand. It is optional. Nokia N900 has its own stand too.

PS: See this thread about hardware keyboards and localisation.

great, then im buying that bt keyboard..
now just to solve the hw keyboard and its fine..ive checked that thread, but sadly no czech layout picture..anyway, if i make a new rant thread, will nokia read it, just to let them know?

qole 2009-09-23 18:16

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by asys3 (Post 331985)
Qole. The N800 isn't the solution for the lack of the usb host in the N900!

You could also take a N800 and use a 3G phone instead in some cases.

No - I want one device! Not again a second one for usb host.

And according Wifi-Adhoc. That covers only some usb usecases. And not all.
Not to talk about the time it takes to build up a adhoc network in comparison to plugging in a usb cable...

Well, it certainly is a solution for storage (HDD, DVD, USB key) use cases. And you only have to set up your ad-hoc network once, and you just switch to that network on both devices when you want to copy files.

I only want to carry one device too. And, most of the time, with the N900, you will.

For those occasions when you think you might need to copy information from a colleague's USB key, you buy a Nintendo DS case and in it, you put your N800, SD-to-microSD adapter, USB OTG adapter, usb hub and cables, N900 video-out cable, and 4xAA battery pack.

(EDIT: might as well throw in a BT keyboard and mouse!)

You put this in your "manly bag" and use this equipment to get files off of the external storage device and onto your N900. And since you have it along, you can also use the big N800 screen to watch videos or read a book on the train to work.

--- taunting trash-talk follows - humour alert --

But I'm a hardcore geek. There are some of you out there, I know, who are only poser geeks, who still take their big, heavy laptops everywhere, and who want someone else to make everything easy for them, rather than figuring out a way to make things work on their own. I understand that my solution is probably too complicated and technical for you. I'm sorry that my solution doesn't involve Windows Vista or the iPhone.

But seriously, you need to stop pretending that you need USB host mode on a handheld device, ok? USB host mode on a handheld device is a hardcore geek thing, not something posers should be messing around with. You might get hurt.

hee hee hee! ;) :p

thecursedfly 2009-09-23 18:32

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
qole, don't take it as offensive please, but i don't really see the sense in your last post.. :p

the "take a N8*0 with you" is a solution (for some), but not the one most people in this thread is searching for I think. And I think it's not hard to guess why. ;P

and I don't find it a great idea to go around stereotyping people and "posers" :p

allnameswereout 2009-09-23 18:40

Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 332263)
great, then im buying that bt keyboard..
now just to solve the hw keyboard and its fine..ive checked that thread, but sadly no czech layout picture..anyway, if i make a new rant thread, will nokia read it, just to let them know?

The discussion is offtopic in this thread please use the thread I linked to. I think instead of rant be constructive :) various Nokians read the boards here. Maybe Brainstorm or filing a bug report on Bugzilla will catch their attention, especially if you're constructive.


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