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ZogG 2012-06-30 18:48

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 1229514)
Yesterday, the Council decided to remove Estel from his position as Council Chair. This is due not only to the Community Awards, but to many other actions of his since becoming Chair. He will remain a member of Council, and will continue to serve the community in that capacity.

For me, the primary reason was that he was acting poorly as Council Chair. He didn't represent Council well, and I didn't have confidence in what he was doing and how he related to the community. There were multiple complaints from community members, and I saw personal comments he made against many people, including me. I believe he doesn't have the soft skills necessary to serve as the representative of Council.

Let me also say that this was done with regret. He is a valuable contributor to the community, and fully deserving of his community award. I hope this will be sufficient remediation and that the non-constructive grievances will come to an end. I do not intend to support any actions proposed related to the community awards, such as taking away devices, etc.


Fair enuf, no need to make the poll or votes for that than. Only one thing that disturbing is
to remove Estel from his position as Council Chair. part and He will remain a member of Council

edit
oh you had a head of council, my bad i always thought it was more like "round table" when everyone has the same power, voice.
/edit

and surely it's too late to take device, now i think the device donation thread can help to give to few devs what they deserve.

thank you

nieldk 2012-06-30 18:51

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1229517)
Who is the hand of the king now?

That is to be decided still

benny1967 2012-06-30 19:01

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
I cannot believe that this sorry little thread and its spinoffs have ~300 posts, while those about really important issues have only 80.

Dave999 2012-06-30 19:05

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1229528)
I cannot believe that this sorry little thread and its spinoffs have ~300 posts, while those about really important issues have only 80.

A threads greatness is not decided by number of post but what's in the posts.

gerbick 2012-06-30 19:08

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1229530)
A threads greatness is not decided by number of post but what's in the posts.

In that case, this thread is lacking.

The other thread, some serious discussions are happening that I think people are hesitating to filter in unless it's well thought out. Not the case in this thread - myself included.

That's my take.

Dave999 2012-06-30 19:11

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
I don't understand what you saying there :o

that the other thread isn't a troll thread like this one?

misterc 2012-06-30 21:31

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 1229514)
Yesterday, the Council decided to remove Estel from his position as Council Chair. This is due not only to the Community Awards, but to many other actions of his since becoming Chair. He will remain a member of Council, and will continue to serve the community in that capacity.

For me, the primary reason was that he was acting poorly as Council Chair. He didn't represent Council well, and I didn't have confidence in what he was doing and how he related to the community. There were multiple complaints from community members, and I saw personal comments he made against many people, including me. I believe he doesn't have the soft skills necessary to serve as the representative of Council.

Let me also say that this was done with regret. He is a valuable contributor to the community, and fully deserving of his community award. I hope this will be sufficient remediation and that the non-constructive grievances will come to an end. I do not intend to support any actions proposed related to the community awards, such as taking away devices, etc.

Amen to that :|
i fully support the Council in this decision and feel that all necessary actions were taken.

let's focus on Maemo future now!

misterc 2012-06-30 21:42

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1229525)
That is to be decided still

click on the link currently beneath my posts...
Rob (SD69) has the 2nd highest number of votes and thus becomes head of the Council / Council Chair.
well deserved considering he is certainly the most experienced member of the Council.

may i further suggest that all official communications from Council are only posted by the Council Chair, possibly after consultation?

a post of an other member of the Council is never representative of the Council, unless Rob (Council Chair) can't attend to his function.
in which case Ivan (ivgalvez) assumes the function.

which also means that Rob would have to clearly mark any posts he makes at a personal title.

ideas?

misterc 2012-06-30 21:46

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1229528)
I cannot believe that this sorry little thread and its spinoffs have ~300 posts, while those about really important issues have only 80.

who cares what you believe?

nieldk 2012-06-30 21:48

Re: Community Council Thread - Questions, Solutions and Grievances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1229581)
click on the link currently beneath my posts...
Rob (SD69) has the 2nd highest number of votes and thus becomes head of the Council / Council Chair.
well deserved considering he is certainly the most experienced member of the Council.

may i further suggest that all official communications from Council are only posted by the Council Chair, possibly after consultation?

a post of an other member of the Council is never representative of the Council, unless Rob (Council Chair) can't attend to his function.
in which case Ivan (ivgalvez) assumes the function.

which also means that Rob would have to clearly mark any posts he makes at a personal title.

ideas?

PERSONALLY ;> I think those are good suggestions


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