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bluefoot 2015-03-09 21:34

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1463540)
I was always perplexed why AMD pulled out of mobile.
Intel couldn't compete against ARM on the mobile side, so I don't know why AMD didn't just take its ARM licenses and start churning out SoC's for the HTC, LG, SONY, Motorola etc etc of yesteryear.

We know that Apple with its Ax chips, and Samsung with its Exynos chips, were quite competitive from the get-go.

It left the rest to squander with Texas Imaging or Qualcomm, which were both weak offerings. nVidia also ran fine until they lost their target and started making chips for tablets, and not phones (Tegra3 was quite inefficient). TI had financial problems and pulled out of the market. Qualcomm decided to do its own thing, which wasn't smart until they landed the Krait S4 architecture and doubled it with LTE compatibility.

Seems really like a good guys finish last scenario.
AMD chips = out
Sharp displays = out
Palm hardware = out
MeeGo OS = out

Today a large percentage of phones have Android OS, Qualcomm chips, JDI display and most likely a Samsung badge.

They were never in mobile per se, they only licensed mobile GPU designs through their Imageon (Adreno = Radeon) unit. However, Dirk Meyer sold it off to Qualcomm for an absolute song. Both the value of the deal (tiny $65m) and the strategic decision were heavily questioned at the time. Ultimately it went down as one of the worst tech asset disposals of all time.

I don't see any likelihood of AMD entering that section of the ARM market anytime soon. There's heavy competition and very low nominal margins. Moreover they have no expertise in the field, and need to concentrate on K12, Zen, custom business and desktop and laptop graphics.

Licensing their GPU designs, adapted for mobile, helps them push HSA, which gives them far more leverage vs Intel and NVIDIA.

Apple bought Freescale, and also received massive help from Samsung. They also have an essentially unlimited budget. Samsung have a long history of involvement in telephony, gigantic budgets, and both their own fabs to utilise (AMD don't anymore) and their own screens, RAM and solid state memory. Both use their own product, and AMD have no consumer devices.

Meego was never really in, since Elop ensured that it was stillborn, and the old Nokia guard can be blamed just as much for stalling and under-investing in Maemo, then the largely disastrous decision to merge it with Moblin.

Palm I have little sympathy for. They were a disastrously badly run company that rested on their laurels. WebOS was way ahead of its time, but the hardware was terribly low quality and it was too little too late.

Sharp failed to develop more affordable, mass market mobile products, and more generally had appalling financial mismanagement. The JDI joint venture was massively more prudent and provided more affordable offerings. However, they're still a big player in displays.

Next year will be a watershed year for AMD ... if they get K12 and Zen right, they could find themselves in a better spot than ever before.

Dave999 2015-03-09 21:41

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
guys...apple just released a smartwatch. top version ? $17000

endsormeans 2015-03-09 21:54

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
hahahahaha
just let me re-finance my kidneys ...

just think ...
next years model which will naturally outdate this years..
should only cost a spleen, two lungs and my pituitary gland.

Dave999 2015-03-11 16:19

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1463580)
hahahahaha
just let me re-finance my kidneys ...

just think ...
next years model which will naturally outdate this years..
should only cost a spleen, two lungs and my pituitary gland.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sites/...atch-tease.jpg

Dave999 2015-03-11 17:36

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
whats wrong with you poeple? ;) a few years back you never skipped an opportunity to make fun of apple.

at least its foog to see that you have all risen above the brand wars. Or you have all migrated to Apple :D

jalyst 2015-03-11 17:47

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
It's just you & me left, Dave...

endsormeans 2015-03-11 18:38

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
One of Us ..
One of Us...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElJO9-UVEs

:D
:confused:
actually that was disturbingly cute and creepy at the same time.

Kangal 2015-03-11 23:49

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
^Holy sh it that scrade the poo p outta me. Creepy eyes!!!

Here's my take on smartwatches:

Android Round: Moto 360 < G Watch R < Watch Urbane < Huawei Watch
Android Square: G Watch < Gear Live < Smartwatch 3 < ZenWatch
Apple: Apple Watch
Miscelaneous: Gear Fit < MS Band < Pebble < LG Urbane LTE < Gear S < Pebble Steel Time

- Square watch is more ergonomic, using up as much space as a round one but providing more usable screen area.
- Circle watches are just outright sexy, at least the last two on the list
- Band watches (ie Gear Fit) are smaller, comfortable, and look more modern/futuristic

I don't think watches really compete with watches from other groups. But if there is a "killer watch" it will probably be the first one to offer (FitBit-like) fitness, GPS, stylish, fast charging, wireless charging and at least 2 days battery life.

Kangal 2015-04-14 10:22

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
Winter is coming....
Na-na NA NA nah-naa ... .... .....


Who's into GoT...??
It's the latest and greatest, and deserves a spot in this thread.

juiceme 2015-04-14 10:48

Re: Latest And Greatest!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1467134)
Winter is coming....
Na-na NA NA nah-naa ... .... .....


Who's into GoT...??
It's the latest and greatest, and deserves a spot in this thread.

What, have you got some inside info?
Has big M finally released his latest treasure?


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