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xman 2019-04-25 18:19
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1556345)
The difference to the Neo900 is, there it was always clear, that mainline compatibility was an essential target. ...
Yeah I hear yah and mostly agree. However I don't think mainline was the original intent of neo900, it was my understanding that it was only the hardware that is compatible with Maemo 5. The mainline was a possibly once the maemo-leste project got footing.

But splitting hairs at this point :D

x

nh1402 2019-04-25 18:19
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasAH (Post 1556365)
Really...? Please share with us which phone you are using now, that doesn't have closed/proprietary drivers for (at least) the modem?
iirc even the raspberry pi isn't fully open.

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-04-25 19:24
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I'm starting to rethink my preorder, thinking of canceling it and waiting a few months until the teething issues have been ironed out.

That and my N900 still works fine, it's not like I absolutely need a new phone.

mscion 2019-04-25 19:33
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1556355)
I guess I know the definitive timeline (valid not only for the Pro1 but all kind of unforeseen-things-can-happen-and-a-definite-date-is-just-speculation endeavours):
It will be ready when it is ready!
Excellent point! Take your time and hurry up!

peterleinchen 2019-04-25 20:07
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasmachinemann-NL (Post 1556382)
...

That and my N900 still works fine, it's not like I absolutely need a new phone.
I am on the other side: my 5th N900 is already dying on me with the same old 'all telephony functions disabled' BS! :sad:

Would have a last backup but I do not see the future ...

BUT what is the future?
Is it the Pro1 with *Android* or SFOS (or Leste)
Is it Xperia XA2 with SFOS?
Is it Gemini PDA?

I do not know.
Keeping my fun device with JollaC.
But I need now a working unit, I have here:
N900 (best, but too slow,old,small screen)
N9
N950(not really an option)
Jolla 1 (hmm)
Jolla C
XA2Plus (''new'' HW, but SFOS/android not fully working, too bulky)
Gemini PDA (way too bulky, Debian and ofono?)

I really do not know ...
(sorry for noise, offtopic?)

catbus 2019-04-26 17:44
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Latest info...:

https://us19.campaign-archive.com/?u...&id=2c8c31cee1

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British 2019-04-26 17:51
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Yep, in a nutshell: there's stuff about the new screen (as Chen mentioned here), some other stuff about the homescreen being tweaked (but since it's about Android, I don't care), some (good ?) work being done on SFOS (yay !), and the german going crazy because they want a QWERTZ keyboard (hell, I'm french and I'm perfectly fine with QWERTY...).

gtmaster303 2019-04-26 18:00
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1556416)
PLEASE please please tell me that back cover is rubberized or a soft touch finish
With phone dimensions, this thing will need all the grip it can get

mosen 2019-04-26 18:20
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Later latest info

https://twitter.com/chenliangchen/st...19791067635714

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5GBI4_WwAIYdLb.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5GBHqOWkAEJcnI.jpg

kinggo 2019-04-26 18:31
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1556418)
PLEASE please please tell me that back cover is rubberized or a soft touch finish
With phone dimensions, this thing will need all the grip it can get
just pick something......... https://www.esedirect.co.uk/s-317-an...pes-paint.aspx
At least it's not glass on the back so it can't be THAT slippery. I never used any kind of those phone condoms but with XZ2 that is a MUST HAVE. :mad:

xman 2019-04-26 19:22
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
gtmaster303, rubber has alway in my experience ended up as a stick nasty flaky issue down the road. So I happy there is no rubber built into the units.

You are of course welcome to add the many stick type of cover on the back. Which is what I did on my n900 back. Which help a lot.

x

gtmaster303 2019-04-26 21:35
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xman (Post 1556423)
gtmaster303, rubber has alway in my experience ended up as a stick nasty flaky issue down the road. So I happy there is no rubber built into the units.

You are of course welcome to add the many stick type of cover on the back. Which is what I did on my n900 back. Which help a lot.

x
It doesn't have to be rubber. Soft touch finishes are actually very durable and feel great to hold. Ever held a Nexus One or T-Mobile G-2? Perfect blend of aluminum and grip. Galaxy relay was also very grippy
I stress the importance of grip here because device dimensions. I don't think adding a case is practical because it will also add bulk. Extra grip can ergonomically make a device feel smaller than it is

mosen 2019-04-27 09:58
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by British (Post 1556417)
the german going crazy because they want a QWERTZ keyboard (hell, I'm french and I'm perfectly fine with QWERTY...).
I was not asking for qwertz in the beginning but what has developed on twitter and in fx forum is pure "standard-loving" awesomeness :)

Chen posted the final draft some minutes ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5JosZ-XoAAt3S_.jpg

santeira 2019-04-27 11:54
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1556442)
I was not asking for qwertz in the beginning but what has developed on twitter and in fx forum is pure "standard-loving" awesomeness :)

Chen posted the final draft some minutes ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5JosZ-XoAAt3S_.jpg

so, it's almost sure that qwertz layout will come/be available?

mosen 2019-04-27 12:10
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by santeira (Post 1556448)
so, it's almost sure that qwertz layout will come/be available?
What i gather from chens posts is that qwertz users where loud enough to make fxtec think qwerz layout is viable as a very good service to a reasonable amount of users.
From that i think the final decision will be made after fxtec gave an option to change your preorder to qwertz and look at the actual numbers?

Oh, did i mention they changed at least my preorder to include the MotoMod voucher i submitted via their announced form some weeks ago?

marmistrz 2019-04-28 16:01
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Is the launcher going to be open-source, so that we can have it on the LineageOS port?

HtheB 2019-04-30 13:44
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Soon....!!!

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-04-30 14:43
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556558)
Soon....!!!
2 months, can't wait!

mscion 2019-04-30 20:20
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasmachinemann-NL (Post 1556564)
2 months, can't wait!
How do you know it is 2 months? That seems too soon!

catbus 2019-04-30 20:50
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1556577)
How do you know it is 2 months? That seems too soon!
It is enough time to change underpants...

And Yes. It is shortly here... I can feel... #3 ;)

mscion 2019-04-30 21:39
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1556578)
It is enough time to change underpants...

And Yes. It is shortly here... I can feel... #3 ;)
Ha ha ha! Excellent!

Kabouik 2019-04-30 23:32
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Fxtec did mention mid-July on Twitter, but things can still change and I won't be mad if delays happen.

HtheB 2019-05-01 06:57
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
2 Attachment(s)
We got a leak...
Who didn't close the tap correctly again!? :D

Btw, that hot new screen..! <3

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-05-01 09:10
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556581)
We got a leak...
Who didn't close the tap correctly again!? :D

Btw, that hot new screen..! <3
Place your bets everyone, what will release first?
  • AMD Zen 2
  • Navi
  • The Pro1

acrux 2019-05-01 12:26
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1556488)
Is the launcher going to be open-source, so that we can have it on the LineageOS port?
Hope that the LineageOS port would be ready since the beginning so that I have to boot Android (if needed at all) only once to get the system ready for LineageOS flashing. Like I did with my Nexus 6 (cyanogenmode at that time)...

gtmaster303 2019-05-01 13:19
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556581)
We got a leak...
Who didn't close the tap correctly again!? :D

Btw, that hot new screen..! <3
How can you tell it's the new screen?
Phone looks hot though

gtmaster303 2019-05-01 13:21
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1556580)
but things can still change and I won't be mad if delays happen.
I don't share the same sentiment

HtheB 2019-05-01 13:38
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1556588)
How can you tell it's the new screen?
Phone looks hot though
1: Screen is less curvy.
2: Seems like you've missed this post

gtmaster303 2019-05-01 16:12
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I wonder if the phone will be in 2 colors. I've seen the black one mostly, but a while back I did see a silver one too

nh1402 2019-05-01 18:33
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1556586)
Hope that the LineageOS port would be ready since the beginning so that I have to boot Android (if needed at all) only once to get the system ready for LineageOS flashing. Like I did with my Nexus 6 (cyanogenmode at that time)...
Lineage is also Android...

xman 2019-05-01 19:58
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1556588)
How can you tell it's the new screen?
Phone looks hot though
It doesn't curve down the side as much it seems. Which for me mean possibly less screen cracks when dropped.

Old is top new is bottom of the image.

marmistrz 2019-05-03 11:27
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Is there any F(x)tec profile on mastodon/fediverse? I'm not using twitter and I don't plan to start.

HtheB 2019-05-03 14:49
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1556624)
Is there any F(x)tec profile on mastodon/fediverse? I'm not using twitter and I don't plan to start.
You don't need to use one to be able to read the tweets.

marmistrz 2019-05-03 16:09
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556629)
You don't need to use one to be able to read the tweets.
Yes, but I can't subscribe.

robthebold 2019-05-03 17:46
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556629)
You don't need to use one to be able to read the tweets.
Not if, like me, you've blocked all access to social media in /etc/hosts. Being in the US, my health just can't tolerate exposure to most of it.

But if anyone would like to endure it and occasionally quote some of the updates here, I would be most grateful and definitely click the "Thanks" button. Admittedly, it's a rather small reward for something I could do for myself if weren't so hard-headed about this new-fangled aspect of the internet ;) . . .

robthebold 2019-05-03 18:21
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xman (Post 1556597)
It doesn't curve down the side as much it seems. Which for me mean possibly less screen cracks when dropped.
I wonder if there's any possibility of an N900-style OtterBox case with a superbezel around the sliding screen. That saved my beloved device more than once. (Thinking about this a lot lately thanks to XperiaX disaster :( )

xman 2019-05-03 21:06
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1556634)
Not if, like me, you've blocked all access to social media in /etc/hosts. Being in the US, my health just can't tolerate exposure to most of it.

But if anyone would like to endure it and occasionally quote some of the updates here, I would be most grateful and definitely click the "Thanks" button. Admittedly, it's a rather small reward for something I could do for myself if weren't so hard-headed about this new-fangled aspect of the internet ;) . . .
https://twitter.com/chenliangchen/st...81336674197504

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...escending=true

Not sure if you can see this :D

x

nh1402 2019-05-04 11:01
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Not sure what screen protectors would fit this phone, possibly s8? I'm not sure after the change in curve for the display, also not sure if anything happened with that London event that was briefly mentioned once.

HtheB 2019-05-04 12:38
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nh1402 (Post 1556644)
Not sure what screen protectors would fit this phone, possibly s8? I'm not sure after the change in curve for the display
What were you thinking before the change then...? :confused:

nh1402 2019-05-04 13:20
Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1556646)
What were you thinking before the change then...? :confused:
The s8... Now because of the screen change I don't think it would fit, or fit more, I can't remember what the edge was like in the s8, but I think it was like the previous display.

EDIT: we have a new updatehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5uO1GtW4AAqlst.jpg the keyboard buttons are slightly more curved (on the left)


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